RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
crackpot - 02-18-2024
Really did look like TVO had Juju's number, holding her to 10 fewer points than her average. If only OSU's shooting wasn't so bad.
If only OSU's shooting wasn't so bad. But at least it wasn't a blowout and should help their NET rating.
Now we just have to take care of business.
Mudhead -
Mudhead - 02-18-2024
I held my nose and rooted for USC. It was hard and I know it increased my chances of going to hell. Still, an Oregon State loss all but insured we will be regular season PAC 12 champs. Had Oregon State won out and we lost only OSU , we would have “tied”… however, OSU would most likely have won the tiebreaker as they have a win over Colorado and we are 0-1 vs Colorado. Thus the tie breaker and the number one seed in the PAC 12 tournament would have gone to OSU.
So I sold a piece of my soul to help our ladies prevail.
BUT we absolutely must prevail against the Arizonas next week . I do not believe there is any way in hell we could lose to Oregon. Two wins next week makes the OSU game meaningless for PAC 12 title and #1 seed in tourney.
May I be forgiven for my abominable behavior in rooting for USC.
RE: Mudhead -
WBB fan - 02-18-2024
(02-18-2024, 04:39 PM)Mudhead Wrote: I held my nose and rooted for USC. It was hard and I know it increased my chances of going to hell. Still, an Oregon State loss all but insured we will be regular season PAC 12 champs. Had Oregon State won out and we lost only OSU , we would have “tied”… however, OSU would most likely have won the tiebreaker as they have a win over Colorado and we are 0-1 vs Colorado. Thus the tie breaker and the number one seed in the PAC 12 tournament would have gone to OSU.
So I sold a piece of my soul to help our ladies prevail.
BUT we absolutely must prevail against the Arizonas next week . I do not believe there is any way in hell we could lose to Oregon. Two wins next week makes the OSU game meaningless for PAC 12 title and #1 seed in tourney.
May I be forgiven for my abominable behavior in rooting for USC.
My thoughts, precisely!
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
joemontes - 02-18-2024
Oregon State's loss to USC pretty much sealed the deal for Stanford
as long as the Cardinal takes care of business vs Arizona, ASU and
Oregon, which they should, capable of blowout wins vs all three.
But for me, having had the luxury of the easiest PAC 12 schedule
among the PAC12 upper echelon teams, I want to see Stanford:
(1) compete at their very best at Oregon State (with BEERS playing)
in two weeks.
(2) then, I want them to be battle tested during the PAC12 tourney,
in preparation for the NCAA tournament, by hopefully facing
two from the group of Colorado, UCLA (with BETTS) and USC,
but preferably UCLA (with BETTS) and USC.
Baez87 -
Baez87 - 02-18-2024
The final PAC-12 Tourney promises to be very competitive this year. If the season was over today, and if we won out in the tourney, we would play:
• the winner of Washington & CAL,
• the winner of Utah & Colorado,
• and the winner of (UCLA VS USC) vs ORE STATE.
Undoubtedly these pairings will not hold, but it’s fun to speculate just the same.
https://static.pac-12.com/sports/basketball-w/pdf/23-24/2024_WBBT_Bracket.pdf
RE: Baez87 -
81alum - 02-18-2024
(02-18-2024, 09:37 PM)Baez87 Wrote: The final PAC-12 Tourney promises to be very competitive this year. If the seasonal was over today, and if we won out in the tourney, we would play:
• the winner of Washington & CAL,
• the winner of Utah & Colorado,
• and the winner of (UCLA VS USC) vs ORE STATE.
Undoubtedly these pairings will not hold, but it’s fun to speculate just the same.
https://static.pac-12.com/sports/basketball-w/pdf/23-24/2024_WBBT_Bracket.pdf
I get the feeling that unless USC and Colorado meet each other before they get to us, we will have to play them and beat them both to win the final Pac 12 tourney. And given that they have both beaten us, it will be a terrific challenge.
Next weekend the mountain school play the SoCal schools in LA. Those two games are going to go a long way toward determining 2-3-4 in the tourney.
Oregon state takes its trip to the Washington schools, and I would expect them to be favored to win both.
Final weekend, the SoCal school host the Arizona schools, so I doubt either of them to lose on that weekend.
Here is my prediction:
1) Stanford
2) Oregon State
3) USC
4) Colorado
5) UCLA
6) Utah
If that holds up and we get past our first game, then it might well be Colorado in the semis and, if we survive, then USC in the finals.
