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RE: 76lsjumb - BostonCard - 12-14-2024
(12-13-2024, 09:53 PM)76lsjumb Wrote: Our game management and inability to run a decent inbounds play did. That, and a defense that decided to let one of their players shoot without any guarding… apparently kind of like what we were doing tonight.
To be fair, one reason why we struggled running the inbounds play is that the player that was supposed to receive the ball was getting mugged.
BC
RE: 76lsjumb - crackpot - 12-14-2024
(12-14-2024, 02:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-13-2024, 09:53 PM)76lsjumb Wrote: Our game management and inability to run a decent inbounds play did. That, and a defense that decided to let one of their players shoot without any guarding… apparently kind of like what we were doing tonight.
To be fair, one reason why we struggled running the inbounds play is that the player that was supposed to receive the ball was getting mugged.
BC
...for maybe the first time this season?
At what point does the team know which refs are scheduled for the game? Days before, or whenever they show up? While ideally the team could adjust on the fly, it's probably hard to do with a "youngish" team (and in a new league at that).
RE: WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - crackpot - 12-14-2024
...last time we lost two games in a row, own a national championship.
Of course, we have to make the tourney first.
RE: WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - jonnyss - 12-14-2024
a team with so many excellent 3-point shooters needs to screen better to get those shooters open. we have never been great at using screens out at the 3-point line, but without dominant posts we need those screens more this year.
or the shooters need to use their screens better. hannah for example would use a screen, then shoot. this year we frequently screen at the top of the key but seem to be emphasizing the roll to the basket of the screener rather than a quick shot from the ball handler.
for example, yesterday we tried several 2-person - perhaps elevator? - screens with no success at all.
RE: 76lsjumb - BostonCard - 12-14-2024
(12-14-2024, 02:45 PM)crackpot Wrote:(12-14-2024, 02:30 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-13-2024, 09:53 PM)76lsjumb Wrote: Our game management and inability to run a decent inbounds play did. That, and a defense that decided to let one of their players shoot without any guarding… apparently kind of like what we were doing tonight.
To be fair, one reason why we struggled running the inbounds play is that the player that was supposed to receive the ball was getting mugged.
BC
...for maybe the first time this season?
At what point does the team know which refs are scheduled for the game? Days before, or whenever they show up? While ideally the team could adjust on the fly, it's probably hard to do with a "youngish" team (and in a new league at that).
I mean, you can’t count on a refs whistle to bail you out, and the fact that we were fouled doesn’t negate the fact that we missed a wide open player.
BC
RE: WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - Baez87 - 12-14-2024
I was one of the relatively few tried-and-true Cardinal fans who braved the elements (and commuter traffic from Palo Alto) Friday night to attend the Cal game. Generally, I tend to be optimistic, but I left my expectations at home, knowing that the Bears had beaten 19th ranked Alabama at the SEC/ACC WOMEN’S Challenge last week. Plus, my reading of 81Alum’s critique of our opponent’s team and season, served as a dire warning that we were about to play a much-improved Cal team.
As for Stanford’s team, the excitement followed by the letdown at LSU caused me to wonder how the team morale might hold up under the gut-punch of the overtime loss. It didn’t take long after the opening jump-ball to get an answer to my question about the cardinal status — their play was abysmal. There was a lot of bob-and-weave, but no punch! A real butt-kicking for three quarters!
It wasn’t until after the third quarter, in which Cal had gone on a thirty-point terror, that our team finally seemed to get their wakeup call! They came back out after the third-quarter break and started taking (and making) shots. They scrambled and began to play some team ball! The Cards outscored Cal in the fourth quarter with a 23 point performance, not by the Cal players taking their collective feet off the throttle (they seemed to delight at the smell of blood in dominating Stanford and gave their best) or by Coach Charmin Smith letting up (she was standing, urging her team forward, especially at the end). It helped that Kate put in some hungry underclassmen (Shay was undaunted by her last performance), and Demeter and others started creating their shots …and hitting!
Hopefully, the team and the coaches will be able to take the many lessons learned from this game and turn them into more deliberation and force in the tough season that lies ahead. They will have to take some losses this year and be ready to stay on their game despite difficulties and disappointments.
Congratulations go to Coach Carmine! She has built a hell of a team this year. She hasn’t been disrupted by distractions and defections or by coaching changes, however. Imagine, if, as with prior decades, we had had the incremental growth and maturity that would have come in building this year’s team from the five players that left our team prematurely over the last three years.
Still, the players and coaches that walked off the court together after the game last night is the team we have — they are our team! Our best step forward is to understand, accept, and support this group of players to become whatever they are destined to achieve.
A young team that is growing and developing, despite their record, is a team that is worth watching, supporting, and celebrating!! And, yes, sometimes one needs the perspective of a good night’s sleep to rally the necessary enthusiasm to realize all of this!
RE: WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - GK3 - 12-15-2024
(12-14-2024, 04:38 PM)Baez87 Wrote: I was one of the relatively few tried-and-true Cardinal fans who braved the elements (and commuter traffic from Palo Alto) Friday night to attend the Cal game. Generally, I tend to be optimistic, but I left my expectations at home, knowing that the Bears had beaten 19th ranked Alabama at the SEC/ACC WOMEN’S Challenge last week. Plus, my reading of 81Alum’s critique of our opponent’s team and season, served as a dire warning that we were about to play a much-improved Cal team.
