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Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 03-25-2018

(03-25-2018, 04:59 PM)unclechuck link Wrote:Michigan men are in Final 4 for Hoops and Frozen Four as well. A 160 point (minimum) bounce for them? Plus, just one spot behind us for 8th in men's Swim & Dive.

Michigan Men's Hoops and Hockey could pick up as many as 200 Cup points, significant considering that they lagged Stanford by about 270 points in the first official Winter standings.  As a partial offset, Michigan earns no Cup points in Fencing and Stanford earns 57. 

We'll have a lot fewer scenarios to consider after Winter results including Hockey post on April 12.

Geaux Cardinal!




Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-05-2018

In the second D1 Winter standings released today, Stanford leads with a total of 977.50 points and Penn State is second with 753.75 points.  The Cardinal have widened their lead by 69 points since the March 22 standings. 

Press release here: http://www.nacda.com/sports/directorscup/spec-rel/040518aab.html

The press release has a link to the full standings.

I have been tracking points in the required sports for Stanford and the next ten teams as of 3/22.  In the four required sports, Stanford has 147 points, third behind Michigan with 165 and Texas with 162.  Of 1299 points scored to date by these eleven schools, 50% were in Women's Volleyball, 29% were in Women's Basketball, and 21% were in Men's Basketball.  With Baseball doing so well, it looks like the new scoring for required sports will not hurt us much, if at all, in the final standings.

Geaux Cardinal!


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-05-2018

The Frozen Four semifinals tonight pit Minnesota Duluth against Ohio State and Michigan against Notre Dame.  Each stands to pick up a minimum of 83 Cup points and gain ground on Stanford.

Geaux Cardinal!


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BostonCard - 04-05-2018

I guess we should root for Minnesota Duluth.

BC


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - ColoradoTree - 04-05-2018

(04-05-2018, 03:03 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:I guess we should root for Minnesota Duluth.

BC

I mean, you really should have been rooting for them anyway, says this ex-pat Minnesotan.


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-05-2018

(04-05-2018, 03:13 PM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=18258.msg227296#msg227296 date=1522965815]
I guess we should root for Minnesota Duluth.

BC

I mean, you really should have been rooting for them anyway, says this ex-pat Minnesotan.
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Well UMD is out to a 2-0 lead in first period.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/icehockey-men/article/2018-04-02/frozen-four-scores-live-updates-highlights-2018-ncaa-hockey

Game is on ESPN2.

The UMD Bulldogs have won eight national championships across Men's Ice Hockey, Women's Ice Hockey, and D II Football in the past ten years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Minnesota_Duluth#Athletics

Geaux Bulldogs!




Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-05-2018

Bulldogs beat Buckeyes 2-1 and move on to their third Frozen Four final in eight years.


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-05-2018

Notre Dame scores with 5 seconds left to beat Michigan 4-3 in Frozen Four semifinal.

Geaux Bulldogs!


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BobK - 04-08-2018

This spring UCLA has 7 Top 5 teams.  They are still in the hunt

http://uclabruins.com/sports/2016/6/27/national-rankings.aspx


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BostonCard - 04-09-2018

And the UMD Bulldogs beat the Domers to win the hockey national championship!

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/23069363/minnesota-duluth-gets-redemption-ncaa-hockey-title?ex_cid=BesideThePoints

BC


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - ColoradoTree - 04-09-2018

(04-08-2018, 09:19 AM)BobK link Wrote:This spring UCLA has 7 Top 5 teams.  They are still in the hunt

http://uclabruins.com/sports/2016/6/27/national-rankings.aspx

In the remaining NCAA sports, here's how Stanford compares to UCLA in a few different categories (relevant not just for the Directors' Cup, but for the overall NCAA championship lead):

1. They've got an edge

* Women's gymnastics: UCLA #2; Stanford "others receiving votes"
* Softball: UCLA #3; Stanford unranked
* Beach volleyball: UCLA #2; Stanford #13
* Men's volleyball: UCLA #5; Stanford unranked

2. We're close

* Women's golf: UCLA #2; Stanford #6
* Men's tennis: UCLA #2; Stanford #4
* Women's tennis: UCLA #13; Stanford #23 (I think both teams are Top 10 caliber)
* Women's water polo: Stanford #1; UCLA #4

3. We've got an edge

* Men's gymnastics: Stanford #4 (has been as high as #1); UCLA doesn't field a team
* Baseball: Stanford #2; UCLA #18
* Men's golf: Stanford #13; UCLA #23
* Women's lacrosse: Stanford #11; UCLA doesn't field a team
* Women's rowing: Stanford #7 (tied); UCLA "others receiving votes"
* Men's outdoor T&F: Stanford #20 (#8 in region); UCLA unranked (#14 in region)
* Women's outdoor T&F: Stanford #12 (#2 in region); UCLA unranked (#6 in region)

So, perhaps on balance we might have more chances at a title or some solid points, but given how concentrated UCLA's teams are in the top 5, you have to like their chances of getting a couple more NCAA titles before the year is done.


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BobK - 04-09-2018

Thanks Tree.

In WWP we have beaten UCLA a couple of times, the other day 8-5.
In Women's Golf we are in a tournament with them in Napa right now and they lead us by a single stroke. 


