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RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - paloalto - 12-01-2024
https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/volleyball-women/d1/2024
First tournament match Sacramento State on Friday 7:00pm depending on length of prior match at Maples.
I believe this match will be on ESPN+ as are all first round matches.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - M T - 12-01-2024
Some people can always find reasons for whatever choice they make (I'm still remembering early season denigration of the team).
How about recency? Stanford's 2nd to last loss was 7 weeks ago and last loss was 4.5 weeks ago. Louisville's 2nd to last loss was, uh, 5 days ago.
Louisville's last win over a top 25 team was 5 weeks ago. Stanford's last win over a top 5 team was yesterday (with a win over a top 25 team 5 days ago).
How about travel effects? Stanford's nearest-to-home loss was 2000 miles away. Louisville lost twice at home and lost the only game it played with a 3 hour time-difference (but they made sure it won't happen again this year, didn't they).
Counting losses as contributing to SOS is rather inane. You could have no wins but a great SOS.
Using NCAA's posted RPI ratings (top 50 only)
Stanford beat #3(H), #7(AF), #8(NF), #9(H), #11(H), #17(AF), #25(H), #25(AF), #26(NF), #27(AF), #28(AF), #35(H), #49(AF),
Louisville beat #4(H), #6(H), #7(A), #8(H), #9(AL), #25(H), #27(H), #28(A), #33(H), #37(A), #35(H),
[H: Home, A: Away, F: 2+ time zones away, L: < 100 miles]
Both teams had 5 top-11 wins with a slight edge to Louisville on their rankings, but an edge to Stanford on travel issues.
Stanford had two extra wins against top 50 teams.
That's hard to justify that Louisville had a better SOS.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - Farm93 - 12-01-2024
(12-01-2024, 07:45 PM)M T Wrote: Some people can always find reasons for whatever choice they make (I'm still remembering early season denigration of the team).As a Stanford fan I definitely had similar thoughts about the opponents, recency, travel and more.
How about recency? Stanford's 2nd to last loss was 7 weeks ago and last loss was 4.5 weeks ago. Louisville's 2nd to last loss was, uh, 5 days ago.
Louisville's last win over a top 25 team was 5 weeks ago. Stanford's last win over a top 5 team was yesterday (with a win over a top 25 team 5 days ago).
How about travel effects? Stanford's nearest-to-home loss was 2000 miles away. Louisville lost twice at home and lost the only game it played with a 3 hour time-difference (but they made sure it won't happen again this year, didn't they).
Counting losses as contributing to SOS is rather inane. You could have no wins but a great SOS.
Using NCAA's posted RPI ratings (top 50 only)
Stanford beat #3(H), #7(AF), #8(NF), #9(H), #11(H), #17(AF), #25(H), #25(AF), #26(NF), #27(AF), #28(AF), #35(H), #49(AF),
Louisville beat #4(H), #6(H), #7(A), #8(H), #9(AL), #25(H), #27(H), #28(A), #33(H), #37(A), #35(H),
[H: Home, A: Away, F: 2+ time zones away, L: < 100 miles]
Both teams had 5 top-11 wins with a slight edge to Louisville on their rankings, but an edge to Stanford on travel issues.
Stanford had two extra wins against top 50 teams.
That's hard to justify that Louisville had a better SOS.
And yet,
When you look at the RPI elements the worst loss has its own column to call that out, and that Miami loss locks bad on that table and was bad in reality. Yes, the HS style gym is a quirky environment and I am confident future Stanford squads will handle that better, but on paper....
When Stanford was at Louisville they beat Stanford with a rather convincing 3-0 win.
I feared Stanford would get the two seed the moment Louisville won that 3rd set because that meant Louisville swept Stanford at home and managed to win one set at Stanford.
Ultimately the loss to Miami was probably the bigger deal because Miami was a rather weak team and the other top teams just didn't have losses to teams at that level.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - paloalto - 12-01-2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlVSWd8uisg
While the committee chair went through some reasons for their decision regarding Stanford or Louisville as a #1 regional seed I felt she could have given a better explanation. She said they watched the Stanford/Louisville match. It seems to me the committee members wouldn't spend so much time on one match if they didn't think it would be an important factor.
