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RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-23-2023
(01-23-2023, 12:52 PM)gailtate Wrote: Niners have the edge in all 3 phases + coaching.
Solid defense.
Liquid offense.
Gaseous special teams.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BostonCard - 01-23-2023
(01-23-2023, 11:50 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: Playoff records of the starting QBs in the 2022 season NFC CG
Brock Purdy: 2-0
Jalen Hurts: 1-1
I'll take "Small Sample Sizes" for 100, Alex.
BC
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - lex24 - 01-23-2023
(01-23-2023, 12:24 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Regarding Mahommes and the ankle:
From SI:
"Additionally, the Chiefs coach noted that this ankle injury isn’t nearly as bad as the one Mahomes suffered in 2019. The quarterback didn’t miss any games after sustaining the injury that season, which could mean it’s promising for him to play on Sunday."
Regarding 2019 from ABC: "Mahomes injured his ankle in Week 1 of the 2019 season, also against the Jaguars, and didn't miss any time, throwing seven touchdowns and averaging 409 passing yards while leading the Chiefs to victories the next two games, according to ESPN Stats & Information research."
While it's too soon to tell, Mahomes has been down this road before (and just for the record, I'm neither Chris Robinson nor Peter Bergman).
But did you sleep at a Holiday Inn?
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-23-2023
(01-23-2023, 08:21 PM)lex24 Wrote:(01-23-2023, 12:24 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Regarding Mahommes and the ankle:
From SI:
"Additionally, the Chiefs coach noted that this ankle injury isn’t nearly as bad as the one Mahomes suffered in 2019. The quarterback didn’t miss any games after sustaining the injury that season, which could mean it’s promising for him to play on Sunday."
Regarding 2019 from ABC: "Mahomes injured his ankle in Week 1 of the 2019 season, also against the Jaguars, and didn't miss any time, throwing seven touchdowns and averaging 409 passing yards while leading the Chiefs to victories the next two games, according to ESPN Stats & Information research."
While it's too soon to tell, Mahomes has been down this road before (and just for the record, I'm neither Chris Robinson nor Peter Bergman).
But did you sleep at a Holiday Inn?
Geez Lex, it's "but I slept in a Holiday Inn Express" . . . .
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - OutsiderFan - 01-24-2023
At least one NFL coach who's team said Purdy was off their draft board, now says he would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.
https://theathletic.com/4120213/2023/01/24/brock-purdy-49ers-nfl-draft-scouting-report/
If you don't subscribe to TA or otherwise don't want a summary, here's mine.
This team didn't believe what Purdy did in college could translate to the NFL level based on his combine measurables. It didn't believe he was mobile enough based on his 40 time. It didn't believe he was tall enough to see the field and avoid having his passes batted down. It thought his hands were too small to avoid being a fumble risk.
Facts:
- Purdy had a top 10-second 40 split time at combine (this team didn't pay attention to such a detail that suggests his legs are an asset)
- Purdy has had very few balls batted down (meaning his 6ft and change height is not a liability for him)
- Purdy has no fumbles in the the NFL so far (meaning his smaller hand size has not been a liability)
Purdy does have exceptional ability to translate play concepts from white board to field, see things clearly, move defenders with his eyes, make decisions quickly, and is fully capable of making every throw he needs to make.
To me, these latter traits are more important than the physical ones, and probably more rare to possess.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - French Rage - 01-24-2023
Ah but can he throw 80 yds from his knees?!
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-24-2023
Ruh-roh. Omenihu arrested on charge of misdemeanor domestic violence.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-de-charles-omenihu-arrested-on-charge-of-misdemeanor-domestic-violence
What do the Niners do? What should they do? First, gather the facts of course, but I don't see how he can play on Sunday.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 01-24-2023
(01-24-2023, 02:10 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Ruh-roh. Omenihu arrested on charge of misdemeanor domestic violence.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-de-charles-omenihu-arrested-on-charge-of-misdemeanor-domestic-violence
What do the Niners do? What should they do? First, gather the facts of course, but I don't see how he can play on Sunday.
I'm not an expert, but the article confused me. It cites assault, but doesn't cite battery. I believe misdemeanor domestic violence without a charge of battery doesn't involve actual violence, but threats of violence. There doesn't appear to be a charge of battery, and yet the article says she was thrown to the ground. So I'm sure there's more information to come later.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - AlbanyCardinal - 01-25-2023
According to several articles I've read, he'll be available to play. (Here's one.) Shanahan's on the record as saying: "We’ve looked into it the last 48 hours, not only himself but other people. We don’t feel we should kick him off our team at this time."
