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RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - winflop - 09-21-2019

Well I think it's fair to say that this is going to be a down year for Stanford football. The questions at this point are a) how down?, b) is it a blip or a trend?, c) how to fix it?, and d) is Shaw willing to do what's needed in order to fix it?

Stars of the game:
- TreeFense: they showed up today. Holding that explosive offense with an NFL-ready QB to 21 points is a major accomplishment
- RBs: especially Cam Scarlett. He's night & day different from last year
- DL & OLB: lots of #PartyInTheBackfield

Goats of the game:
- ShawVitaBerry for terrible playcalling/adjustments. Oregon's defense is fast, and the quick-hitting runs and passes were effective because they didn't give Oregon time to react. But too many slow-developing option runs and counters allowed Oregon to adjust & react. The fast plays were there for the taking. They just didn't call nearly enough of them
- ShawVitaBerry for leaving the starting OL in on the last series, especially Sarell & Hamilton who were both under 100% going into the game and came off the field limping on a meaningless series
- ShawVitaBery for not pulling an obviously-injured Costello
- David Shaw, for once again throwing his players under the bus in his postgame comments and not placing much if any responsibility for the last three losses on his highly-paid, professional coaching staff. That's three weeks in a row and I'm getting sick of it. He's not wrong, but he's also not telling the whole truth. It's really starting to piss me off


RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - thunder_chik - 09-21-2019

(09-21-2019, 09:00 PM)winflop Wrote:  Well I think it's fair to say that this is going to be a down year for Stanford football. The questions at this point are a) how down?, b) is it a blip or a trend?, c) how to fix it?, and d) is Shaw willing to do what's needed in order to fix it?

Stars of the game:
- TreeFense: they showed up today. Holding that explosive offense with an NFL-ready QB to 21 points is a major accomplishment
- RBs: especially Cam Scarlett. He's night & day different from last year
- DL & OLB: lots of #PartyInTheBackfield

Goats of the game:
- ShawVitaBerry for terrible playcalling/adjustments. Oregon's defense is fast, and the quick-hitting runs and passes were effective because they didn't give Oregon time to react. But too many slow-developing option runs and counters allowed Oregon to adjust & react. The fast plays were there for the taking. They just didn't call nearly enough of them
- ShawVitaBerry for leaving the starting OL in on the last series, especially Sarell & Hamilton who were both under 100% going into the game and came off the field limping on a meaningless series
- ShawVitaBery for not pulling an obviously-injured Costello
- David Shaw, for once again throwing his players under the bus in his postgame comments and not placing much if any responsibility for the last three losses on his highly-paid, professional coaching staff. That's three weeks in a row and I'm getting sick of it. He's not wrong, but he's also not telling the whole truth. It's really starting to piss me off
Totally agree.  O scheme needs an overhaul of massive proportions.  Should've given Mills a chance after Costello's thumb injury.  Coaching clearly a factor.


RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - ADPinWDC - 09-21-2019

NEW OFFCO... 
Troy Walters makes $700,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska as Husker OffCo -- mgiht take a $1.8M equivalent in Palo Alto.  www.omaha.com/huskers/football/nebraska-officially-announces-additions-of-troy-walters-sean-beckton-zach/article_ec2f2006-dc61-11e7-bdb2-073c3de04d41.html


RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - winflop - 09-22-2019

(09-21-2019, 11:21 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote:  NEW OFFCO... 
Troy Walters makes $700,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska as Husker OffCo -- mgiht take a $1.8M equivalent in Palo Alto.  www.omaha.com/huskers/football/nebraska-officially-announces-additions-of-troy-walters-sean-beckton-zach/article_ec2f2006-dc61-11e7-bdb2-073c3de04d41.html

Sorry but I don't want our next OC to come from any part of the Stanford family. We need to go completely outside the program. We need completely fresh ideas.

I'm not even sure Shaw's going to can Fanboy Hero or anyone else on his staff. Based on his statements the last three weeks, there are no coaching issues just players not making plays.


RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - Hurlburt88 - 09-22-2019

I join all those who are discouraged, particularly with the offense.    My 4-point prescription:   



RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - BostonCard - 09-22-2019

(09-22-2019, 05:48 AM)winflop Wrote:  
(09-21-2019, 11:21 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote:  NEW OFFCO... 
Troy Walters makes $700,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska as Husker OffCo -- mgiht take a $1.8M equivalent in Palo Alto.  www.omaha.com/huskers/football/nebraska-officially-announces-additions-of-troy-walters-sean-beckton-zach/article_ec2f2006-dc61-11e7-bdb2-073c3de04d41.html

Sorry but I don't want our next OC to come from any part of the Stanford family. We need to go completely outside the program. We need completely fresh ideas.

I'm not even sure Shaw's going to can Fanboy Hero or anyone else on his staff. Based on his statements the last three weeks, there are no coaching issues just players not making plays.

Other than being a former player, Walters is outside the “family”.  To my knowledge, he’s had no interaction with either the Shaw or Harbaugh coaching tree.  

BC


RE: Next starts soon (Oregon game thread) - cardcrimson - 09-22-2019

(09-22-2019, 08:46 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(09-22-2019, 05:48 AM)winflop Wrote:  
(09-21-2019, 11:21 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote:  NEW OFFCO... 
Troy Walters makes $700,000 in Lincoln, Nebraska as Husker OffCo -- mgiht take a $1.8M equivalent in Palo Alto.  www.omaha.com/huskers/football/nebraska-officially-announces-additions-of-troy-walters-sean-beckton-zach/article_ec2f2006-dc61-11e7-bdb2-073c3de04d41.html

Sorry but I don't want our next OC to come from any part of the Stanford family. We need to go completely outside the program. We need completely fresh ideas.

I'm not even sure Shaw's going to can Fanboy Hero or anyone else on his staff. Based on his statements the last three weeks, there are no coaching issues just players not making plays.

Other than being a former player, Walters is outside the “family”.  To my knowledge, he’s had no interaction with either the Shaw or Harbaugh coaching tree.  

BC

Wonder how we'd do with a little Luck. Heard he has some time on his hands.