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RE: Class of 2023+ - Hoops9092 - 11-15-2022

ESPN reports she's headed to USC


RE: Class of 2023+ - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

Shades of Kiki Rice.  I had a bad feelings and for whatever reason, don't think we will get Hidalgo either.

BC


RE: Class of 2023+ - jonnyss - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 11:53 AM)TheWildJacko Wrote:  USC (So. Cal):

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1592591467247472641?s=61&t=Zz7Sxb9rIf-wCRRk44Sc9Q

thanks!

and oops!


RE: Class of 2023+ - Hoops9092 - 11-15-2022

I think a lot of people suspected she'd stay home. Highest recruit for USC, ever? At least since Jacki Gemelos in 2006.


RE: Class of 2023+ - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

Kind of crappy that ESPN leaked the announcement.  This was supposed to be her time.

BC


TheWildJacko - TheWildJacko - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 11:56 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  Kind of crappy that ESPN leaked the announcement.  This was supposed to be her time.

BC

Agreed! They’re now airing it tape-delayed as if it were live. Or else it is live and they leaked it beforehand. Either way, not great.


RE: Class of 2023+ - 2006alum - 11-15-2022

This will be a great test for whether a generational player can overcome mediocre coaching, a non-existent fanbase, and navigating a move to a new conference with a ton of highly undesirable and uninteresting away games. If she can overcome all that and turn USC into a top team, God bless her...


RE: Class of 2023+ - Card10Fan - 11-15-2022

Congrats to her and USC. I kinda just had that feeling. Can’t fault a kid for wanting to stay home. Much rather USC than South Carolina. I don’t have a good feeling about Hidalgo either.


RE: Class of 2023+ - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

I think it was live, but ESPN leaked it because they were delayed.

Anyway, bummed about her decision, but good luck to her.  

BC

(11-15-2022, 11:57 AM)2006alum Wrote:  This will be a great test for whether a generational player can overcome mediocre coaching, a non-existent fanbase, and navigating a move to a new conference with a ton of highly undesirable and uninteresting away games. If she can overcome all that and turn USC into a top team, God bless her...

You mean like the five star players who commit to the Stanford men's basketball team (or, yes, the football team, though we've had fewer whales there, recently)?

BC


RE: Class of 2023+ - TheWildJacko - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 11:59 AM)Card10Fan Wrote:  Congrats to her and USC. I kinda just had that feeling. Can’t fault a kid for wanting to stay home. Much rather USC than South Carolina. I don’t have a good feeling about Hidalgo either.

Yeah, me either. Good thing Lepolo is already shaping up to be a star (and I think Nivar too)!


RE: Class of 2023+ - joemontes - 11-15-2022

Well, if it's any consolation for me, at least I can see her play live at USC
a few miles away from home here in LA....well, NOT REALLY!


RE: Class of 2023+ - Hoops9092 - 11-15-2022

Before she and her family moved up to Chatsworth so Juju can attend the ritzy Sierra Canyon, let's not forget Juju lived in South Central LA, just an exit away from the USC campus. So I think this is a story of a kid truly staying home and perhaps explains her connection to SC over UCLA (but would love the details as to why the Bruins couldn't snag her, because man would that have been something).


RE: Class of 2023+ - ca245 - 11-15-2022

If she wanted to stay close to home, I am surprised she didn't give more consideration to UCLA. For all the criticism of Cori Close's in-game coaching, she is a very good recruiter. If she had gone to UCLA, they'd have a loaded roster including Kiki Rice and her. (I don't think she and Kiki play the same position, so there wouldn't be a positional conflict?)


RE: Class of 2023+ - Hoops9092 - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 12:11 PM)ca245 Wrote:  If she wanted to stay close to home, I am surprised she didn't give more consideration to UCLA. For all the criticism of Cori Close's in-game coaching, she is a very good recruiter. If she had gone to UCLA, they'd have a loaded roster including Kiki Rice and her. (I don't think she and Kiki play the same position, so there wouldn't be a positional conflict?)

Yeah I share the same sentiment. I bet it kills Cori to see Juju stay home ultimately and elect for USC.


RE: Class of 2023+ - VisitingCock - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 12:22 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 12:11 PM)ca245 Wrote:  If she wanted to stay close to home, I am surprised she didn't give more consideration to UCLA. For all the criticism of Cori Close's in-game coaching, she is a very good recruiter. If she had gone to UCLA, they'd have a loaded roster including Kiki Rice and her. (I don't think she and Kiki play the same position, so there wouldn't be a positional conflict?)

