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RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - JohnR34231 - 12-22-2024
(12-21-2024, 11:15 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-21-2024, 10:57 PM)Giants Wrote:old spanish trail dateline='[url=tel:1734639615' Wrote: 1734639615[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1734632929' Wrote: 1734632929[/url]']
on Ruffins
Quote:NEVADA CAREERRS FRESHMAN (2024): Named Mountain West Freshman of the Week after his performance in the opener against SMU (Aug. 24) ... Appeared in 11 games, making nine starts at guard ... Missed two games due to injury.
FRESHMAN (2023): Appeared in four games, utilizing his redshirt ... Made two starts, at Utah State (Nov. 11) and at Colorado State (Nov. 18).
HIGH SCHOOL CAREER
Three-star recruit as ranked by 247Sports and Rivals … Played on both offensive and defensive lines at Long Beach Poly during his varsity career … Participated in both the All-American Bowl and the Polynesian Bowl as part of prep showcases … Named to All-CIF Southern Section Division I Team on the offensive line as a senior (2022) … Three-time All-Moore League selection … Selection to the Long Beach Press-Telegram Dream Team … Long Beach Poly went 10-1 overall and won the Moore league title at 7-0 in 2022 … Helped lead the Jackrabbits to the CIF-SS Division IV title in 2021.
https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/football/roster/tyson-ruffins/11476
Definitely a keeper. Was he on Calif 100 list?
Ruffins changed his mind. Instead of Palo Alto, he is headed to Berkeley.
Shoot
I guess we got outbid for him.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - 82lsju - 12-22-2024
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Quote:Washington tallied 30 total tackles and had 11 pass deflections for Dartmouth last season. He is a two-time All-Ivy League team selection and helped Dartmouth win a share of the Ivy League title three times during his tenure.
Washington held transfer offers from Western Kentucky, UTEP and Miami (Ohio) among others. He will have one season of eligibility remaining.
https://stanforddaily.com/2024/12/21/defensive-backs-commit-to-stanford-football/
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Quote:Onovoughe spent two seasons in Boulder, and will have three seasons of eligibility remaining after redshirting his freshman season. Onovughe played with Stanford quarterback Elijah Brown in high school.
https://stanforddaily.com/2024/12/06/stanford-football-transfer-portal-tracker/
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - chrisk - 12-26-2024
(12-21-2024, 05:45 PM)StanUSwagU Wrote: It would be nice (assuming our Admissions would be okay with their qualifications) if we went after 1 of the following QBs that are in the Transfer Portal:
(1) Beau Pribula
(2) Fernando Mendoza
...perhaps by offering 2 very valuable things:
(a) A Big NIL offering
(b) Being tutored & mentored to become an NFL ready QB by Andrew Luck
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(3) I dont know if this ex-NotreDame-Alabama QB Ty Buchner (who is now on the depth chart at NotreDame as a Utility Player/ WR) has any college eligibility left, but if he had 1 more year, it might be good to see if he might be interested in transferring to play QB at StanU. He was pretty good as a Dual-Threat QB when he was at NotreDame 3-4 years ago.
Mendoza to Indiana. His younger brother is a freshman QB there.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - SamuelMcF - 12-27-2024
(12-22-2024, 05:32 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-21-2024, 11:15 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-21-2024, 10:57 PM)Giants Wrote:old spanish trail dateline='[url=tel:1734639615' Wrote: 1734639615[/url]']
82lsju dateline='[url=tel:1734632929' Wrote: 1734632929[/url]']
on Ruffins
https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/football/roster/tyson-ruffins/11476
Definitely a keeper. Was he on Calif 100 list?
Ruffins changed his mind. Instead of Palo Alto, he is headed to Berkeley.
Shoot
I guess we got outbid for him.
Door #1
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - old spanish trail - 12-27-2024
(12-27-2024, 01:55 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(12-22-2024, 05:32 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-21-2024, 11:15 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-21-2024, 10:57 PM)Giants Wrote:old spanish trail dateline='[url=tel:1734639615' Wrote: 1734639615[/url]']
Definitely a keeper. Was he on Calif 100 list?
Ruffins changed his mind. Instead of Palo Alto, he is headed to Berkeley.
Shoot
I guess we got outbid for him.
Door #1
Thanks, Sam. That makes more sense.:):)
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - Bampa - 12-27-2024
A big welcome to C. J. Williams...4 star WR
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - 82lsju - 12-27-2024
(12-27-2024, 02:20 PM)Bampa Wrote: A big welcome to C. J. Williams...4 star WR
Quote:Williams, a junior, caught a career-high 16 passes for 248 yards and two touchdowns this season for the Badgers, while working as a starting outside receiver for a good portion of the season.