(01-24-2023, 02:10 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Ruh-roh. Omenihu arrested on charge of misdemeanor domestic violence.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-de-charles-omenihu-arrested-on-charge-of-misdemeanor-domestic-violence
What do the Niners do? What should they do? First, gather the facts of course, but I don't see how he can play on Sunday.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-25-2023
(01-25-2023, 06:06 PM)AlbanyCardinal Wrote: According to several articles I've read, he'll be available to play. (Here's one.) Shanahan's on the record as saying: "We’ve looked into it the last 48 hours, not only himself but other people. We don’t feel we should kick him off our team at this time."
(01-24-2023, 02:10 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Ruh-roh. Omenihu arrested on charge of misdemeanor domestic violence.
https://www.nfl.com/news/niners-de-charles-omenihu-arrested-on-charge-of-misdemeanor-domestic-violence
What do the Niners do? What should they do? First, gather the facts of course, but I don't see how he can play on Sunday.
"We don’t feel we should kick him off our team at this time." Seriously?
Kicking off the team is one thing, suspending is clearly another. I'm somewhat surprised by the response, or lack of one. . . . .
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 01-25-2023
Apropos of nothing, did Trevor Bauer ever find another employer?
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - OutsiderFan - 01-26-2023
(01-25-2023, 09:34 PM)Mick Wrote: Apropos of nothing, did Trevor Bauer ever find another employer?
PLEASE keep this thread AT LEAST all about NFL, if not Niners specifically....
Last week there was a lot of talk about the Niners having a big advantage over Cowboys in the rest and preparation department. I don't know if that had a decisive impact on the Niners winning, but I do think the third road game in three weeks - irrespective of the 2 day rest deficit - showed up in the second half.
Anyway, has anyone heard or read anyone talking about Niners having a preparation disadvantage in light of the fact the Eagles played Saturday, Niners played Sunday, and the Niners have a 5 hour flight the Eagles don't have to make? Basically, the Eagles get one more day of rest and one more day of practice, as they can practice Friday while the Niners will be traveling that day instead.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - lex24 - 01-26-2023
(01-26-2023, 06:42 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(01-25-2023, 09:34 PM)Mick Wrote: Apropos of nothing, did Trevor Bauer ever find another employer?
PLEASE keep this thread AT LEAST all about NFL, if not Niners specifically....
Last week there was a lot of talk about the Niners having a big advantage over Cowboys in the rest and preparation department. I don't know if that had a decisive impact on the Niners winning, but I do think the third road game in three weeks - irrespective of the 2 day rest deficit - showed up in the second half.
Anyway, has anyone heard or read anyone talking about Niners having a preparation disadvantage in light of the fact the Eagles played Saturday, Niners played Sunday, and the Niners have a 5 hour flight the Eagles don't have to make? Basically, the Eagles get one more day of rest and one more day of practice, as they can practice Friday while the Niners will be traveling that day instead.
The Monday Night game led to the disadvantage talk. Justifiably. NFL should dump that. This is standard playoffs. Nothing new. Sure Philly has a little edge there. That’s why it’s good to have one seed.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-26-2023
(01-26-2023, 06:42 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(01-25-2023, 09:34 PM)Mick Wrote: Apropos of nothing, did Trevor Bauer ever find another employer?
PLEASE keep this thread AT LEAST all about NFL, if not Niners specifically....
Umm, it was related specifically to the Niners. Trevor Bauer domestic abuser (accused, suspended, but not charged). Charles Omenihu domestic abuser (accused, arrested, but not charged or suspended, yet).
Trevor Bauer will not play for the Dodgers, his employer of record when the accusations came to light, ever again, and has yet to find someone to pay for his services. Charle Omenihu apparently will play for the Niners on Sunday. Certainly makes some ponder about the differing approaches, but apparently not everyone sees a comparison.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BobK - 01-26-2023
I don’t see the comparison.
That said if me I’d suspend Omenihu pending the investigation
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - Mick - 01-26-2023
What's odd to me is that the Eagles are only a two point favorite. Given the logistics and timing and the matchup challenges, I would have figured more. And Sunday will be the first time since before the 49er winning streak that the Niners weren't favored.
