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Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Bruce Wang - 01-15-2014

Funniest thing I've ever read about The Who.  In the wake of their Super Bowl Performance, millennials everywhere wondered "Who are these old guys and why are they playing CSI theme songs?"

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Bruce Wang - 01-15-2014

Funniest thing I've ever read about The Who.  In the wake of their Super Bowl Performance, millennials everywhere wondered "Who are these old guys and why are they playing CSI theme songs?"

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Bruce Wang - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 08:31 AM)Stymie link Wrote:Given that, I'd substitute Clapton for Page

Funny quote from Clapton:  When asked how it felt to be the best guitarist in the world?  His response "I don't know. Ask Prince."

The reason I wouldn't put Clapton or Prince in the SuperBand is that they are really solo artists, whereas Jimmy Page is a band guy.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Bruce Wang - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 08:31 AM)Stymie link Wrote:Given that, I'd substitute Clapton for Page

Funny quote from Clapton:  When asked how it felt to be the best guitarist in the world?  His response "I don't know. Ask Prince."

The reason I wouldn't put Clapton or Prince in the SuperBand is that they are really solo artists, whereas Jimmy Page is a band guy.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - stupac2 - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 08:45 AM)Publius link Wrote:Funniest thing I've ever read about The Who.  In the wake of their Super Bowl Performance, idiots everywhere wondered "Who are these old guys and why are they playing CSI theme songs?"

As someone who's nominally a millennial (I think, anyway, it's tough to keep up and it seems like, at this point, every "generation" spans about 6 months) I feel the need to fix that for you. Everyone at the party I went to knew they were The Who, and were mostly just amused that they played all the CSI songs.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - stupac2 - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 08:45 AM)Publius link Wrote:Funniest thing I've ever read about The Who.  In the wake of their Super Bowl Performance, idiots everywhere wondered "Who are these old guys and why are they playing CSI theme songs?"

As someone who's nominally a millennial (I think, anyway, it's tough to keep up and it seems like, at this point, every "generation" spans about 6 months) I feel the need to fix that for you. Everyone at the party I went to knew they were The Who, and were mostly just amused that they played all the CSI songs.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Leftcoast - 01-15-2014

Undiscovered Van Morrison, early Who and The Kinks, Woodstock live , 60s Winterland ?

I clearly was born out of time and want to comeback as 1960s Stymie.

P.S.  The a Police, early U2, Rush, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, the Clash, early Pretenders are all in my history.  The 70s weren't all bad.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - oman - 01-15-2014

No.  The 70s were not all bad.

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Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - oman - 01-15-2014

The comment above about "undiscovered Van Morrison" made me think of a few years back and the Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her" started playing in some store I was browsing, and I suddenly realized that there were tons of songs that I would never hear ever again.  Ever!
 
So whenever I discover something I have never heard by an artist I like, it's always wonderful.

Been wearing out Gregg Allman's Laid Back album, which I just discovered a few months ago.  I was a little after the Allman Bros and the deaths of Barry Oakley and Duane, but I have to say there have ended up my favorite band.

This is just beautiful stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFQ6DqnnAMs

I would love to have seen how things worked out if Dickey Bett's countrified softness could have played against Duane's guitar for a decade or so longer.  Although someone else would have likely died.

Dickey Bett's Highway Call has been another recent discovery.

Takes about four minutes to get going...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7qo7Lb72Q

Youtube is a joy.  Duane at Muscle Shoals with Wilson Pickett:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8Q2PATVyI

Derek Trucks drove me back to the Allman's.  At the end of his show here in Dallas a few months back, he threw his slide out into the audience, and I nabbed it.  When I showed it to my wife after the show (she is not into Tedeshi Trucks???) she asked "what's with the shot glass?

I told you all that story already, didn't I?

Anyway, I think I want to die right when his solo begins on this song (3:57):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqjD4oinpJA



Lone voice crying in the wilderness... - Mick - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 07:31 AM)Stymie link Wrote:... but with the emergence of Disco, all had changed, changed utterly, and this time it was a terribly ugliness which had been born........

For me, disco wasn't ugly.  Not at all.

I attended an ethnically diverse junior high school in downtown San Jose in the mid-1970s; lots of Hispanic kids, but lots of African American and Asian American, some Pacific Islanders and a lot of Caucasian kids as well.  We had a definite urban vibe, such as it was.  We listened to Al Green, Chaka Khan, Tower of Power, Earth Wind & Fire, Average White Band, van McCoy (Do the Hustle), Minnie Ripperton, Carl Douglas, War, LaBelle, Stevie Wonder, Ohio Players, and Gloria Gaynor.  The only chiefly white musicians I can recall listening to at the time were KC & the Sunshine Band*, Frankie Valli (two Top 100 songs that year) and Elton John.  And "Jive Talkin" by the Bee Gees.

