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RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Texas 12pm Sunday - BillBradley - 11-14-2021

Thoughts:
- No fun to lose, but the team is going to be fine. Final 4 at least. We were 4-27 from 3. Pretty tough to win any game when you shoot like that. The effects of hitting even a few more threes are way more than just the points. Spacing gets better because the defense has to respect the shot, the lanes open up, all of a sudden everything is easier. Even if we we go 7 for 27, I think we win by double digits. And even as poorly as we played, we still were in it to the end. Stinks to play like that, but it's a really positive sign IMO.
- We miss Kiana's ball handling, but we miss her leadership more.
- We played our best in this game when Lacie was bringing it up and when Haley was off the ball. I thought she did a decent job, plus her floor game is crazy good. Her +/- was +19(!). Another way to look at that stat: during Lacie's 25 minutes we outscored them by 19. The other 15 minutes, they outscored us by 24. That says a lot.
- Anna just doesn't have the skills at point. Not quick enough, can't keep defenders off her, and doesn't make good reads. Her value is on defense (except for today - don't know what happened there).
- It's a struggle for Haley to bring it up against quicker guards and she is too turnover prone. Pretty much the same story there.
- She wasn't very good today, but I think Jordan can really help at the PG spot. Will be interesting to watch her develop and see if she can step it up. Jana apparently is on the outside looking in.
- Texas is a very good, well-coached team, and Harmon and Mitharu are impressive. They will be right there in the end.
- I agree with others, we got outcoached today. Maybe Tara uses games like this to experiment, but wow - lots of weird choices. For me the toughest was to watch Cam not be an integral part of the offense. Good things happen when she has it. She can pass, finish, usually has a quickness advantage on whoever is guarding her. In the first half, she turned it over once on the block, but got to the line every other time. She's an All American caliber player and has to shoot it more than 3 times in a game. Didn't make much sense to me why we didn't exploit her advantage on the block and instead sat her while Texas took the lead and went up by 8.

And even though we lost, I had 10x more fun watching the ladies play than the men! :>

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Texas 12pm Sunday - joemontes - 11-14-2021

This is what happens when you just lost your elite PG in Kiana WILLIAMS to graduation, who can break the press and control tempo for their halfcourt offense. And Tara insisted on playing together her tall guard assembly of the 6'1 HULL sisters and 6'1 JONES vs. a bunch of diminutives in 5'6 Rori HARMON , 5'7 Aliyah MATHARU, 5'7 Ashley CHEVALIER and 5'9 Audrey WARREN, who all can create off the dribble and shoot the three. I would have experimented on playing Jana VAN GYTENBEEK and Jordan HAMILTON together with Anna WILSON.

I remember Dawn STALEY commenting that Tara likes to play it clean and organized, so the best way to counter that is to play hard-nosed physical and disruptive defense. In last year's Final Four, her South Carolina team couldn't really successfully apply full court pressure because of the stabilizing presence of PG Kiana WILLIAMS. Without her now, I think Tara just needs to rely on grad transfer Jordan HAMILTON or Jana VAN GYTENBEEK to play alongside WILSON, and take the pressure of having to bring the ball up from Haley JONES and Lexie HULL.

RE: WBB: Stanford vs. Texas 12pm Sunday - stanford22 - 11-14-2021

I thought Tara should have tried to change the vibe since the offense was stagnant. Trying Jana and Agnes might have helped. Jana to run the offense and Agnes to put some pressure on Texas. Running some plays would help when the team looked loss on the court. And need to use Cam more. The current guards don’t see the floor well and missed several easy opportunities. Instead, they kicked it out to. 3pt shooter who would then miss.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - BostonCard - 11-14-2021

We were on the last announced list of “finalists”, though Fudd did cross us out before picking UConn. So, no, it wasn’t a choice between Stanford and UConn, but certainly we were recruiting her until she crossed us off.

BC

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - Hoops9092 - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 04:38 PM)BostonCard Wrote: We were on the last announced list of “finalists”, though Fudd did cross us out before picking UConn. So, no, it wasn’t a choice between Stanford and UConn, but certainly we were recruiting her until she crossed us off.

BC

I don’t think this is correct, either. It was UConn, UCLA, Louisville and Maryland. Never saw much dialogue around her and Stanford.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - 81alum - 11-14-2021

Well a disappointment to be sure, but Tara does have a way of taking these kinds of games and building from them. The back-to-back losses last year began our undefeated run to the championship--partly because they provoked some lineup changes.