A 6’1, 205-pound wideout originally from Southern California, Williams played his freshman season at USC before transferring to the Badgers after head coach Luke Fickell was hired as a top four-star recruit.
However, he struggled to get a consistent role as a sophomore, ending with 15 catches for 158 yards while playing sparingly on the boundary.
This year, with an injury to top outside receiver Bryson Green, Williams took over a starting spot, but that was met with inconsistencies across the board offensively, leading to only 16 catches on the season.
https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2024/12/27/24330405/wisconsin-badgers-wr-cj-williams-is-transferring-to-stanford-cardinal-will-pauling-transfer-portal
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - old spanish trail - 12-27-2024
(12-27-2024, 03:17 PM)82lsju Wrote:(12-27-2024, 02:20 PM)Bampa Wrote: A big welcome to C. J. Williams...4 star WR
Quote:Williams, a junior, caught a career-high 16 passes for 248 yards and two touchdowns this season for the Badgers, while working as a starting outside receiver for a good portion of the season.
A 6’1, 205-pound wideout originally from Southern California, Williams played his freshman season at USC before transferring to the Badgers after head coach Luke Fickell was hired as a top four-star recruit.
However, he struggled to get a consistent role as a sophomore, ending with 15 catches for 158 yards while playing sparingly on the boundary.
This year, with an injury to top outside receiver Bryson Green, Williams took over a starting spot, but that was met with inconsistencies across the board offensively, leading to only 16 catches on the season.
https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2024/12/27/24330405/wisconsin-badgers-wr-cj-williams-is-transferring-to-stanford-cardinal-will-pauling-transfer-portal
This quote is a bit different than the Wisc roster discussion. Plus, he knows more about Elijah Brown than we do and that's a good sign.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - newguy - 12-27-2024
welcome to the Farm, CJ!!
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - JohnR34231 - 12-28-2024
(12-27-2024, 02:06 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-27-2024, 01:55 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(12-22-2024, 05:32 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-21-2024, 11:15 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-21-2024, 10:57 PM)Giants Wrote: Ruffins changed his mind. Instead of Palo Alto, he is headed to Berkeley.
Shoot
I guess we got outbid for him.
Door #1
Thanks, Sam. That makes more sense.:):)
I was assuming people didn't announce they were transferring until they were sure they would be accepted. I guess that isn't the case.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - Maple Leaf - 12-28-2024
WR Ismael Cisse is now in the portal as of 12/28/24
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - newguy - 12-28-2024
(12-28-2024, 09:04 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote: WR Ismael Cisse is now in the portal as of 12/28/24
God dammit.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - old spanish trail - 12-29-2024
(12-28-2024, 09:33 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-28-2024, 09:04 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote: WR Ismael Cisse is now in the portal as of 12/28/24
God dammit.
A fair trade? Who knows?. 3 years with developing player who showed lots of promise, imo, and probably hoped to be the #2 receiver, vs one year of an OK to pretty good receiver who has experience with our QB.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - JohnR34231 - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 01:28 AM)old spanish trail Wrote:(12-28-2024, 09:33 PM)newguy Wrote:(12-28-2024, 09:04 PM)Maple Leaf Wrote: WR Ismael Cisse is now in the portal as of 12/28/24
God dammit.
A fair trade? Who knows?. 3 years with developing player who showed lots of promise, imo, and probably hoped to be the #2 receiver, vs one year of an OK to pretty good receiver who has experience with our QB.
Of course, there is no guarantee he would have been around for three years.
Perhaps these days you take the veteran player over continuing to develop a young player who may not stay around once he is developed.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - msqueri - 12-29-2024
I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - JohnR34231 - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 08:17 AM)msqueri Wrote: I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.
I wonder if the coaches feel that way too.
If so and they were just bringing in another guy to strengthen the position perhaps you have to check with your key players to make sure they don't get upset and leave.
Roster management is not easy these days. I guess it is true that if you want a player to stick around you can never stop recruiting him.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - needle - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 09:10 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-29-2024, 08:17 AM)msqueri Wrote: I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.
I wonder if the coaches feel that way too.
If so and they were just bringing in another guy to strengthen the position perhaps you have to check with your key players to make sure they don't get upset and leave.
Roster management is not easy these days. I guess it is true that if you want a player to stick around you can never stop recruiting him.