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-09-2018

(04-09-2018, 09:35 AM)ColoradoTree link Wrote:[quote author=BobK link=topic=18258.msg227494#msg227494 date=1523204380]
This spring UCLA has 7 Top 5 teams.  They are still in the hunt

http://uclabruins.com/sports/2016/6/27/national-rankings.aspx

In the remaining NCAA sports, here's how Stanford compares to UCLA in a few different categories (relevant not just for the Directors' Cup, but for the overall NCAA championship lead):

1. They've got an edge

* Women's gymnastics: UCLA #2; Stanford "others receiving votes"
* Softball: UCLA #3; Stanford unranked
* Beach volleyball: UCLA #2; Stanford #13
* Men's volleyball: UCLA #5; Stanford unranked

2. We're close

* Women's golf: UCLA #2; Stanford #6
* Men's tennis: UCLA #2; Stanford #4
* Women's tennis: UCLA #13; Stanford #23 (I think both teams are Top 10 caliber)
* Women's water polo: Stanford #1; UCLA #4

3. We've got an edge

* Men's gymnastics: Stanford #4 (has been as high as #1); UCLA doesn't field a team
* Baseball: Stanford #2; UCLA #18
* Men's golf: Stanford #13; UCLA #23
* Women's lacrosse: Stanford #11; UCLA doesn't field a team
* Women's rowing: Stanford #7 (tied); UCLA "others receiving votes"
* Men's outdoor T&F: Stanford #20 (#8 in region); UCLA unranked (#14 in region)
* Women's outdoor T&F: Stanford #12 (#2 in region); UCLA unranked (#6 in region)

So, perhaps on balance we might have more chances at a title or some solid points, but given how concentrated UCLA's teams are in the top 5, you have to like their chances of getting a couple more NCAA titles before the year is done.
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Thanks Tree for the great signal.

Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State all added Cup points for Men's Ice Hockey.  Unofficially, total Cup points are now as follow:

Stanford      977.50
Michigan      796.50
Penn State    778.75
Ohio State    739.00
NC State      683.50
Notre Dame  628.50
UCLA            474.50

Michigan through Notre Dame are the next five schools after Stanford.  I added UCLA to the tracking because of BobK's note about their expected very strong performance in remaining sports.

Geaux Cardinal!



Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - bbm233 - 04-09-2018

Men's golf has several questions heading into the Pac-12 tourney. I don't envy Conrad in trying to pick the right lineup...

Jeffrey Swegle, a senior who nobody expected to be a regular member of the lineup, has had a good sprint and played #1 at Western Intercollegiate and lived up to his position, with the lowest aggregate score for the team. However, he finished behind Bradley Knox, who was playing as an individual. That means Knox went into the tournament as #7 on the team, but he finished best of any Stanford player. If he had been in the lineup, Stanford probably finishes third instead of sixth. Knox was expected to be a regular, but played himself out of the lineup earlier in the spring. So, do you insert him into the lineup for the Pac-12s?

Brandon Wu, who played really well in the fall, is playing decent. Franklin Huang, who was supposed to be the #1, is playing solidly, but not great. Same story with Isaiah Salinda. Two underclassmen, Henry Shimp and Ashwin Arasu, have been given their chances and have done OK. David Snyder also made the lineup for this last tournament.

Conrad has 5 guys vying for the final three spots at the Pac 12 (Wu, Swegle, Huang are safe). Then cut one more for the Regionals. Just hope that Conrad can pick the hot hands, or this team won't make the NCAA championships. Last year he went with experience, which would mean Swegle, Huang, Wu, Salinda, Knox and Shimp.


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BostonCard - 04-09-2018

Also, because of the uncertainty in a golf tournament, I think #13 versus #23 probably would fall under the category of "we're close" rather than we have a definitive edge.

BC


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-09-2018

Projecting our final 19 Cup sports....

Fifteen sports count in the current total of 977.50.  This includes 0 for Men's Basketball (required), 25 for Women's Field Hockey, and 40 for Wrestling.

Going forward we have at least:

Baseball (required)
Men's Gymnastics
Women's Water Polo
Men's Tennis

This gets us to the limit of nineteen scoring sports and a Cup points total in the neighborhood of 1300.

What sports are the best candidates to replace Field Hockey and Wrestling and thus add to the above estimated total?

Geaux Cardinal!



Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BobK - 04-09-2018

Women’s track and field


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - BigEasyCard - 04-09-2018

(04-09-2018, 01:05 PM)BobK link Wrote:Women’s track and field

And maybe Women's Rowing?  If these two sports gross another 125 points between them, they would add a net of 60 to the above total and would put Stanford at about 1,360 for the year.  There are still plenty of great competitions to enjoy before we will know the final result for sure.

Geaux Cardinal!


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - unclechuck - 04-10-2018

(04-09-2018, 01:05 PM)BobK link Wrote:Women’s track and field

Women most currently ranked 11th in NCAA composite ranks - mostly on strong Field results out of Stanford Invitational; men have slipped to 25th.

http://ustfccca.org/assets/rankings/div1/2018-otf/DI_2018_outWk2_TF_NationalRankingsTop25.pdf


So in gross points roughly 70 for women and 48-50 for men (lots of ties in this score area, hence guesstimate). I'm unclear about the gender fidelity of swap outs, so will leave any net speculation to BEC.


Re: Directors' Cup 2017-18 - ColoradoTree - 04-10-2018

I think it is likely that women's tennis turns it on for NCAAs. They only have 3 losses (all to top 10 teams while our #2, Melissa Lord, was out injured), they're currently ranked 22nd, and if they can win out and get a Top 16 seed, they will be a classic underseeded Stanford team that no one wants to play, now that Lord is back healthy.

The first two rounds of the 64-team tournament are at campus sites (so a Top 16 seed means you get to stay at home), and then the final 16 teams all go to one location (this year, at Wake Forest) for the remainder of the tournament. If Stanford makes it to Winston-Salem, that's at least 64 points.