In writing about Morgan State, I said:

"Tara will be concerned about 21 turnovers. If we do that against Texas we will lose--and Texas is better equipped than Morgan State to force turnovers. Wilson with 1 assist and 3 turnovers, Jones and Lexie with three turnovers each as well. Many of them were "trying to do too much" sorts of turnovers--trying to zip the ball in for a spectacular play. If Morgan State got deflections imagine what Texas will do."

We had 20 turnovers to Texas's 10. When you give the other side 10 more chances than you have, it is hard to win. Many of those turnovers were unforced.

The other factor, that many have pointed out, was our misses of wide open treys. We were 4 of 27, and few of the misses were closely contested. The misses went left, they went right, they were hurried when there was no need, etc.

So we lost because of unforced turnovers and missed open shots. What does that mean? It says to me that our team was tight. Perhaps playing in front of a crowd actually was harder than playing in empty gyms--so many expectations to win and so much disappointment not to. The Texas defense was good, but not that good.

I also observed from the first open scrimmage that our defense was excellent and far out in front of the offense. Today we held Texas to 61 which should normally have been more than enough to win. That is less than half what they scored on Tuesday. This loss is on the offense more than the defense.

Rori Harmon for Texas is a freshman--a McD AA. She certainly looks like the next Ari McDonald, and will probably get there before her college career is done. Eiliyah Matharu we have played before--she was on the Mississippi State team Schaeffer coached in the Victoria tournament. She was 4/4 from three point range, and Texas went 4/4 from three point range in the 4th quarter. They needed those points.

Haley Jones had 5 turnovers. She has been plagued with turnovers her whole career. I am not sure what needs to happen to reverse that. She is the person who tries to make something happen when nothing is happening--and 5 times it backfired.

Our point guards Anna Wilson and Lacie Hull were collectively 0/9 from three point range. That has to change or, as has been pointed out, the defense will just collapse on the bigs and destroy the inside game. We had only 22 points in the paint--with some of the best inside players in WBB. Brink and Belibi were severely limited.

If I were looking for positives, I would say our free throw shooting was respectable, and we out rebounded Texas by a substantial margin.

Now, as for Tara's strategy, I think she was determined not to play any of the freshmen today--that this early season game belongs to the returners from the national championship. My guess is that this loss may help her to justify giving the freshmen more playing time. The player who mostly beat us, after all, was a freshman no more highly ranked than ours.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - jfredmuggs - 11-14-2021

When you shoot 27 threes and only make 4 you are going to lose. Simple as that. Texas was quick, aggressive and disruptive defensively and made it really hard to get the ball inside, but we had plenty of good looks from outside. It wasn’t Tara’s fault that we only made 15%. Last year we averaged 38% from three. If we had made anything close to that today (37% would have been 10 made threes) we would have run away with this game. Sometimes the ball doesn’t go in.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - old spanish trail - 11-14-2021

I agree with Muggs and Bill Bradley. Make anywhere near a normal % of 3s and we win no matter the TO's, failure to utilize Brink in the post, passive rebounding especially from Prechtel, ineffective passing, no early sense of urgency and then inability to call it up later, and pt guard issues which SHOULD be solvable with so many athletes. Tara is probably wishing more joy for the players but happy she has MANY teachable moments.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - crackpot - 11-14-2021

At one point the FT percentage was a nice 82, then dropped down to a respectable 78 for the game. I really thought at one point we might win due to FTs.

But that was an ugly, ugly game. Aside from the outcome, I don't want to watch it when defense is practially doing a full-body exam. I'm not asking for the days of 20 years ago when a player would get whistled for a simple hand-check, but something in-between. The men's game is so much more lovely at this point. I'm not sure why I spend my money and time on this.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - M T - 11-14-2021

I don't remember but a couple or three issues in bring the ball up court ONCE IT WAS IN PLAY. The hard part was getting it in bounds and safely into our hands. We had few assists because (1) our 3pt shots weren't going in (so a pass to an open 3 wasn't an assist), even if open and (2) it was tough to pass inside. I wouldn't blame this loss on the PG play.
(I do wish we'd found a way to burn them on putting a big, slow player defending on the inbounds. If Cam or whomever had run back fast (making the opponent run), we might have been able to get some passes to the inside, or at least tire out their limited bigs and use our depth to advantage later in the game.)