In many televised matches I listened to announcers say how important the KPI would be this year. Stanford had a better KPI than Louisville. I would have liked for the committee chair to address how important or not important the KPI was to the committee.
"The KPI is an enhanced selection criteria compared to the current RPI system. The RPI rankings does not factor items like margin of victory or match location into its mathematical equation."
Oh well, I'm looking forward to an exciting volleyball tournament and remain optimistic about Stanford doing well.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - johnbar - 12-02-2024
I haven't watched this yet, but here is another interview with the committee chair (and others):
https://volleyballmag.com/post-ncaa-volleyball-selection-show-zoom-120124/
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - paloalto - 12-05-2024
First and second rounds run from today through Saturday. Reports of upsets would be appreciated; probably not many if any seeded teams in first round but some upsets possible in second round.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - Jamesy - 12-05-2024
Loyola Chicago swept BYU, the 5-seed in our bracket. Won't likely make a difference to us since they would play Louisville.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - johnbar - 12-05-2024
Ole Miss beat the FSU 3-2, #7 seed in the Penn State region.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - johnbar - 12-06-2024
SF Chronicle's article:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/college/article/stanford-volleyball-heads-ncaa-tournament-as-19958027.php
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - M T - 12-06-2024
(12-06-2024, 09:33 AM)johnbar Wrote: SF Chronicle's article:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/sports/college/article/stanford-volleyball-heads-ncaa-tournament-as-19958027.php
Quote:“It was pretty brutal,” Rubin said. “We thought Louisville-Notre Dame was going to be the worst one, and then the Miami-Florida (State) one came around, and it honestly kept getting worse. I think we learned a lot about ourselves and it made us stronger. But it wasn’t what we expected.”
No surprise to me. As I said, when you factor in (far) away games, I would say that Stanford had the better record. Unfortunately, if Stanford and Louisville meet again, it will again be a far away game.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - TonyLima - 12-06-2024
Watching the WA-LMU(7) match and I gotta ask. How did LMU get a 7 seed?
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - paloalto - 12-06-2024
LMU finally wins first match. Stanford match will probably start around 7:40pm.
Missouri beats SMU on SMU's court.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - M T - 12-06-2024
(12-06-2024, 08:12 PM)paloalto Wrote: LMU finally wins first match. Stanford match will probably start around 7:40pm.
Waiting for the Stanford match to start. The graphic on ESPN+ is of a reflective building with clouds floating by in the sky. The reflections are also of the same clouds, but not moving as they would reflect. Irritates my brain to see a non-physical depiction.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - paloalto - 12-06-2024
Stanford up 15-10 in first set.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - BostonCard - 12-06-2024
25-19 first set. We should be doing better.
BC
25-17 second set.
BC
76lsjumb - 76lsjumb - 12-06-2024
It’s a little bizarre here. The crowd size isn’t great, but it’s passable. What’s weird is that, literally, it goes dead silent immediately prior to every serve. The mausoleum is noisier than Maples at this match.
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - martyup - 12-06-2024
ALL RIGHT NOW!!!
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - BostonCard - 12-06-2024
25-19 third set.
BC
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - johnbar - 12-07-2024
(12-01-2024, 04:52 PM)johnbar Wrote:
BTW, I realize the odds for this are infinitesimal, but if Louisville were to lose in the first or second round, Stanford could then host the regionals.
Slim, but not infinitesimal. UNI just took the first set from Louisville, 28-26
RE: Stanford Women’s Volleyball 2024 - johnbar - 12-07-2024
(12-07-2024, 04:49 PM)johnbar Wrote:(12-01-2024, 04:52 PM)johnbar Wrote:
BTW, I realize the odds for this are infinitesimal, but if Louisville were to lose in the first or second round, Stanford could then host the regionals.
Slim, but not infinitesimal. UNI just took the first set from Louisville, 28-26
UNI now up 2 sets to 1. 4th set just started.