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RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - winflop - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 12:00 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(01-03-2019, 11:50 AM)Redrum Wrote: For those of us who more and more frequently end up napping at random times, what happened to Turley? Promoted within? Gone elsewhere? Really replaced by student intern? Really?
Turley was promoted to become the Kissick Family Director of Sports Performance for the entire DAPER.
https://gostanford.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1106
He still works with the football team, despite protestations of many here...
Quote:On top of his day-to-day duties with the football team, Turley oversees the sports performance program implementation for each of Stanford's 36 varsity teams.
That being said, given his other duties, he has less time to devote to the football team, and there is no permanent sports performance coordinator for football.
BC
But they did add an intern to the football staff!!! What a joke.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - BostonCard - 01-03-2019
A few adds:
Under Turley, there are the following:
Assistant Director • Football Sports Performance: Cullin Carroll
Associate Football Sports Performance Coach: Darius Reese
Sports Performance Coach: Sam Contorno
At least one of the sports performance coaches has responsibilities outside of football.
Among the medical staff are the following:
Head Team Physician: Jason Dragoo, MD (Orthopedic Surgery)
Team Physician: Gerald Keene, MD (Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, I think)
Team Physician: Calvin Hwang, MD (Emergency Medicine)
Al three physicians have duties outside of the football team (duh). Dragoo is the US Ski Team's physician; Keene also is one of Cal's team physicians. And all of them see regular patients.
There is also a head Physical Therapist: Floyd Vitocruz
Lastly, there is the Athletic training staff:
Interim Head Athletic Trainer: Emily Montoya
Assistant Athletic Trainer: Luke Klawiter
Assistant Athletic Trainer: Karmont Mak
It is this group that does not have a permanent head trainer. But you don't need a medical degree to be a trainer.
BC
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - Goose - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 10:27 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote:I think he did. I think he said "Take the ******* Rice job".(01-03-2019, 08:55 AM)Goose Wrote:(01-03-2019, 04:52 AM)winflop Wrote: Herbig was apparently pretty nasty but may not have been a leader like DeCastro was.One, the OL coach screaming at Herbig (Freshman year) as he comes to the sideline "Its F****** Rice", and the Cal game where Herbig is supposed to block the linebacker.
Shaw should've screamed at Bloomgren when he left for "F****** RICE". Would've been hilarious.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - ChicagoCard - 01-03-2019
Another one bites the dust according to Rivals thread names...
https://stanford.forums.rivals.com/forums/the-farm-report.10/
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - SamuelMcF - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 12:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Lastly, there is the Athletic training staff:
Interim Head Athletic Trainer: Emily Montoya
Assistant Athletic Trainer: Luke Klawiter
Assistant Athletic Trainer: Karmont Mak
It is this group that does not have a permanent head trainer. But you don't need a medical degree to be a trainer.
BC
Great info BC. But replacing the previous permanent head trainer with a 26-year-old former intern is not a good look. Here's his bio from 2 seasons ago:
https://gostanford.com/coaches.aspx?rc=648&path=football
(01-03-2019, 01:07 PM)ChicagoCard Wrote: Another one bites the dust according to Rivals thread names...
https://stanford.forums.rivals.com/forums/the-farm-report.10/
1. If it's the thread I'm thinking (your link doesn't say which one specifically), that's a mean-spirited joke and not actually true.
2. Don't cross-post the paid stuff here.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - BostonCard - 01-03-2019
Might that refer to this?
Scarlett declares for the draft
Thought about posting it when I first saw it, but the joke is getting old.
BC
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - ChicagoCard - 01-03-2019
Apologies. Seemed straightforward enough and the titles of threads are on the open Web.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - McKenwood - 01-03-2019
"Also, and here's another generalization, these intelligent players surely have a deep understanding of the risks they take each time they pull on their helmets. I'm sure all football players understand this, but if you're a Stanford player who has gotten to the level where the NFL becomes a possibility, an early departure probably says more about appreciating the narrow window of that opportunity than anything else. Bryce Love was obviously the rare exception, but he didn't stay for his senior because he loved football, he stayed because he loved education. If we compare him to Christian McCaffrey and his decision to leave early, neither choice can be viewed as a surprise. Christian remains one of my favorite Stanford players ever, but I never saw or read anything that made me think he loved being a student. He was always headed to the NFL, so he was always going to leave after his junior year."
Well said Hank 91.
Stanford has had more departures the past few years for a variety of reasons, most notably the early departures for the pros and for injury retirements. My sense is the injury departures have grown as the risks associated with football have become more apparent. Stanford's policy of allowing players to keep their scholarships if they are injured, even when leaving the team, most likely pushes the marginal player to opt out, especially in the 3rd and 4th years at Stanford.
Shaw has been slow to realize the trends of players deciding to go pro before they are "ready" in his mind and for players who decide not to pursue a 5th year or retire due to injury. As a result Stanford has been chronically short of the allowable 85 scholarship players the past two seasons. This may be the case in the 2019 season as well. This needs to fixed if Stanford is going to have sufficient depth to compete for conference championships.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - winflop - 01-03-2019
(01-03-2019, 01:59 PM)McKenwood Wrote: Stanford's policy of allowing players to keep their scholarships if they are injured, even when leaving the team, most likely pushes the marginal player to opt out, especially in the 3rd and 4th years at Stanford.