The Niners have a challenge facing mobile, running quarterbacks. Their success rate against scrambling quarterbacks is only 26th in the league. Hope they're game planning for a mobile Jalen Hurts. Or possibly Hurts is still suffering from his ankle injury.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - lex24 - 01-26-2023
(01-26-2023, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: What's odd to me is that the Eagles are only a two point favorite. Given the logistics and timing and the matchup challenges, I would have figured more. And Sunday will be the first time since before the 49er winning streak that the Niners weren't favored.
The Niners have a challenge facing mobile, running quarterbacks. Their success rate against scrambling quarterbacks is only 26th in the league. Hope they're game planning for a mobile Jalen Hurts. Or possibly Hurts is still suffering from his ankle injury.
They certainly are preparing for Hurts. Problem is, it’s hard to account for a running QB.
I’m also a bit surprised by the spread. That’s essentially an even spread with Eagles getting home field bump. I figured it would be 4-5.
Not a betting man. But I’d take the Eagles and lay the 2 1/2.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - OutsiderFan - 01-26-2023
Just because the Niners have a poor record against running QBs, it doesn't mean that makes them lose games as a result.
As you guys know by now, my favorite stat to predict winners and losers of football games is rush differential. The Niners had that edge on Cowboys. They also have it on the Eagles (by a wider margin than they did Cowboys).
For all the talk of how great the Eagles are at running the ball, the fact is the Niners and Eagles have both averaged 4.7 YPC this season. But, while the Niners have allowed 3.4 YPC to lead the NFL (tied with Tennessee) for fewest, the Eagles are giving up 4.7 YPC. IOW, as a team the Eagles have a 0 rush yards per carry differential. The Niners have a +1.3 per carry differential over their opponents. And though the Eagles averaged a whopping 6.1 YPC against the Giants in their first playoff game, they gave up an equally whopping 5.9 YPC. The difference was the Giants only ran it 20 times to the Eagles' 44.
The team that gave the Niners the most trouble against the run this year was the Falcons, a team with a running QB in Mariota. They ran 40 times for 168 and the Niners only 16 for 50 yards. Of course, the Niners were missing 9 starters in that game and it was pre-McCaffrey and Purdy, which makes a difference because they only scored 14 and couldn't sustain drives at all because they turned the ball over 3 times and were -3.
I feel confident saying the team with the most rushing attempts will win the NFC Championship on Sunday. I don't feel confident predicting which team that will be.
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - BostonCard - 01-26-2023
(01-26-2023, 08:14 AM)cardcrimson Wrote:(01-26-2023, 06:42 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(01-25-2023, 09:34 PM)Mick Wrote: Apropos of nothing, did Trevor Bauer ever find another employer?
PLEASE keep this thread AT LEAST all about NFL, if not Niners specifically....
Umm, it was related specifically to the Niners. Trevor Bauer domestic abuser (accused, suspended, but not charged). Charles Omenihu domestic abuser (accused, arrested, but not charged or suspended, yet).
Trevor Bauer will not play for the Dodgers, his employer of record when the accusations came to light, ever again, and has yet to find someone to pay for his services. Charle Omenihu apparently will play for the Niners on Sunday. Certainly makes some ponder about the differing approaches, but apparently not everyone sees a comparison.
Bauer was suspended by MLB, not the Dodgers. Here's the NFL's policy:
https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018%20Policies/2018%20Personal%20Conduct%20Policy.pdf
Quote:Players convicted of a crime or subject to a disposition of a criminal proceeding (as defined in this Policy) are subject to discipline. But even if the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction, players found to have engaged in any of the following conduct will be subject to discipline. Prohibited conduct includes but is not limited to the following:
* Actual or threatened physical violence against another person, including dating violence, domestic violence, child abuse, and other forms of family violence;
...
Sounds like Omenihu's behavior would qualify.
BC
RE: OT: 2022 Niners thread - cardcrimson - 01-26-2023
(01-26-2023, 08:50 AM)Mick Wrote: What's odd to me is that the Eagles are only a two point favorite. Given the logistics and timing and the matchup challenges, I would have figured more. And Sunday will be the first time since before the 49er winning streak that the Niners weren't favored.
The Niners have a challenge facing mobile, running quarterbacks. Their success rate against scrambling quarterbacks is only 26th in the league. Hope they're game planning for a mobile Jalen Hurts. Or possibly Hurts is still suffering from his ankle injury.
Think it was a shoulder injury. . . .