RE: Baez87 -
liveoak - 02-19-2024
(02-18-2024, 11:55 PM)81alum Wrote: (02-18-2024, 09:37 PM)Baez87 Wrote: The final PAC-12 Tourney promises to be very competitive this year. If the seasonal was over today, and if we won out in the tourney, we would play:
• the winner of Washington & CAL,
• the winner of Utah & Colorado,
• and the winner of (UCLA VS USC) vs ORE STATE.
Undoubtedly these pairings will not hold, but it’s fun to speculate just the same.
https://static.pac-12.com/sports/basketball-w/pdf/23-24/2024_WBBT_Bracket.pdf
I get the feeling that unless USC and Colorado meet each other before they get to us, we will have to play them and beat them both to win the final Pac 12 tourney. And given that they have both beaten us, it will be a terrific challenge.
Next weekend the mountain school play the SoCal schools in LA. Those two games are going to go a long way toward determining 2-3-4 in the tourney.
Oregon state takes its trip to the Washington schools, and I would expect them to be favored to win both.
Final weekend, the SoCal school host the Arizona schools, so I doubt either of them to lose on that weekend.
Here is my prediction:
1) Stanford
2) Oregon State
3) USC
4) Colorado
5) UCLA
6) Utah
If that holds up and we get past our first game, then it might well be Colorado in the semis and, if we survive, then USC in the finals.
We could also see UCLA with Betts (#5 seed) beat Colorado, then play us. Who would you prefer of that matchup...Colorado or UCLA with Betts?
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
M T - 02-19-2024
Colorado. Beating them evens the season record.
But we should be thinking further….. Who will we meet in the regional and where?
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
Spiny_Norman - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 01:52 AM)M T Wrote: Colorado. Beating them evens the season record.
But we should be thinking further….. Who will we meet in the regional and where?
"Where" for Rounds 1 and 2 is easy. Stanford will host.
But I think your question is beyond that. The regionals will be located in Portland and Albany. The highest seeded P12 team will be in Portland. Beyond that, it's a crap shoot. There are so many strong P12 teams that 2 or 3 among Stanford, OSU, USC, UCLA, Colorado and Utah will be sent to Albany.
In the NCAA's early reveal of the bracket that was released last week, Stanford, Oregon State and Colorado were assigned to Portland. USC and UCLA were assigned to Albany.
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-women/article/2024-02-15/south-carolina-stanford-ohio-state-and-colorado-earn-top-seeds-first-di-wbb
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
M T - 02-19-2024
Exactly, how tough will it be to play OSU in Portland?
It is not far-fetched to think Stanford may have 2 more losses on Selection Sunday and be an at-large selection. In that situation, I would not want to play OSU in Portland.
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
Spiny_Norman - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 12:26 PM)M T Wrote: Exactly, how tough will it be to play OSU in Portland?
It is not far-fetched to think Stanford may have 2 more losses on Selection Sunday and be an at-large selection. In that situation, I would not want to play OSU in Portland.
There will be 2 regional brackets assigned to Portland, Portland 3 and Portland 4. It is possible that Stanford and OSU could both be assigned to Portland but in different brackets.
Would playing OSU in Portland be tougher than playing them at Gill Coliseum (a small, loud on-campus arena) in Corvallis?
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
Card10Fan - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 12:26 PM)M T Wrote: Exactly, how tough will it be to play OSU in Portland?
It is not far-fetched to think Stanford may have 2 more losses on Selection Sunday and be an at-large selection. In that situation, I would not want to play OSU in Portland.
No. Even if we lost at OSU, we will all likely still be outright Pac 12 champions. I don't see us losing to Arizona, AZ State, or Oregon. Even if we lose in the Pac12 tourney, we are still very much a #1 seed or high #2 seed come Selection Sunday. The Pac12 is the best conference this season and winning the regular season sets us up very well for a top seed. The committee does NOT put a #1 and #2 seeds from the same conference in the same NCAA bracket.
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
joemontes - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 12:26 PM)M T Wrote: Exactly, how tough will it be to play OSU in Portland?
It is not far-fetched to think Stanford may have 2 more losses on Selection Sunday and be an at-large selection. In that situation, I would not want to play OSU in Portland.
In the absence of BEERS in Oregon State's loss to USC yesterday,
Timea GARDINER's suddenly unleashed an impressive all-around offensive game.
I knew she could hit it from beyond the arc, but what really struck me
was how adeptly she maneuvered to score inside the lane with her arsenal
of post up move against the likes of 6'4 shotblocker Rayah MARSHALL and
6'6 Clarice AKUNWAFO.
Now, I finally see why she was the #6 overall recruit in the Class of 2022.
