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RE: UW Game Thread - BostonCard - 11-03-2018

On our second to last drive, which took 1 min 39 sec, we got 28 yards on a Love run on first and ten from the 20. I couldn’t believe we were dumb enough to run needing two scores with 5 minutes to go, until I was screaming “go, go, go!”

That being said, 8 yards from the end zone, why not throw to Colby Parkinson or Kaden Smith. I realize we don’t have the JJAW box out play to go to, but it’s not like we don’t have receivers who can go up and catch it in the end zone.

BC

(11-03-2018, 09:39 PM)Vandelay Wrote:
(11-03-2018, 09:35 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Hum. We lost by four. Can someone explain the three straight runs between the tackles after 1st and goal at the 8? Not getting a touchdown there cost us the game. . . .

Made no sense. Esp with Huskies having no answer for Smith and Parkinson. Shaw still thinks that this is a running team.

The stats will say that Costello dropped back to pass 44 times and we ran 22. That doesn’t seem like a running team to me. Washington ran 45 times (actually a few times less since that includes at least one Browning Sack) and passed 27.

Just saying.

BC

RE: UW Game Thread - cardcrimson - 11-03-2018

BC, don't you find the two posts above somewhat contradictory?

RE: UW Game Thread - nik6 - 11-03-2018

I am nervous about the future of Stanford football. As a team we are no longer built to be a run first team, which is even more true next year. I think Shaw has shown us that he is too stubborn to play to his personnel. Additionally, Stanford's pound the ball mentality worked well when we had a stout defense. Then it became a matter of controlling the field position battle.

Our defense is just not good enough to consistently get quick stops. Until we can build a D-line I don't see it happening.

RE: UW Game Thread - 81alum - 11-03-2018

Any word on injuries? JJ? Jet Toner?

I was so depressed after the first half I almost didn't watch the second, but my loyalty forced me back, and we made a game out of it.

The defense played a little better in the second half, and I'm proud of our offense coming so far back despite losing JJAW.

We have to be careful that things don't completely unravel in coming weeks--we need to win out to save some respectability, and our remaining opponents are looking better than they once did.

RE: UW Game Thread - CowboyIndian - 11-03-2018

(11-03-2018, 10:47 PM)81alum Wrote: The defense played a little better in the second half,

I'm glad there's some room left on this board for understatement.

RE: UW Game Thread - Duck Tears - 11-03-2018

(11-03-2018, 09:28 PM)PVTree Wrote: We had plenty of time and messed it up by substituting, giving Washington an opportunity to sub and waste time.

POOR game management.

The refs cost us six seconds on the final drive.

The decision to sub out Parkinson for St. Brown cost 28 - TWENTY EIGHT! - seconds.

RE: UW Game Thread - Austroturf - 11-04-2018

(11-03-2018, 09:42 PM)BostonCard Wrote: The stats will say that Costello dropped back to pass 44 times and we ran 22. That doesn’t seem like a running team to me. Washington ran 45 times (actually a few times less since that includes at least one Browning Sack) and passed 27.

Just saying.

BC

In my view, it's less a question of the quantity of runs vs. passes as the timing (as you point out above when we had 1st and goal at the 8 and a chance to pull within 3 points, why run three fruitless times for a total of 5 yards, then kick the FG?).

The foundation for our loss vs. the Huskies was laid in the first quarter. We had three possessions and went 1) run, pass, run, punt; 2) run, run, pass, punt; 3) and already trailing 14-0, we then went into full-on pass mode and went pass, pass, pass, INT to set up Washington's third TD in three possessions. We amassed a TOP of 04:41 during that quarter and trailed 21-0 after 17:40 of the first half.

We started passing a whole lot more in the 2nd Q, but, after a 2nd INT, had no points to show for the 24 plays and 117 yards we generated.

The 3rd quarter was our most productive: we had two possessions and scored on both, with a good mix of running (8 plays) and passing (7 plays), though most of the yards came from passing.