We didn't listen to Paul McCartney, Alice Cooper, America, Captain & Tenille, Glen Campbell, David Bowie, Neil Sedaka, John Denver, Doobie Brothers, Eagles, BJ Thomas, Sweet, Helen Reddy, Pilot, Carpenters, Tony Orlando, Barry Manilow, Harry Chapin, 10cc, Michael Murphy, Jessi Colter, Sammy Johns, or any of the other Top 40 songs that white singers performed.

As I look back at the time (very fondly, I might add) I discovered girls in a brobdingnagian way.  All the girls in my neighborhood and at my school liked to dance.  And I learned to dance...you couldn't listen to our music without being able to dance.  And dancing helped lubricate the social ramble, and the dance music of the mid-1970s was essentially the forerunner of mainstream disco.

Within two years, the entire country was listening to, and moving to disco.  My family moved from urban San Jose to almost-redneck Santa Cruz at the time.  The kids there (all white, few exceptions) didn't listen to Barry Manilow either, but by and large they didn't listen to disco; they listened to Van Halen and Journey and Foreigner and Aerosmith and AC/DC and Kansas and the like.  Great music, but didn't have a beat you could dance to, not really.  For me, high school dances were pretty miserable given that the local bands tended to play metal with the attendant lengthy drum solos.  And everybody seemed to love "Freebird" or Journey's "Lights" as an excuse to grope each other during one of the few slow rock songs.  I spent my time at discos in San Jose or Watsonville, occasionally seeing one of my male classmates looking absolutely miserable, given their absolute inability to dance or fit in with the disco vibe.  My theory as to why so many people either have amnesia with respect to disco, or just dislike it, is because they couldn't feel the rhythm or dance to it.  For them, it was a relief when the era passed and the could return to head banging.

For me, it was a great, great time.  I loved disco, and I admit it.  And lots of stereotypically white rockers came out with disco music; Blondie, David Bowie, Rolling Stones, KISS, ELO, etc.  I never had a shortage of dates, didn't spend much time at the typical suburban Caucasian high school parties (joints, keggers, fistfights), but had wonderful, highly aerobic nights.  Yes, I knew the steps and wore Angel's Flight outfits.  Don't regret it in the slightest.  Wouldn't and couldn't go back, but every now and then, I hear the music, turn it waaaaay up and go back in time for a few minutes.

Years later (but pre-hip hop), I was watching a retrospective on disco.  It was pretty revealing.  One after the other Caucasian rockers admitted to listening to and enjoying disco music when no one else was around (I specifically remember Alice Cooper and Rod Stewart - who went on to make a disco song, Do Ya Think I'm Sexy -- admitting as much)  And one of the old disco singers (I forget his name, minor African-American disco star, might've been Jimmy Ellis of the Trammps) was asked the question "What made disco special?"  And he replied, "It was the last time that black folks listened to music made by white people."  Anyway, it stuck with me. 

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Mick - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 10:33 AM)Leftcoast link Wrote:Undiscovered Van Morrison, early Who and The Kinks, Woodstock live , 60s Winterland ?

I clearly was born out of time and want to comeback as 1960s Stymie.

P.S.  The a Police, early U2, Rush, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, the Clash, early Pretenders are all in my history.  The 70s weren't all bad.

Simply outstanding, LeftCoast.  I listened to all of them.

The 70's, Disco, and today - Hulk01 - 01-15-2014

With my friend Mick on disco.  It was hell if you could not dance.  But if you could, it was better than being a lead guitarist.

Loved The Bump, the best ice-breaking dance ever invented.  Great memories of a night in Dallas.  Not some trysts after but those hours on the floor.  The music was celebratory.

Disco also was much better dancing music than listening music.  Disco really syncopates with the moves of that time, and that pace is too fast for ballad but too slow for anthem. 

So timely to hear the references to the black holes of the 70’s because I was making a playlist for a favorite woman yesterday.  Because she attended high school in the early 70’s, I tried to find a good song from each of her four years.  Nothing. 

Also empathize with the post about losing access to music now that everyone is in headphones.  Lots of sports bars stream lots of the songs that we have listed, like Capital Cities, Pitbull, The Script.  And those bars aren’t all kids in backward baseball hats.  Plus Storify makes it possible to catch up and create your own lists by constantly suggesting music similar to the music you favorite.  This thread was started in large part to show many of you how to get back into a pastime that once mattered to you, perhaps a lot.  There’s still great music and it’s so much easier to find.

