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RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN vs SC (3PM TODAY ESPN) - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 04:37 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  How did Haley Jones just develop a three point shot... between the Pac-12 conference and the NCAA tournament?

Haley fixed the hitch in her 3-point shot between last game and this one!


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - M T - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 05:39 PM)martyup Wrote:  Inbounding the ball at the end of the game has been our Achilles Heel.  I can't believe that Brink didn't get fouled on that play.  I'll have to look back at the video.

If Missy had been the ref, no doubt she would have reviewed it to see if Brink should have been called for a intentional foul, as she had the ball wrapped up in her two arms & chest.

But seriously, this was a game where Stanford could have been called for a number of fouls that didn't get called.  That push on the back by Brink near the end of the game was a bad freshman mistake.  She's attempting to get a foul called, apparently not realizing they were in the bonus, but that could have been called an intentional.   When they reviewed that 3pt shot with 39 seconds on the clock, that was close to a flagrant foul by Brink that was quite obvious from two angles.

Once again the refs help decide the game by NOT calling fouls.  This time, Stanford gained the advantage by that.

Ashten had a very good game, 9pts, 8reb, 2 blocks, 1 steal in 24 min.
Lexie had a great game, 18 pts, 13 reb, 4 assists, 2 steals.   Great defense on the next to last shot, not allowing a clear path and not allowing a ref to call a foul.
Haley had a great game, 24 pts, 11 of 14 shooting, 1 steal.  Nothing as important as the last 2 pts.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 05:20 PM)81alum Wrote:  I got back from my procedure in time for the second half, with the sedatives still active in my body.  Thank goodness.  I have never enjoyed a 1 point victory as much as today :)

The sedatives were a great idea! Not sure how I survived this one!


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 05:39 PM)martyup Wrote:  Inbounding the ball at the end of the game has been our Achilles Heel.  I can't believe that Brink didn't get fouled on that play.  I'll have to look back at the video.

She got sandwiched with contact, but not clearly a foul, so I'm fine with the no-call.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BostonCard - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 05:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  With 3 minutes remaining in the game, Stanford had only 1 turnover in the 2nd half. They had done so well to avoid the careless errors that have frustrated us fans all season. Then Haley traveled in the backcourt completely unforced. Lexie went behind her back and lost control of the ball for another TO. And finally Cameron lost the ball when all she had to do was hold onto it because Stanford had the possession arrow.

Still they persisted. Survive and advance.

Looking at the last play again, it easily could have been a reach-in foul on Boston, though it is hard for me to see clearly from that camera angle.  It was a reasonable no-call.

Some other things about that last play.  Give Lexie some credit for getting back on defense and challenging Beale's shot.  It would have been an easy lay-up otherwise.

Also, looking at it again, it is a game of inches.  Boston was so close to being the hero of the game.  Gotta feel for her.

South Carolina is going to be very good next year with Boston, Henderson, Amihere, Cook, and Beale.  I think they bring back pretty much everyone.

BC


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BillBradley - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:06 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(04-02-2021, 05:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  With 3 minutes remaining in the game, Stanford had only 1 turnover in the 2nd half. They had done so well to avoid the careless errors that have frustrated us fans all season. Then Haley traveled in the backcourt completely unforced. Lexie went behind her back and lost control of the ball for another TO. And finally Cameron lost the ball when all she had to do was hold onto it because Stanford had the possession arrow.

Still they persisted. Survive and advance.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that travel on Haley Jones was questionable:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRivals/status/1378148074975981568?s=20[/tweet]

BC
I think that was a nod by Tara to Boston's foot shuffling at the high post. Practically every time she caught the ball at the high post she travelled. One time she took 3 steps after catching it. It's those non-call travels that have crept into the game where they allow players to change their pivot foot, shuffle, take extra small steps. Drives me nuts because it's so hard to stay consistent. Haley took an extra step where she didn't gain any offensive advantage, so I think that's why Tara was calling it weird. It was clearly a travel on replay, but so were many others.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - M T - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:06 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought that travel on Haley Jones was questionable:

It looks like an obvious travel to me.