At the start of the 2nd half, I noticed our two first shots were set up on the three, draw the defender, and then step in for a bit shorter shot. Maybe we should have done more of that.

After today, I think we can agree that the answer to this question posed by BBC is yes.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - RuralFan - 11-14-2021

It has now been about three hours from the end of the game. I am still angry. How could Stanford have put on the court a team so unprepared? This was a nationally televised game with much advertising before hand and many will think it funny if Stanford is even mentioned as a top ten team.

Vic Schaeffer was a defensive coordinator in 2011 for Texas A&M, and Texas beat Stanford in a National Semifinal game with exactly the defense he used today. Even worse, Jeanette Pohlen was the Stanford point guard for much of that game. Did Jeanette and Tara not remember? In any case, we had no more answers today than we did a decade ago.

We obviously have a point guard problem, although I thought Lacie Hull did well in her minutes. On the other hand, our other point guards didn't have much luck. I think the apparent game plan may have been to blame. You can't stand around if you want to poke holes in Vic's defense and stand around is exactly what we did. Several times we did get past the press and had three on two situations. We immediately slowed the ball and waited for Texas to set up their defense.

Wasn't it a brilliant move for Haley Jones to bring the ball up the court? I would argue it was a brilliant move for Texas. It took Haley out of the offense and resulted in some crazy passes that mostly ended up in the seats.

This is a early season game and surely everything will be fine later. I hope so, but not if we don't good deal smarter about what we are trying to do.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - chimera - 11-14-2021

Well that was a letdown. Agree with those who said even with all the other issues if we just shot threes half decently, heck a quarter decently, we probably win. I do think this was a tough game due to several factors - pressure of being defending champs, ring ceremony on their minds perhaps, very tough defensive opponent early when the offense has not yet gelled and we don't have a clear picture of how the guard spots will go, and early season good defense being ahead of offense. But we should have won, and I think Texas did out-coach ours in this one.

First of all, I hate Jones bringing up the ball up like that. I don't get why she is tasked with that. We need her to score and rebound, not spend energy doing something others can do. We did best when someone else brought the ball up. Jones needs to be free to receive the ball to score and to create, not spend her time up top directing the offense. She can't pass to herself. She only took 6 or 7 shots I believe, and most were off her own dribble, not from a pass to her. She needs to get more shots and better ones. If someone is going to turn the ball over running the point, let that be someone else. In fact, I think it is better to live with a few turnovers from Hamilton, Wilson, Van Gyntenbeek (why did she not get a shot??) and free up Jones, which might improve the offense overall and may not even cause the TO total teamwide to be worse.

Second, why did we not try harder to get the ball inside? Like maybe some high-Low action between maybe Prechtel and Brink or some such? How many shots did our bigs take? Brink had what 3? With such depth inside why did we not manage to get the ball inside more?

Third, the offense was stagnant, with too much standing around, too many dribble into a corner or side and pick up the dribble only to get hounded into a TO.

Every inbounds was an adventure all game. We never really got that sorted.

I did not get some of the line-up choices. I do understand why the frosh may not have been ready for this sort of game. I don't get why we disrupted our own offense by not really having a pg out there. If Jana is not good enough at this point we are in trouble. next year perhaps and maybe this year too. She does move the ball quickly and is a floor general. I wish she had been given a shot. If the worry was turnovers, well we had 20 so what we were doing was not working. I do think that this pg by committee thing is not good. It will be fine against most teams, it will not work well against top teams with strong defenses. Yes, Texas plays very tough D, more than most. But we were our own worst enemy on offense. Our defense was ok but too many unnecessary fouls, fouls not near our basket where they attempt to do whatever it was, was not necessary and resulted in a foul.

Now to the not so bad - it was game 2 and a tough one for reasons outlined above and things will improve. The pressure is now off. We already blew a game we should have won and all the chatter about repeating will lessen, which is probably a very good thing. And hopefully the coaches will change strategy on who is doing the ball handling. I don't know that Wilson is quite up to it. I don't know if Hamilton is. I don't know if Jana is. Or Lacie. But someone needs to be given the keys and allowed to settle in as the pg, or we will have games like this. Ok, that was not a "to the good" sort of statement. I know it is tough to replace a 4 year starter as Williams was. But someone, not a changing group of someones, needs to do the job. I recall plenty of teams where they lost their pg for some reason and someone who was expected to not be that great did a great job. Maybe nobody is winning the job right now. Pick the best of them and lets see if she steps up to the plate. Tara said "young team"in the post game. But this is not a young team. The core group who played today were mostly upperclass players. Youth was not the issue. Lots to fix...