Re: The 70's, Disco, and today - Bruce Wang - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 11:36 AM)Hulk01 link Wrote:So timely to hear the references to the black holes of the 70’s because I was making a playlist for a favorite woman yesterday.  Because she attended high school in the early 70’s, I tried to find a good song from each of her four years.  Nothing. 

Name the years.  And the vibe you're looking for.  I'm sure there are some people here that can help.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - BostonCard - 01-15-2014

Well, I'll upvote your posts to get you back the respect you deserve.  ;)

BC

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - SUBuddha - 01-15-2014

Live concerts that have knocked my socks off include:
Harry Connick Jr. I have seen him 4 times, each time was great. His tour for She and Star Turtle rank up there as some of the best music I have heard.

Blues Traveler, I have seen them 3 times, and it is always a gas.

Billy Idol with Faith No More my freshman year was amazing.

Metallica, seen them 6 times, but worked 5 of those. Always a great show.

Styx, I have seen them on the senior circuit a few time lately, Tommy Shaw still rips it up. Similarly Judas Priest has been a better show lately than they were in my youth.

The bad:
Boston, they opened for Styx and you could tell they were a studio band more than a live act.

Buddy Guy, the show was amazing in many respects, but he had really gotten old and was having trouble playing by the end. This one ranks as bad simply because, seeing one of your blues heroes age, is never fun.

Def Leppard, I worked for them at a show in '99, it was a train wreck from start to finish.

Sugar Ray, again I worked this one, and they simply seemed more interested in which of the girls they were going to take backstage than putting on a show. They only played for about 40 minutes.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - oman - 01-15-2014

I guess your birthday might explain a lack of love for 70s music, but it struck me as a really good decade.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/5932-top-100-albums-of-the-1970s/

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - CowboyIndian - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 12:33 PM)SUBuddha link Wrote:Buddy Guy, the show was amazing in many respects, but he had really gotten old and was having trouble playing by the end.

You know he lived at Stanford in the 60s, right? He was sleeping at the Beta Chi house and rockin' it there between gigs. Don't really know the circumstances that led to that, but there he was.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - CowboyIndian - 01-15-2014

(01-15-2014, 12:33 PM)SUBuddha link Wrote:Buddy Guy, the show was amazing in many respects, but he had really gotten old and was having trouble playing by the end.

You know he lived at Stanford in the 60s, right? He was sleeping at the Beta Chi house and rockin' it there between gigs. Don't really know the circumstances that led to that, but there he was.

Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Leftcoast - 01-15-2014

I know where Mick and Hulk are coming from.

For three years at Stanford my roommates (Suites, Off-Campus, Trailers) were  funk/70s Disco/80s R&B Asian guys.  I was a white kid into Rock.  We would throw house parties, go to dances at Ujamaa and generally enjoyed hanging with each other.  So yeah, some nights I was that white kid with the small group of Asians chanting "West Coast/East Coast" while dancing at an Ujamaa party.  Confused, much?

Anyway, I can remember making a dance party mix tape with my roommates (hah! If you're under 30 you have NO idea) and trying to get them to include some of my songs.  "Carry on My Wayward Son?";  "Every Little thing She Does is Magic"?; "One"? 

"But Lefty.  That's interesting stuff but we just CAN'T DANCE to that.  "

And so another mix tape was made with EWF, Parliament, Prince, Jacksons, Run DMC, etc.  We might throw in The Police once but everyone left the floor.  I've got to admit the dancing was much more fun and the aerobic value greater than the average frat party I attended!  (And not surprisingly, the drink to dance ratio was lower.)

My rock and roll friends might have rolled their eyes but our parties were pretty darn fun.



Re: OT: The Years' Best Songs - Leftcoast - 01-15-2014

I know where Mick and Hulk are coming from.

For three years at Stanford my roommates (Suites, Off-Campus, Trailers) were  funk/70s Disco/80s R&B Asian guys.  I was a white kid into Rock.  We would throw house parties, go to dances at Ujamaa and generally enjoyed hanging with each other.  So yeah, some nights I was that white kid with the small group of Asians chanting "West Coast/East Coast" while dancing at an Ujamaa party.  Confused, much?

Anyway, I can remember making a dance party mix tape with my roommates (hah! If you're under 30 you have NO idea) and trying to get them to include some of my songs.  "Carry on My Wayward Son?";  "Every Little thing She Does is Magic"?; "One"? 

"But Lefty.  That's interesting stuff but we just CAN'T DANCE to that.  "

And so another mix tape was made with EWF, Parliament, Prince, Jacksons, Run DMC, etc.  We might throw in The Police once but everyone left the floor.  I've got to admit the dancing was much more fun and the aerobic value greater than the average frat party I attended!  (And not surprisingly, the drink to dance ratio was lower.)

My rock and roll friends might have rolled their eyes but our parties were pretty darn fun.