Jskass -
Jskass - 02-19-2024
Psyched I bought our tickets at OSU a week ago!
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
M T - 02-19-2024
Suppose that the top seeds from the Pac-12 are Stanford, UCLA, USC. Say Stanford is put in one of the Portland regionals. Would the other two be shipped east? I don’t think so.
Now where do Colorado and OSU wind up? Ship one to the east, but I’d bet OSU plays as the 2nd highest PAC-12 team in one of the Portland regionals.
5 teams in 4 regionals means 2 have to overlap, and it will mosr likely be in Portland.
RE: Jskass -
WBB fan - 02-19-2024
(02-19-2024, 08:43 PM)Jskass Wrote: Psyched I bought our tickets at OSU a week ago!
I bought mine a month ago, not great seats, but not totally lousy. Glad to have them. My seats for the Oregon game are better, no surprise.
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
Card10Fan - 02-20-2024
If we hold as a #1 seed, which potential #2 seeds would we want to face and not want to play?
I would say yes to Virginia Tech and NC State. I don't love a matchup with Texas. (they are physical and hard to score against although I think we can beat them). Ohio State would be a tough matchup (with how they press) if they fall to a #2 seed. I never want to play Uconn in the NCAA tourney unless it's in a Final 4.
If we are a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney and a #2 seed from the Pac12 can't be in our same bracket, it does narrow the potential matchups down to a handful of teams if the higher seeds win their matchups.
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
TheFarm07 - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 10:40 AM)Card10Fan Wrote: If we hold as a #1 seed, which potential #2 seeds would we want to face and not want to play?
I would say yes to Virginia Tech and NC State. I don't love a matchup with Texas. (they are physical and hard to score against although I think we can beat them). Ohio State would be a tough matchup (with how they press) if they fall to a #2 seed. I never want to play Uconn in the NCAA tourney unless it's in a Final 4.
If we are a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney and a #2 seed from the Pac12 can't be in our same bracket, it does narrow the potential matchups down to a handful of teams if the higher seeds win their matchups.
Agreed, there's not many teams that we would be matched up with if we ended up as a #1 seed and the committee is avoiding putting a conference foe in our region as the #2 seed.
The universe of possibilities at this point would be between Iowa, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Texas, N.C. State and UConn, barring an unexpected late season surge from another team.
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
WBB fan - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 12:43 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote: (02-20-2024, 10:40 AM)Card10Fan Wrote: If we hold as a #1 seed, which potential #2 seeds would we want to face and not want to play?
I would say yes to Virginia Tech and NC State. I don't love a matchup with Texas. (they are physical and hard to score against although I think we can beat them). Ohio State would be a tough matchup (with how they press) if they fall to a #2 seed. I never want to play Uconn in the NCAA tourney unless it's in a Final 4.
If we are a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney and a #2 seed from the Pac12 can't be in our same bracket, it does narrow the potential matchups down to a handful of teams if the higher seeds win their matchups.
Agreed, there's not many teams that we would be matched up with if we ended up as a #1 seed and the committee is avoiding putting a conference foe in our region as the #2 seed.
The universe of possibilities at this point would be between Iowa, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Texas, N.C. State and UConn, barring an unexpected late season surge from another team.
Creme's latest bracketology (today) has Texas as our #2 in the Portland region. He has Oregon State as the #2 in Albany vs South Carolina as #1 in the region
RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season -
BillBradley - 02-20-2024
(02-20-2024, 12:43 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote: (02-20-2024, 10:40 AM)Card10Fan Wrote: If we hold as a #1 seed, which potential #2 seeds would we want to face and not want to play?
I would say yes to Virginia Tech and NC State. I don't love a matchup with Texas. (they are physical and hard to score against although I think we can beat them). Ohio State would be a tough matchup (with how they press) if they fall to a #2 seed. I never want to play Uconn in the NCAA tourney unless it's in a Final 4.
If we are a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney and a #2 seed from the Pac12 can't be in our same bracket, it does narrow the potential matchups down to a handful of teams if the higher seeds win their matchups.
Agreed, there's not many teams that we would be matched up with if we ended up as a #1 seed and the committee is avoiding putting a conference foe in our region as the #2 seed.
The universe of possibilities at this point would be between Iowa, Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Texas, N.C. State and UConn, barring an unexpected late season surge from another team.
I also like Va Tech and NC St. I also like Iowa. Even though Clark will get 30, we have such an advantage inside I don't think they can stop us. I think we can handle Texas without Harmon. I don't like our matchup against Ohio St because they have a wicked press that could be problematic.