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - Hoops9092 - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 06:30 PM)chimera Wrote: Well that was a letdown. Agree with those who said even with all the other issues if we just shot threes half decently, heck a quarter decently, we probably win. I do think this was a tough game due to several factors - pressure of being defending champs, ring ceremony on their minds perhaps, very tough defensive opponent early when the offense has not yet gelled and we don't have a clear picture of how the guard spots will go, and early season good defense being ahead of offense. But we should have won, and I think Texas did out-coach ours in this one.

First of all, I hate Jones bringing up the ball up like that. I don't get why she is tasked with that. We need her to score and rebound, not spend energy doing something others can do. We did best when someone else brought the ball up. Jones needs to be free to receive the ball to score and to create, not spend her time up top directing the offense. She can't pass to herself. She only took 6 or 7 shots I believe, and most were off her own dribble, not from a pass to her. She needs to get more shots and better ones. If someone is going to turn the ball over running the point, let that be someone else. In fact, I think it is better to live with a few turnovers from Hamilton, Wilson, Van Gyntenbeek (why did she not get a shot??) and free up Jones, which might improve the offense overall and may not even cause the TO total teamwide to be worse.

Second, why did we not try harder to get the ball inside? Like maybe some high-Low action between maybe Prechtel and Brink or some such? How many shots did our bigs take? Brink had what 3? With such depth inside why did we not manage to get the ball inside more?

Third, the offense was stagnant, with too much standing around, too many dribble into a corner or side and pick up the dribble only to get hounded into a TO.

Every inbounds was an adventure all game. We never really got that sorted.

I did not get some of the line-up choices. I do understand why the frosh may not have been ready for this sort of game. I don't get why we disrupted our own offense by not really having a pg out there. If Jana is not good enough at this point we are in trouble. next year perhaps and maybe this year too. She does move the ball quickly and is a floor general. I wish she had been given a shot. If the worry was turnovers, well we had 20 so what we were doing was not working. I do think that this pg by committee thing is not good. It will be fine against most teams, it will not work well against top teams with strong defenses. Yes, Texas plays very tough D, more than most. But we were our own worst enemy on offense. Our defense was ok but too many unnecessary fouls, fouls not near our basket where they attempt to do whatever it was, was not necessary and resulted in a foul.

Now to the not so bad - it was game 2 and a tough one for reasons outlined above and things will improve. The pressure is now off. We already blew a game we should have won and all the chatter about repeating will lessen, which is probably a very good thing. And hopefully the coaches will change strategy on who is doing the ball handling. I don't know that Wilson is quite up to it. I don't know if Hamilton is. I don't know if Jana is. Or Lacie. But someone needs to be given the keys and allowed to settle in as the pg, or we will have games like this. Ok, that was not a "to the good" sort of statement. I know it is tough to replace a 4 year starter as Williams was. But someone, not a changing group of someones, needs to do the job. I recall plenty of teams where they lost their pg for some reason and someone who was expected to not be that great did a great job. Maybe nobody is winning the job right now. Pick the best of them and lets see if she steps up to the plate. Tara said "young team"in the post game. But this is not a young team. The core group who played today were mostly upperclass players. Youth was not the issue. Lots to fix...

This is so spot on. I couldn't word it better.

I think back to Jeanette Pohlen (who now is on staff) making the conversion to the point guard spot. Breaking the press, at times, then was a nightmare but the consistent flow was in tact with Pohlen running the show and in fact, by her final year she blossomed at the lead guard spot and went to on to being Pac-12 Player of the Year — I don't think any of us saw that coming in her first year.