I have absolutely no problem with this policy and stand up and applaud Stanford for it.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - BobK - 01-03-2019
It's a medical scholarship and doesn't count against the 85. Plus it's all sports at Stanford.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - Mick - 01-06-2019
(01-02-2019, 02:32 PM)oldalum Wrote:(01-02-2019, 08:56 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote: Stanford admits football players with transcripts, GPAs, and test scores that wouldn't get them admitted if they weren't playing sports, so the 5% acceptance is a bit of a canard, isn't it?
I look at it this way: athletic ability and achievement is the primary attribute or talent that football players possess on their applications and that they are bringing to the university, apart from general academic excellence. This skill/attribute is not substantively different from the horn player that the music department needs or the history buff that the history department needs, etc.; it is part of creating a diverse entering class. These days, just being a very intelligent person in general is not enough to get you admitted, there are too many of those. If you take away football from the football applicant's application, his chance of acceptance would be less than 5%, but same for the horn player or the history buff if you took away their primary attribute/ability.
Another response is that if the top 25% academically of the nation's 3-to-5 star football recruits, or 4-to-5 star recruits, applied to Stanford, the acceptance rate would be far less than 5%. It is very difficult to get in, even as a good football player.
Bottom line is that I don't view the 5% acceptance rate as a canard. The admissions standards are a big barrier to recruiting players who we'd like based purely on football ability.
At a large national tournament, I was looking over a Stanford Head Coach's recruiting list. He had four names of fifty highlighted. I asked him "Are those the players you really want?" He said "Those are the four who can get into Stanford."
(01-02-2019, 09:38 PM)Phogge Wrote: My answer to Martyup. A leader has to step up on his own. Doesn’t have to be a rah rah, especially at Stanford. Looking back I can think of Mike Simone, Tom Williams and Gordy Ceresino as the type of player who inspired others with his hard nose play. I agree that somebody has to step up but who?
Wish Dave Wyman had eligibility remaining...
(01-03-2019, 11:09 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: So if you've got a kid who's already thinking that way, it shouldn't be surprising when he finishes his senior of college and begins to think about other things. It also shouldn't be surprising when those thoughts change. Two of my strongest memories from my senior year involve this. I arrived on campus in late September, and I was kind of heartbroken that it would be my last September. I couldn't imagine leaving the place that had given me the best three years of my life to that date, but in the spring I couldn't have been more ready to leave. It was shocking, really, how dramatically my feelings changed in such a short time. I was tired of the academic grind (even though those who knew me then would never have described me as a grinder), and I wasn't spending four to six hours a day on football. It never surprises me when players want to graduate and move on.
In short, this is just the way it is, and I wouldn't have it any different.
Great post, Hank.
My son competed in a different sport, but had shoulder surgery that took away a year of competition. In short, he was eligible for an immediate fifth year transfer after graduation. Stanford, Harvard and a few other schools with great graduate programs had recruited him from high school, and he'd had a solid four years...but he was just done. He loved playing, had played year round since he was in sixth grade, but was tired of the injuries, tired of school, and a little bit tired of the sport. So he fully retired and never looked back.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - winflop - 01-06-2019
(01-03-2019, 11:09 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: So if you've got a kid who's already thinking that way, it shouldn't be surprising when he finishes his senior of college and begins to think about other things. It also shouldn't be surprising when those thoughts change. Two of my strongest memories from my senior year involve this. I arrived on campus in late September, and I was kind of heartbroken that it would be my last September. I couldn't imagine leaving the place that had given me the best three years of my life to that date, but in the spring I couldn't have been more ready to leave. It was shocking, really, how dramatically my feelings changed in such a short time. I was tired of the academic grind (even though those who knew me then would never have described me as a grinder), and I wasn't spending four to six hours a day on football. It never surprises me when players want to graduate and move on.
In short, this is just the way it is, and I wouldn't have it any different.
I will never have an issue with a student-athlete who graduates and chooses to leave with remaining eligibility.
RE: Dylan Jackson leaving - UltimateCard - 01-06-2019
(01-06-2019, 08:41 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-03-2019, 11:09 AM)Hank 91 Wrote: So if you've got a kid who's already thinking that way, it shouldn't be surprising when he finishes his senior of college and begins to think about other things. It also shouldn't be surprising when those thoughts change. Two of my strongest memories from my senior year involve this. I arrived on campus in late September, and I was kind of heartbroken that it would be my last September. I couldn't imagine leaving the place that had given me the best three years of my life to that date, but in the spring I couldn't have been more ready to leave. It was shocking, really, how dramatically my feelings changed in such a short time. I was tired of the academic grind (even though those who knew me then would never have described me as a grinder), and I wasn't spending four to six hours a day on football. It never surprises me when players want to graduate and move on.
In short, this is just the way it is, and I wouldn't have it any different.
I will never have an issue with a student-athlete who graduates and chooses to leave with remaining eligibility.
I have a son who is a college junior. From my observation, there is a lot of anxiety among his generation about their future prospects. Maybe it’s social media or the changing nature of work or some other forces but students, whether or not they’re athletes, feel very stressed these days. My guess is more and more students just want to move on with executing their 40 year decisions.