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RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Embo - 09-26-2021
(09-26-2021, 09:42 AM)Giants Wrote:(09-26-2021, 08:33 AM)Goose Wrote: Next four games are the critical ones IMHO. The Rockies and Dbacks (especially the Dbacks) are "weaker" teams in the league. The Giants all year have made hay by beating teams they should beat. These are teams they should beat. They need to do so. It is probable that the Giants need to win at least 4 and probably 5 of the remaining 7 games. The last LA loss to the Dbacks was of "immense proportions". If the Giants don't do the same, I like our chances a lot!
LA v. AZ/Colo. 28-9 (1 to play)
SF v. AZ/Colo. 28-6 (4 to play)
Dodgers play 3 vs Padres and then 3 vs Milwaukee. The Brewers are up by 7 with 7 to play. Brewers will have long clinched before their trip to LA. Their only goal will be to keep their regulars rested.
The Padres, on the other hand, despite being eliminated last night, should have plenty of motivation. Pride should make them want to upset, even in some small way, the Dodgers' playoff scenario. (See Morgan, Joe, October 2, 1982)
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Goose - 09-26-2021
(09-26-2021, 12:25 PM)Embo Wrote: Dodgers play 3 vs Padres and then 3 vs Milwaukee. The Brewers are up by 7 with 7 to play. Brewers will have long clinched before their trip to LA. Their only goal will be to keep their regulars rested.The Padres could also be pretty motivated against the Giants for the same reasons. I guess we could consider that a push, as we both play them three games. I would be reasonably optimistic if we are 2 up with 3 to play. I also don't think the Brewers want to let LA just thump them, because it would be probable they will play again pretty soon for more important stakes. The goal for the Giants of course is to have it not matter what LA does. Winning the next 4 will go a long way toward that goal.
The Padres, on the other hand, despite being eliminated last night, should have plenty of motivation. Pride should make them want to upset, even in some small way, the Dodgers' playoff scenario. (See Morgan, Joe, October 2, 1982)
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Embo - 09-26-2021
I was biting my nails with the score tied 2-2 top of the ninth, as anything can happen in Coors. Then home run number 237!
I would have loved to see the Dodgers' dugout reaction when they put the "6" up on the out of town scoreboard.
Magic number now 5
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Phogge - 09-26-2021
Shooting pregame at Levi’s. Took break and saw the crooked number. Screamed. People around me thought I was having a stroke.
What a ball club.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - lex24 - 09-26-2021
Niners not going anywhere with Garrapolo. But look at how all the rookie quarterbacks fared today. So I’m not really sure you can even pull him and hope to have a difference with Lance.
(09-26-2021, 03:56 PM)Phogge Wrote: Shooting pregame at Levi’s. Took break and saw the crooked number. Screamed. People around me thought I was having a stroke.
What a ball club.
LOL. Let’s hope Belt isn’t badly hurt.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - BostonCard - 09-26-2021
Now the magic number is 5.
BC
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - lex24 - 09-27-2021
(09-26-2021, 06:54 PM)lex24 Wrote: Niners not going anywhere with Garrapolo. But look at how all the rookie quarterbacks fared today. So I’m not really sure you can even pull him and hope to have a difference with Lance.
(09-26-2021, 03:56 PM)Phogge Wrote: Shooting pregame at Levi’s. Took break and saw the crooked number. Screamed. People around me thought I was having a stroke.
What a ball club.
LOL. Let’s hope Belt isn’t badly hurt.
Fracture in left thumb. Bummer. Feel as bad for him as I do the team. Next man up.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - BobK - 09-27-2021
Terrible news
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - old spanish trail - 09-27-2021
Rats. I'm going to pretend he was about to go in to one of his slumps.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - qwerty49 - 09-28-2021
Belt was one of the hottest hitters around recently. 8HRs in 15 games, .386.
Really a bummer.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Phogge - 09-28-2021
Ruf coming off the list Thursday. Takes Belt's roster spot.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - teejers1 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 12:04 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Belt was one of the hottest hitters around recently. 8HRs in 15 games, .386.
Really a bummer.
Belt has to be team MVP this year, no? Crawford was great; Posey very good; and Wade clutch. But Belt was the best player for the Giants this season. Really hope he plays more this season (because that will mean Giants have fared well in the playoffs).
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - qwerty49 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 12:14 PM)Phogge Wrote: Ruf coming off the list Thursday. Takes Belt's roster spot.
MadBum pitches Thurs. But not for us.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - BobK - 09-28-2021
In my mind Crawford is easily the MVP.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - DC 86 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 01:02 PM)BobK Wrote: In my mind Crawford is easily the MVP.
Crawford was the Giants MVP without question this year.
1. He's played 35 more games than Belt (obviously will finish with at least 40 more games played).
2. Crawford plays the most important defensive position and Belt plays the least important defensive position. Belt has hit slightly better (159 OPS+ vs 142 OPS+) but he would need to have hit dramatically better to overcome the difference in defensive contribution.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - teejers1 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 04:04 PM)DC 86 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 01:02 PM)BobK Wrote: In my mind Crawford is easily the MVP.
Crawford was the Giants MVP without question this year.
1. He's played 35 more games than Belt (obviously will finish with at least 40 more games played).
2. Crawford plays the most important defensive position and Belt plays the least important defensive position. Belt has hit slightly better (159 OPS+ vs 142 OPS+) but he would need to have hit dramatically better to overcome the difference in defensive contribution.
I hope you guys are right and that the last 6 games don't reinforce the case for Belt as MVP.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - DC 86 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 04:44 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 04:04 PM)DC 86 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 01:02 PM)BobK Wrote: In my mind Crawford is easily the MVP.
Crawford was the Giants MVP without question this year.
1. He's played 35 more games than Belt (obviously will finish with at least 40 more games played).
2. Crawford plays the most important defensive position and Belt plays the least important defensive position. Belt has hit slightly better (159 OPS+ vs 142 OPS+) but he would need to have hit dramatically better to overcome the difference in defensive contribution.
I hope you guys are right and that the last 6 games don't reinforce the case for Belt as MVP.
Just because he's not the MVP doesn't mean it's not a big loss for the Giants, definitely hurts a lot for this week and playoffs.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Giants - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 05:04 PM)DC 86 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 04:44 PM)teejers1 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 04:04 PM)DC 86 Wrote:(09-28-2021, 01:02 PM)BobK Wrote: In my mind Crawford is easily the MVP.
Crawford was the Giants MVP without question this year.
1. He's played 35 more games than Belt (obviously will finish with at least 40 more games played).
2. Crawford plays the most important defensive position and Belt plays the least important defensive position. Belt has hit slightly better (159 OPS+ vs 142 OPS+) but he would need to have hit dramatically better to overcome the difference in defensive contribution.
I hope you guys are right and that the last 6 games don't reinforce the case for Belt as MVP.
Just because he's not the MVP doesn't mean it's not a big loss for the Giants, definitely hurts a lot for this week and playoffs.
While I agree with choice of Crawford as the Giants MVP, I think you did a disservice to Belt by referring to first base as the least important defensive position. Every season, Belt saves a quite a few potential errors by the other infielders with his ability to scoop or reach out to snag wayward throws. A skilled first baseman is of more value that a skilled left fielder (in my opinion, the least important defensive position).
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Phogge - 09-28-2021
Belt on 10 day IL. Estrada brought up.
RE: [merged] Giants/Niners 2021 thread - Red80 - 09-28-2021
(09-28-2021, 05:46 PM)Phogge Wrote: Belt on 10 day IL. Estrada brought up.
Phogge, check your private messages!