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Re: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends - washingtonismoney - 10-01-2014
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I assume you mean edge to Golson, yes?
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Yes.
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Where did you get fumble stats? I have been had trouble finding that.
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Play-by-play data from ESPN. I counted all fumbles, to be clear -- not just fumbles lost.
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The interception numbers are the same within the appropriate error bars.
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Almost certainly, but I don't really have the math.
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And I calculate Hogan has thrown 8 TDs in 100 attempts (8.00%) vs Golson's 11 in 135 (8.14%) - were you giving something different?
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Added in rushing TDs.
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Secondly, it reads to me that you have made a better argument against using these TD numbers than for it.
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I could've been clearer. In general I think it's easy to inflate TD totals. If you have a low TD total that may be a sign you're doing (or not doing) something well. But I'll admit I don't have enough data to judge.
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I wouldn't yadda, yadda, yadda that, but would point out those are basically identical numbers.
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"Yadda yadda yadda" was meant to suggest you could say the same thing about Shaw as I did Kelly. Or maybe there's a third (or fourth) factor driving the disjunction.
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Ouch.
I am a physicist. Years of training has made that sentence grate on me to an extent you likely cannot understand.
... though I guess I understand what you mean here.
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I have little math on my own and just rely on it based on my medical journalism. So I'll happily admit I've probably been sloppy. What I mean is, it's a bit strange that they have very similar statistics and yet their offenses have such variable outputs. It's not the running game -- N.D. only has 4.18 YPC. So what's the difference? Unsure. Other than the redzone issues. Which might be on... a lot of things, I guess. I'm a bit suspicious of anyone who thinks they've got an easy answer.
Re: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends - CTcard - 10-01-2014
(10-01-2014, 01:25 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:Quote:Ouch.
I am a physicist. Years of training has made that sentence grate on me to an extent you likely cannot understand.Â
I have little math on my own and just rely on it based on my medical journalism. So I'll happily admit I've probably been sloppy.
The observable bit is an old physics postulate that things that cannot be observed don't really exist - at least in any way that we can discuss in a scientific manner. On the other hand, a somewhat notable physicist named Albert Einstein (and many others) freaked out over quantum mechanics not because he thought it couldn't predict observables perfectly well, but because it implies something underlying about the universe that, though unobservable, he just couldn't handle [the whole God-dice-universe thing].
I admit it's probably not a relevant issue for the Golson vs Hogan discussion.
Quote:What I mean is, it's a bit strange that they have very similar statistics and yet their offenses have such variable outputs. It's not the running game -- N.D. only has 4.18 YPC. So what's the difference? Unsure. Other than the redzone issues. Which might be on... a lot of things, I guess. I'm a bit suspicious of anyone who thinks they've got an easy answer.
The difference isn't in the overall ability of the offenses to move the ball; adjusted for pace of play Stanford is perhaps better at that vs better opponents. The difference is the ability to score. That does seem to be the redzone (and near-redzone) issues, but as you noted that is not very specific and you shouldn't believe any proposed easy answers.
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And I should have caught the running TDs bit. Makes sense. I guess the denominator is number of throws plus number of rushing attempts?
Re: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends - g1313 - 10-01-2014
I think it will be a close game too, and unfortunately our kicking game has been a little shaky this year:
Brindza (ND) (who apparently also is the punter)
7 for 9, has only missed long ones
Made: 19, 29, 36, 37, 39, 43, 48
Missed: 39, 50
Williamson
4 for 8, one bad miss
Made: 32, 32, 33, 35
Missed: 26, 37, 46, 49
Re: the University of Dead Fake Girlfriends - Mick - 10-01-2014
(10-01-2014, 10:01 AM)Kathy link Wrote:[quote author=stupac2 link=topic=10753.msg100099#msg100099 date=1412179082]
So can we now agree that the terms can be used interchangeably?
NO
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I'm a little disappointed, Kathy. I expected larger font size with the capital letters.