Yeah I share the same sentiment. I bet it kills Cori to see Juju stay home ultimately and elect for USC.

She did not elect "USC." She elected Southern Cal  (Insert Grin)/

Good luck on Hidalgo! We're done. See you in one week.


RE: Class of 2023+ - joemontes - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 10:30 AM)joemontes Wrote:  Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?

South Carolina:
#2 (2021)   -  Raven JOHNSON  5'8  PG
#4 (2021)   -  Sanya FEAGIN  6'3  PF
#5 (2020)   -  Kamilla CARDOSO  6'7  C  (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) -  Ashlyn WATKINS  6'3  C
#13 (2023) -  Milaysia FULWILEY  5'6  PG
#14 (2021) -  Aubryanna HALL  6'0  SF
#17 (2023) -  Chloe KITTS  6'2  PF
#18 (2022) -  Talaysia COOPER  6'0  SG/PG
#25 (2023) -  Tessa JOHNSON  5'10  SG
#40 (2023) -  Sahnya JAH  6'1  SF


Stanford:
#1   (2022) -  Lauren BETTS  6'7  C
#3   (2020) -  Cameron BRINK  6'4  PF
#10 (2023) -  Courtney OGDEN  6'1  SF
#11 (2021) -  Brooke DEMETRE  6'3  SF
#19 (2021) -  Okikiola IRAFEN  6'3  PF
#20 (2022) -  Indya NIVAR  5'10  SG/PG
#37 (2023) -  Sunaja AGARA  6'2  PF
#39 (2023) -  Chloe CLARDY  5'9  SG
#71 (2022) -  Talana LEPOLO  5'7  PG
#78 (2021) -  Jzaniya HARRIEL  5'10  PG


USC:
#8   (2022) -  Aaliyah GAYLES  5'9  SG
#11 (2018) -  Kadi SISSOKO  6'2  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) -  Clarice OKUNWAFO  6'6  C
#27 (2021) -  Rhaya MARSHALL  6'4  PF
#29 (2021) -  Taylor BIGBY  6'1  SG  (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) -  Malia SAMUELS  5'6  PG
#63 (2019) -  Koi LOVE  6'0  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) -  Kayla WILLIAMS  5'7  PG  (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)


Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season 
Top 5 teams next season.  However, if one of them gets WATKINS,  
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).

On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season.  However, with WATKINS, they probably become 
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion 
to a long stagnant program.
So, responding to my own question, with 2023 #1 overall 6'1 Judea WATKINS 
committing to USC, she will spearhead the following collection of
also-ranked players at USC next season:

USC:
#1   (2023) -  Judea WATKINS  6'1  SF/SG
#8   (2022) -  Aaliyah GAYLES  5'9  SG
#11 (2018) -  Kadi SISSOKO  6'2  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) -  Clarice OKUNWAFO  6'6  C
#27 (2021) -  Rhaya MARSHALL  6'4  PF
#29 (2021) -  Taylor BIGBY  6'1  SG  (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) -  Malia SAMUELS  5'6  PG
#63 (2019) -  Koi LOVE  6'0  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) -  Kayla WILLIAMS  5'7  PG  (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)

At least, Stanford gets to compete against USC and WATKINS twice next season.
After that, off they go to the Big 10....pretty much and sadly, off to oblivion...


RE: Class of 2023+ - BosCard - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 12:22 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 12:11 PM)ca245 Wrote:  If she wanted to stay close to home, I am surprised she didn't give more consideration to UCLA. For all the criticism of Cori Close's in-game coaching, she is a very good recruiter. If she had gone to UCLA, they'd have a loaded roster including Kiki Rice and her. (I don't think she and Kiki play the same position, so there wouldn't be a positional conflict?)

Yeah I share the same sentiment. I bet it kills Cori to see Juju stay home ultimately and elect for USC.

I don’t think Rice and Watkins would have wanted to play together.  They are both big guards who want the ball in their hands at the end of games.  And they both clearly want to be the #1 star of their respective programs.  Stanford players tend to be more team first because you aren’t going to get a ton of minutes in blowout games to pad your stats.  But you can still be a brobdingnagian star as Haley Jones has proven.


RE: Class of 2023+ - WBB fan - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 12:29 PM)joemontes Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 10:30 AM)joemontes Wrote:  Which assembly of top ranked players will she spearhead next season?

