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lex24 - lex24 - 08-06-2020
(08-06-2020, 05:49 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(08-06-2020, 11:09 AM)paloalto Wrote:(08-06-2020, 10:55 AM)Phogge Wrote: As a former NCAA athlete I would like to have been given a stipend even though I played in a non-scholie D2 program. Our meal money on the road was $2 per day. So I have sympathy.
The athlete problem is acerbated by the individuality of the member NCAA institutions. I just can't see Stanford going as far as a school like Alabama where football is SO much more important. We played because it was fun and with a tiny chance of being drafted. My offer was a flat $500 for what amounted to Class D for a three month season plus a 12 year old used car owned by the scout. LOL.
I actually think that club sports and intramurals are enough for a serious university student, especially with all the future implications of brain injury in football. Time for the NFL to pony up for a true development league for those who want to risk the dangers of traumatic injury later in life.
Yes, I agree with this. It's unfortunate I can't express that opinion without someone indirectly claiming or implying I am a racist for having the viewpoint the main focus of college should be academic education
Exactly.
But then again, dropping the race card often is the desperate move of those without further argument. It often is the nuclear option . . . and . . . well . . . there you have it.
The sad thing (for me, anyway) is that I'm being persuaded more and more by the "no scholarships at all" camp for colleges. Club and intramural sports should suffice for the mission of institutions of higher education.
But in all events, the NFL should most definitely pony up and fund their own, separate Development League. I don't understand why anyone would oppose forcing that option (or at least trying to).
If an NFL d league replaces college football it will be a net negative. As only a relative few will be playing in it. Having it along with a College Football is a different story.
I also believe there is a whole lot of Covid weariness talking here. Not playing this season is, IMO, the right thing to do. But I find it rather amazing that a board full of folks that are passionate about college football seem willing to permanently wave good bye. I think it’s the Covid talking.
RE: Pac-12 (Football) Players Demands - Spiny_Norman - 08-07-2020
Another Stanford writer opines. Sally Jenkins rips into the schools and their administrations that have spent so much money on athletic salaries and infrastructure lately.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2020/08/07/college-sports-embraced-reckless-greed-with-coronavirus-crisis-bill-has-come-due/
Quote:The pandemic has subjected the NCAA to radiographical exposure. Every crooked vertebra of the system is on glowing fluorescent display. It’s similar to the sensation when you view an X-ray that shows your cat swallowed your favorite fountain pen. You can see all the things that don’t belong in the guts of a university.
The coronavirus crisis is an incredible diagnostic tool. The excesses have never been so sharply delineated: The $50 million stadium upgrades, the indoor waterfalls, the ballooning salaries, the locker rooms designed like first-class luxury airliner cabins now look like protruding, tumorous distortions, worthy of recoil and disgust. Institutions have laid themselves bare, with their desperate insistence on trying to make unpaid kids play football in a viral outbreak simply to meet their overextended bills.
. . . Understand this: These schools don’t have a money problem. They have a shopping addiction. From 2004 to 2018, NCAA revenue exploded from $3 billion to $14 billion thanks largely to media rights, licensing, and sponsorship deals. Yet some schools are so financially distressed that a single canceled football season could be catastrophic. Stanford has cut 11 sports, and Wisconsin informed donors that it could face a $100 million shortfall. Where’d the money go? The answer is, to compulsive spending and gross misallocation. Hundreds of millions disappeared into the pockets of deputy assistant associate athletic directors for administration; conference commissioners for the commission of commissions; and Nick Saban’s corporate-welfare army of “football analysts.”
lex24 - lex24 - 08-07-2020
Never let a crisis go to waste. Amazing how all of a sudden people are writing about the enormous bloat associated with college revenue sports. Did they just notice this ? I guess I’m just a tad cynical.
RE: lex24 - SamuelMcF - 08-07-2020
(08-07-2020, 11:08 AM)lex24 Wrote: Never let a crisis go to waste. Amazing how all of a sudden people are writing about the enormous bloat associated with college revenue sports. Did they just notice this ? I guess I’m just a tad cynical.
No, they did not just notice this.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/01/16/universities-spend-more-athletics-athlete-academics-student-report-finds
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2017/07/06/colleges-spending-more-their-athletes-because-they-can/449433001/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/education/amid-march-madness-americans-express-concern-college-sports-spending
https://espn991.com/are-colleges-spending-too-much-money-on-athletics/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryancraig/2016/11/17/big-time-college-sports-spending-student-dollars-on-marketing-and-entertainment/#65e57ae1607e
https://hepinc.com/newsroom/state-universities-spending-over-100000-per-athlete-8-to-12-times-more-than-academics/
https://www.businessinsider.com/colleges-sports-coaches-cost-vs-athletic-scholarships-2019-3
https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/03/the-case-against-student-athletes/518739/
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/07/education/colleges-increasing-spending-on-sports-faster-than-on-academics-report-finds.html
https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/8/12/20704195/college-football-athletic-budgets
https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/spending-college-sports-out-control/
https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2015/12/11/Intercollegiate-Forum/College-Spending.aspx