As for Stanford’s team, the excitement followed by the letdown at LSU caused me to wonder how the team morale might hold up under the gut-punch of the overtime loss. It didn’t take long after the opening jump-ball to get an answer to my question about the cardinal status — their play was abysmal. There was a lot of bob-and-weave, but no punch! A real butt-kicking for three quarters!
It wasn’t until after the third quarter, in which Cal had gone on a thirty-point terror, that our team finally seemed to get their wakeup call! They came back out after the third-quarter break and started taking (and making) shots. They scrambled and began to play some team ball! The Cards outscored Cal in the fourth quarter with a 23 point performance, not by the Cal players taking their collective feet off the throttle (they seemed to delight at the smell of blood in dominating Stanford and gave their best) or by Coach Charmin Smith letting up (she was standing, urging her team forward, especially at the end). It helped that Kate put in some hungry underclassmen (Shay was undaunted by her last performance), and Demeter and others started creating their shots …and hitting!
Hopefully, the team and the coaches will be able to take the many lessons learned from this game and turn them into more deliberation and force in the tough season that lies ahead. They will have to take some losses this year and be ready to stay on their game despite difficulties and disappointments.
Congratulations go to Coach Carmine! She has built a hell of a team this year. She hasn’t been disrupted by distractions and defections or by coaching changes, however. Imagine, if, as with prior decades, we had had the incremental growth and maturity that would have come in building this year’s team from the five players that left our team prematurely over the last three years.
Still, the players and coaches that walked off the court together after the game last night is the team we have — they are our team! Our best step forward is to understand, accept, and support this group of players to become whatever they are destined to achieve.
A young team that is growing and developing, despite their record, is a team that is worth watching, supporting, and celebrating!! And, yes, sometimes one needs the perspective of a good night’s sleep to rally the necessary enthusiasm to realize all of this!
At this point it is fairly clear that we are pretty much a one trick pony. Make good looks from 3 hard to come by and we find it very hard to score. I also think we didn't do much to help ourselves with our very easy schedule. We didn't have to play grerat basketball to win most of our preseason games, now we are the point where very good basketball is required to stay in the game and we have little practice trying to meet that kind of challenge. I wonder if in future years we toughen up the early season schedule.
RE: WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - JohnR34231 - 12-15-2024
(12-15-2024, 11:59 AM)GK3 Wrote:(12-14-2024, 04:38 PM)Baez87 Wrote: I was one of the relatively few tried-and-true Cardinal fans who braved the elements (and commuter traffic from Palo Alto) Friday night to attend the Cal game. Generally, I tend to be optimistic, but I left my expectations at home, knowing that the Bears had beaten 19th ranked Alabama at the SEC/ACC WOMEN’S Challenge last week. Plus, my reading of 81Alum’s critique of our opponent’s team and season, served as a dire warning that we were about to play a much-improved Cal team.
As for Stanford’s team, the excitement followed by the letdown at LSU caused me to wonder how the team morale might hold up under the gut-punch of the overtime loss. It didn’t take long after the opening jump-ball to get an answer to my question about the cardinal status — their play was abysmal. There was a lot of bob-and-weave, but no punch! A real butt-kicking for three quarters!
It wasn’t until after the third quarter, in which Cal had gone on a thirty-point terror, that our team finally seemed to get their wakeup call! They came back out after the third-quarter break and started taking (and making) shots. They scrambled and began to play some team ball! The Cards outscored Cal in the fourth quarter with a 23 point performance, not by the Cal players taking their collective feet off the throttle (they seemed to delight at the smell of blood in dominating Stanford and gave their best) or by Coach Charmin Smith letting up (she was standing, urging her team forward, especially at the end). It helped that Kate put in some hungry underclassmen (Shay was undaunted by her last performance), and Demeter and others started creating their shots …and hitting!
Hopefully, the team and the coaches will be able to take the many lessons learned from this game and turn them into more deliberation and force in the tough season that lies ahead. They will have to take some losses this year and be ready to stay on their game despite difficulties and disappointments.
Congratulations go to Coach Carmine! She has built a hell of a team this year. She hasn’t been disrupted by distractions and defections or by coaching changes, however. Imagine, if, as with prior decades, we had had the incremental growth and maturity that would have come in building this year’s team from the five players that left our team prematurely over the last three years.
Still, the players and coaches that walked off the court together after the game last night is the team we have — they are our team! Our best step forward is to understand, accept, and support this group of players to become whatever they are destined to achieve.
A young team that is growing and developing, despite their record, is a team that is worth watching, supporting, and celebrating!! And, yes, sometimes one needs the perspective of a good night’s sleep to rally the necessary enthusiasm to realize all of this!
At this point it is fairly clear that we are pretty much a one trick pony. Make good looks from 3 hard to come by and we find it very hard to score. I also think we didn't do much to help ourselves with our very easy schedule. We didn't have to play grerat basketball to win most of our preseason games, now we are the point where very good basketball is required to stay in the game and we have little practice trying to meet that kind of challenge. I wonder if in future years we toughen up the early season schedule.
I thought Nunu was pretty good inside. Only problem with that is if you put a good defender on her (like Kal did) we are then back to the three pointers.