While I know we can't make a recruit choose us and I know we can't just hand pick who and what year they classify at, it does surprise me that we haven't navigated away from this situation as Tara and crew had to of seen it coming. This just feels so similar to those early 2010 teams that seemed to have all the pieces except a dynamic, athletic guard who can break down the press and get the defense scrambling. Kiana Williams (and many other PGs around the country in recent years) showed just how key that is.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - joemontes - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 06:30 PM)chimera Wrote: Well that was a letdown. Agree with those who said even with all the other issues if we just shot threes half decently, heck a quarter decently, we probably win. I do think this was a tough game due to several factors - pressure of being defending champs, ring ceremony on their minds perhaps, very tough defensive opponent early when the offense has not yet gelled and we don't have a clear picture of how the guard spots will go, and early season good defense being ahead of offense. But we should have won, and I think Texas did out-coach ours in this one.

First of all, I hate Jones bringing up the ball up like that. I don't get why she is tasked with that. We need her to score and rebound, not spend energy doing something others can do. We did best when someone else brought the ball up. Jones needs to be free to receive the ball to score and to create, not spend her time up top directing the offense. She can't pass to herself. She only took 6 or 7 shots I believe, and most were off her own dribble, not from a pass to her. She needs to get more shots and better ones. If someone is going to turn the ball over running the point, let that be someone else. In fact, I think it is better to live with a few turnovers from Hamilton, Wilson, Van Gyntenbeek (why did she not get a shot??) and free up Jones, which might improve the offense overall and may not even cause the TO total teamwide to be worse.

Second, why did we not try harder to get the ball inside? Like maybe some high-Low action between maybe Prechtel and Brink or some such? How many shots did our bigs take? Brink had what 3? With such depth inside why did we not manage to get the ball inside more?

Third, the offense was stagnant, with too much standing around, too many dribble into a corner or side and pick up the dribble only to get hounded into a TO.

Every inbounds was an adventure all game. We never really got that sorted.

I did not get some of the line-up choices. I do understand why the frosh may not have been ready for this sort of game. I don't get why we disrupted our own offense by not really having a pg out there. If Jana is not good enough at this point we are in trouble. next year perhaps and maybe this year too. She does move the ball quickly and is a floor general. I wish she had been given a shot. If the worry was turnovers, well we had 20 so what we were doing was not working. I do think that this pg by committee thing is not good. It will be fine against most teams, it will not work well against top teams with strong defenses. Yes, Texas plays very tough D, more than most. But we were our own worst enemy on offense. Our defense was ok but too many unnecessary fouls, fouls not near our basket where they attempt to do whatever it was, was not necessary and resulted in a foul.

Now to the not so bad - it was game 2 and a tough one for reasons outlined above and things will improve. The pressure is now off. We already blew a game we should have won and all the chatter about repeating will lessen, which is probably a very good thing. And hopefully the coaches will change strategy on who is doing the ball handling. I don't know that Wilson is quite up to it. I don't know if Hamilton is. I don't know if Jana is. Or Lacie. But someone needs to be given the keys and allowed to settle in as the pg, or we will have games like this. Ok, that was not a "to the good" sort of statement. I know it is tough to replace a 4 year starter as Williams was. But someone, not a changing group of someones, needs to do the job. I recall plenty of teams where they lost their pg for some reason and someone who was expected to not be that great did a great job. Maybe nobody is winning the job right now. Pick the best of them and lets see if she steps up to the plate. Tara said "young team"in the post game. But this is not a young team. The core group who played today were mostly upperclass players. Youth was not the issue. Lots to fix...

You're right and Tara is wrong, this Stanford team is a veteran team, returning 12 of their 13 players from their championship season last year. Tara was simply outcoached, plain and simple. The defensive pressure of Texas got into her players minds (including the theatricals of Audrey WARREN), resulting in them playing uptight throughout. On the other hand, the much smaller Longhorns played loose, like they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - UltimateCard - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 06:58 PM)Hoops9092 Wrote: I think back to Jeanette Pohlen (who now is on staff) making the conversion to the point guard spot. Breaking the press, at times, then was a nightmare but the consistent flow was in tact with Pohlen running the show and in fact, by her final year she blossomed at the lead guard spot and went to on to being Pac-12 Player of the Year — I don't think any of us saw that coming in her first year.

While I know we can't make a recruit choose us and I know we can't just hand pick who and what year they classify at, it does surprise me that we haven't navigated away from this situation as Tara and crew had to of seen it coming. This just feels so similar to those early 2010 teams that seemed to have all the pieces except a dynamic, athletic guard who can break down the press and get the defense scrambling. Kiana Williams (and many other PGs around the country in recent years) showed just how key that is.