The thing left unsaid is that Cisse saw his targets reduced in the second half of the year, for reasons that mostly had to do with the emergence of Mosley but that also had a little bit to do with Tiger and Roush getting a few more targets. I can't put this roster loss solely on TT, as it feels from afar like a guy who thinks he's earned something--maybe being penciled in as the "No. 2 receiver" given Elic's departure to the NFL--when it really needs to be an open competition this spring with the new transfers/frosh (not sure if the elite HS recruit is enroling early or not) for playing time/targets.
But it's a loss nonetheless, and another reason for pessismism about 2025.
Big picture, for Stanford's offense to improve under TT there really needs to be a major upgrade at OL. That doesn't appear to be especially close to happening, at least not on paper. We shall see.
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - Goose - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 08:17 AM)msqueri Wrote: I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.I think it is (unfortunately) necessary to do both. Obviously you need a short-term plan but you will also need a multi-branched long term year by year plan. The long term plan will most probably show you who you really need to keep happy and let you plan a response if you fail. It will also point out where you really need to recruit and where you need a "plan B". That can't be ignored. Even your short-term plan has to consider the "art of the possible". Some guys are "gone" no matter what you do, and who those are may not be "obvious" until very late in the planning cycle.
IMO the OL is still the "key". Unfortunately what we need is a Daniels who is a good passer. We cannot "improve" with our projected OL and a QB who can't run. Indeed Daniels being a limited passer set a ceiling on our play. His running ability set a floor. A QB who can't be a credible running threat probably has a much lower floor given our OL. Maybe Bear can be a dual threat answer that checks both boxes, but that is asking a lot of a freshman. Brown OTOH is not known as a runner, so that will probably be a bigger reach.
While I agree that "old man strength" is almost a necessity (with a few exceptions) to be a successful OL player, being "old" is not sufficient to provide that success. There are lots of upperclassmen that play on various OLs in college football that are not good. If one looks at the "bottom tier" of teams in P5 football, their websites almost without exception lament their poor offensive lines. "Everybody" is looking for OL in the portal. Finding good ones at all, let alone ones that can get into Stanford is always going to be difficult. We need to recruit and retain as well as diligently mine the portal. Both are necessary. It isn't going to be easy no matter who the coach is. It will be easier if we become "competitive" again, but still not "easy".
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - BostonCard - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 08:17 AM)msqueri Wrote: I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.
These are supposed to be college students, not part of a roster to be "managed". Of course I recognize that ship has sailed long ago, but it really kills me that this board is talking like it has given up all pretense that these are supposed to be student athletes not professional football players.
BC
RE: Football Offseason / Transfer Portal - msqueri - 12-29-2024
(12-29-2024, 12:51 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-29-2024, 08:17 AM)msqueri Wrote: I agree that we should think of roster management one year at a time rather than getting sucked in to thinking about three year projections for people who will face annual opportunities to leave. The problem I have is that even if we are simply optimizing for 2025 the evidence so far is that Cisse is a better receiver than Williams. I don't think it's a guarantee but if I had to bet I think Cisse would be the better receiver for us next year. Oh well.
These are supposed to be college students, not part of a roster to be "managed". Of course I recognize that ship has sailed long ago, but it really kills me that this board is talking like it has given up all pretense that these are supposed to be student athletes not professional football players.
BC
I actually think you are the one with a misplaced sense of what this is all about. This has been professional entertainment longer than either of us have been alive. It had just operated under a system in which powers-that-be cynically used the term "amateur" to describe something that wasn't (it has been adults working a job to entertain people for a long, long time) and colluded to deny monetary compensation to the workers. Football players would not go to the schools they go to were it not for football. The recent move to a more one year at a time, transactional model just gives the employees more agency in this arrangement. That evolution makes it necessary for those administering programs to "manage" them as they try to construct a roster amidst so much player agency.
Fundamentally, these players I talk about "managing" are at Stanford to play football. They wouldn't get into the school were it otherwise and their value to the school is the entertainment and revenue they produce.
I'll go even more fundamental than that: college football has always been an extremely bizarre convenience for communities that want to benefit from the labor of young people in a way that makes them feel a swell of community pride. Everywhere else in the world this is recognized as professional or semi-professional sports. I think if we really were talking about the purpose of universities sports in the way we've defined it for decades would have nothing to do with the conversation. College football is not about college at all and it never has been. It's about entertainment and community. I can't get outraged or sad about the twists and turns of college sports finally bringing it toward greater alignment with that reality.