South Carolina:
#2 (2021)   -  Raven JOHNSON  5'8  PG
#4 (2021)   -  Sanya FEAGIN  6'3  PF
#5 (2020)   -  Kamilla CARDOSO  6'7  C  (2021 transfer from Syracuse)
#12 (2022) -  Ashlyn WATKINS  6'3  C
#13 (2023) -  Milaysia FULWILEY  5'6  PG
#14 (2021) -  Aubryanna HALL  6'0  SF
#17 (2023) -  Chloe KITTS  6'2  PF
#18 (2022) -  Talaysia COOPER  6'0  SG/PG
#25 (2023) -  Tessa JOHNSON  5'10  SG
#40 (2023) -  Sahnya JAH  6'1  SF


Stanford:
#1   (2022) -  Lauren BETTS  6'7  C
#3   (2020) -  Cameron BRINK  6'4  PF
#10 (2023) -  Courtney OGDEN  6'1  SF
#11 (2021) -  Brooke DEMETRE  6'3  SF
#19 (2021) -  Okikiola IRAFEN  6'3  PF
#20 (2022) -  Indya NIVAR  5'10  SG/PG
#37 (2023) -  Sunaja AGARA  6'2  PF
#39 (2023) -  Chloe CLARDY  5'9  SG
#71 (2022) -  Talana LEPOLO  5'7  PG
#78 (2021) -  Jzaniya HARRIEL  5'10  PG


USC:
#8   (2022) -  Aaliyah GAYLES  5'9  SG
#11 (2018) -  Kadi SISSOKO  6'2  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) -  Clarice OKUNWAFO  6'6  C
#27 (2021) -  Rhaya MARSHALL  6'4  PF
#29 (2021) -  Taylor BIGBY  6'1  SG  (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) -  Malia SAMUELS  5'6  PG
#63 (2019) -  Koi LOVE  6'0  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) -  Kayla WILLIAMS  5'7  PG  (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)


Analysis:
Even without WATKINS, both South Carolina and Stanford will be pre-season 
Top 5 teams next season.  However, if one of them gets WATKINS,  
that team will easily be the pre-season Top favorite (along with UConn).

On the other hand, USC without WATKINS won't even be a Top 25 team
next season.  However, with WATKINS, they probably become 
a Top 15 team next season - definitely a boost of immense proportion 
to a long stagnant program.
So, responding to my own question, with 2023 #1 overall 6'1 Judea WATKINS 
committing to USC, she will spearhead the following collection of
also-ranked players at USC next season:

USC:
#1   (2023) -  Judea WATKINS  6'1  SF/SG
#8   (2022) -  Aaliyah GAYLES  5'9  SG
#11 (2018) -  Kadi SISSOKO  6'2  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Minnesota/Syracuse)
#21 (2021) -  Clarice OKUNWAFO  6'6  C
#27 (2021) -  Rhaya MARSHALL  6'4  PF
#29 (2021) -  Taylor BIGBY  6'1  SG  (2022 transfer from Oregon)
#49 (2023) -  Malia SAMUELS  5'6  PG
#63 (2019) -  Koi LOVE  6'0  SF/PF  (2022 transfer from Arizona/Vanderbilt)
#72 (2019) -  Kayla WILLIAMS  5'7  PG  (2022 transfer from UC Irvine)

At least, Stanford gets to compete against USC and WATKINS twice next season.
After that, off they go to the Big 10....pretty much and sadly, off to oblivion...

? Next season twice? I thought they and UCLA were gone after 2022-13

At any rate, wish we could have her


RE: Class of 2023+ - BostonCard - 11-15-2022

Rice is the third leading scorer for UCLA (11 ppg) behind Osborne and Bessoir and is the team leader in assists with 17 (34% of all of UCLA's assists), and has more assists than field goals.  I don't see any evidence that, at least to date, Rice is going to be a ball hog.  She might want to have the ball in her hands at the end of the game, but I could have seen her using it to set up Watkins for a play.

Given her comments when she committed about being the one to paving the way at UCLA (presumably to a championship), having a #1 wing along with her in the backcourt would have helped to get her there.

BC


RE: Class of 2023+ - jk1926 - 11-15-2022

(11-15-2022, 12:46 PM)WBB fan Wrote:  
(11-15-2022, 12:29 PM)joemontes Wrote:  At least, Stanford gets to compete against USC and WATKINS twice next season.
After that, off they go to the Big 10....pretty much and sadly, off to oblivion...

? Next season twice? I thought they and UCLA were gone after 2022-13

At any rate, wish we could have her

USC and UCLA, barring the UC Regents taking adverse action on UCLA's move, join the Big Ten conference 1 August 2024 after the current Pac-12 media agreement expires.  So the teams will play in the Pac-12 for the 23/24 season.