Jeanette made the conversion to a top point guard over a summer, with the help of a personal coach. The needed quantum leap won't happen during the season for any of our PG by committee. It's going to be interesting to see what our coaches do - and it might tip off whether this is Tara's last season. I could see going with Jordan if that's the case - give the PG with the most D1 experience more playing time in her only season to gel with new teammates. That, of course, doesn't help develop a PG for future years. Just speculation...

(11-14-2021, 03:21 PM)mbdude Wrote: Highlights of Matharu 5 3s in 4th. Jones didnt contest hard on any of them

I'd have to watch a replay to see if this is the case but it seemed like UT was taking advantage of our switching defense, using screens to get the matchup they wanted. So this may have been by design to have Matharu shoot over Haley.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - Softball Fan - 11-14-2021

"Jeanette made the conversion to a top point guard over a summer, with the help of a personal coach. The needed quantum leap won't happen during the season for any of our PG by committee."

I tend to agree with this. It's a little late to start figuring out who your point guard is going to be. IMO it would have been better to pick out the two best candidates (starter and backup) and work intensively with them during the summer under the direction of a coach (within NCAA guidelines for practice time).

You have to choose among the available players. The sooner the decision is made the better. Why would Tara wait until the season starts to audition four different players?

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - jonnyss - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 07:01 PM)joemontes Wrote: You're right and Tara is wrong, this Stanford team is a veteran team, returning 12 of their 13 players from their championship season last year. Tara was simply outcoached, plain and simple. The defensive pressure of Texas got into her players minds (including the theatricals of Audrey WARREN), resulting in them playing uptight throughout. On the other hand, the much smaller Longhorns played loose, like they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

regarding the theatricals of audrey warren, vic schaefer, when at texas a&m, used danielle adams in exactly the same way against stanford in the final 4. appears schaefer trains his players in many defensive strategies, some wholesome, some shady - including the flop.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - BosCard - 11-14-2021

You just aren't going to win games against top teams constantly turning the ball over and missing 23 3-point shots, many of which were wide open. The defense was great. The offense looks no better than last year. But we did win a national championship last year so anything is possible.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - jfredmuggs - 11-14-2021

Tara did not miss 85% of our (27) three point attempts in this game. That was a bunch of other people. If somebody, anybody, makes a couple more threes in this game, we’re having an entirely different conversation right now. And sometimes a player who hasn’t done much so far comes into the game and hits three after three at the end of the game. (4 for 4, in fact.) Was it the opposing coach’s fault when Ashton Prechtel went crazy in the second half against Louisville in the Tournament?

Also, IIRC, Kiana did not bring the ball upcourt against Arizona for a major part of the championship game. It was Haley and others. Seemed to work OK. Not saying that putting Haley at the point is the solution to anything. Not saying that Tara never makes a mistake. Just saying that she’s won at least a thousand more games than anyone posting on this board. It’s November guys. Take a deep breath.

RE: WBB: Stanford 56 Texas 61 - M T - 11-14-2021

(11-14-2021, 08:09 PM)BosCard Wrote: You just aren't going to win games against top teams constantly turning the ball over and missing 23 3-point shots, many of which were wide open. The defense was great. The offense looks no better than last year. But we did win a national championship last year so anything is possible.

Someone commented about holding Tennessee to 4 assists years ago. UTexas had just 3 assists. (Stanford didn't shine with only 7 assists)
We had 10 blocks (not surprising that UTexas had 0).
Steals were 7 for UT and 4 for Stanford.
Stanford got 71% of the rebounds of UTexas shots, and 37% of our own shots.
Stanford hit 62% of its two-point shots. UTexas hit 33% of their two-point shots.
Stanford hit 78% of FTA. UTexas hit 73%

Stanford 20 TO (4 were off. foul calls, 2 were 5sec, 1step on the sideline, 4 lost ball, 9 bad pass). UTexas 10 (1 was off. foul call)
Stanford hit 4 of 27 3FGA. Texas hit 4 of 7 3FGA (all in the last 7 minutes)

So, what was so good about Lacie that her +/- was 19 in 25 minutes? She only made 2 points herself and missed 5 3FGA shots. I didn't check, but I'd guess she wasn't in when Texas made their four 3PT shots. Maybe her defense was stopping that?