Then, in our next two possessions, the inclination to run crept back into the mix and produced: 1) run, run, pass (IC), punt and 2) pass, run, run, run, FG. After this possession (the 10th overall), we trailed by 7 points and, when time was getting tight, only had three points to show for two opportunities with the ball.

From this point on, we only ran 3 more times and produced one more TD to pull within 4 (after the missed PAT). Too little, too late. And possessions 9 and 10 to start off the 4th quarter were wasted opportunities to put up badly needed points.

Also, our YPP in the running game amounted again to a paltry 3.3, which is among the worst on the FBS level. Our 77 yards of rushing further drops our average-per-game this season and will cause us to slide down further in the rankings. So even though the quantity of running plays was down, the timing of those plays and the overall effectiveness were questionable.

On the other hand, it is incredible that we were even in the game after our total collapse in the first 17 minutes and our negative turnover balance of -3. I had said we would have a chance to win if the D showed up and if we won the turnover battle. The D showed up about twenty minutes too late; and we lost the turnover battle in a big way. In some respects, it is stunning that the final margin of victory was not higher and that we had a realistic comeback opportunity. Another frustrating loss.

RE: UW Game Thread - cardcrimson - 11-04-2018

Our defense did indeed play a lot better in the second half. That said, I think Peterson helped a lot by doing his own version of a turtle when he went conservative in the third quarter.

RE: UW Game Thread - scorecard - 11-04-2018

(11-03-2018, 11:12 PM)Duck Tears Wrote:
(11-03-2018, 09:28 PM)PVTree Wrote: We had plenty of time and messed it up by substituting, giving Washington an opportunity to sub and waste time.

POOR game management.

The refs cost us six seconds on the final drive.

The decision to sub out Parkinson for St. Brown cost 28 - TWENTY EIGHT! - seconds.

Why we didn't just run up and spike the ball, and then sub, is beyond me. That clock mismanagement killed me. There WAS plenty of time, and we were gashing their defense at that time.

The clock ticking away was the other part that drove me crazy about running 3 times from the 8 yard line when we had limited time to make a comeback. How much time did we lose there?

RE: UW Game Thread - Austroturf - 11-04-2018

(11-04-2018, 08:39 AM)cardcrimson Wrote: Our defense did indeed play a lot better in the second half. That said, I think Peterson helped a lot by doing his own version of a turtle when he went conservative in the third quarter.

Yes, he was doing his version of Coach Turtleson.

RE: UW Game Thread - Goose - 11-04-2018

(11-04-2018, 05:26 AM)Austroturf Wrote: The D showed up about twenty minutes too late; and we lost the turnover battle in a big way. In some respects, it is stunning that the final margin of victory was not higher and that we had a realistic comeback opportunity. Another frustrating loss.

I am surprised nobody has noticed this, but Washington "turtled" big time in the second half. Who wouldn't? They were way ahead and our offense had shown nothing. Our defense appeared to play better in the second half at least partially because they weren't seeing the entire UW playbook. They pretty much knew what was coming. Washington wasn't going for it on fourth and 11. I don't know where to find the relevant statistics, but I would guess the run-pass ratio in the second half was at least 4 to 1.

RE: UW Game Thread - Austroturf - 11-04-2018

(11-04-2018, 01:37 PM)Goose Wrote:
(11-04-2018, 05:26 AM)Austroturf Wrote: The D showed up about twenty minutes too late; and we lost the turnover battle in a big way. In some respects, it is stunning that the final margin of victory was not higher and that we had a realistic comeback opportunity. Another frustrating loss.
I am surprised nobody has noticed this, but Washington "turtled" big time in the second half. Who wouldn't? They were way ahead and our offense had shown nothing. Our defense appeared to play better in the second half at least partially because they weren't seeing the entire UW playbook. They pretty much knew what was coming. Washington wasn't going for it on fourth and 11. I don't know where to find the relevant statistics, but I would guess the run-pass ratio in the second half was at least 4 to 1.

Yes, Coach Pete did turtle and nearly paid for it. I could dig those statistics out on run vs. pass in the second half, but I am weary of statistics at this point. in the day. Maybe tomorrow....