(04-02-2021, 06:25 PM)BillBradley Wrote:  I think that was a nod by Tara to Boston's foot shuffling at the high post. Practically every time she caught the ball at the high post she travelled. One time she took 3 steps after catching it. It's those non-call travels that have crept into the game where they allow players to change their pivot foot, shuffle, take extra small steps. Drives me nuts because it's so hard to stay consistent. Haley took an extra step where she didn't gain any offensive advantage, so I think that's why Tara was calling it weird. It was clearly a travel on replay, but so were many others.

Agreed.

Oh yea, there was the kicked ball that wasn't called late.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - old spanish trail - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:06 PM)martyup Wrote:  I'm watching the video of the game and when we were up by 5 with 1:18 to play, SC shot a 3 and missed.  Prechtel had good position on Boston, but Boston pushed Prechtel forward and got the rebound.  That led to their little guard getting a bucket and one to bring the game to within 2.  Good refs would have called that foul on Boston, which would have been her 5th.

The fouls were pretty evenly called, both the good and the bad.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BillBradley - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:22 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(04-02-2021, 05:53 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:  With 3 minutes remaining in the game, Stanford had only 1 turnover in the 2nd half. They had done so well to avoid the careless errors that have frustrated us fans all season. Then Haley traveled in the backcourt completely unforced. Lexie went behind her back and lost control of the ball for another TO. And finally Cameron lost the ball when all she had to do was hold onto it because Stanford had the possession arrow.

Still they persisted. Survive and advance.

Looking at the last play again, it easily could have been a reach-in foul on Boston, though it is hard for me to see clearly from that camera angle.  It was a reasonable no-call.

Some other things about that last play.  Give Lexie some credit for getting back on defense and challenging Beale's shot.  It would have been an easy lay-up otherwise.

Also, looking at it again, it is a game of inches.  Boston was so close to being the hero of the game.  Gotta feel for her.

South Carolina is going to be very good next year with Boston, Henderson, Amihere, Cook, and Beale.  I think they bring back pretty much everyone.

BC
Yes, I thought the same thing. They will be back. As will the Cardinal and the Huskies. Probably a reasonable prediction that 3 of the 4 Final Four teams this year will repeat next year.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

This was such a great game. Two great teams giving it their all, right down to the last second. Lots of respect to South Carolina.

No complaints about the refs. They called it pretty tight for the most part and I wouldn't have wanted to see a lot more calls. I don't think the missed or arguable calls hurt either side more than the other.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - ca245 - 04-02-2021

Over at the Boneyard some fans are claiming that, but for the non-call of a foul against Stanford at the end, SC would have won the game. I guess those fans wanted to see a Baylor-SC NC game...


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BostonCard - 04-02-2021

[tweet]https://twitter.com/espnW/status/1378140416026021889?s=20[/tweet]

Nice to see.  You feel for Boston.

BC


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - martyup - 04-02-2021

I wonder if nerves have gotten to Ki.  She was not smiling and being her happy self tonight.  Haley, on the other hand, always had a smile on her face.  We're lucky to have squeezed out this win tonight, given that Ki didn't play particularly well.

In the finals, I think our bigs (Brink, Prechtel, and Jones) will make the difference.  Prechtel and Jones have found their groove.  Brink is just solid.  If our guards can hold their guards to pedestrian numbers, I think we can win it all.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - PVTree - 04-02-2021

Assuming it's Yukon, we'll need to hold PB to 20 points. We do that, and we'll have a great shot to win.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BostonCard - 04-02-2021

Williams is just streaky.  I remember she went through a bit of a slump earlier this year and pulled out of it.  Hoping she does so again on Sunday.

The big advantage we have is that we have enough weapons where if one player is misfiring, another can step in for her.

Today it was Jones with 24.
Against Louisville it was Lexie with 21 and Prechtel with 17
Jump was our leading scorer against Missouri State
Jones was the leading scorer against Oklahoma State
Williams was the leading scorer against UVU

BC


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BillBradley - 04-02-2021

What a crazy game. So glad we won. Either both teams deserved it or neither team deserved it, can't figure out which! 
- Why oh why did Kiana and Anna keep going under the screens? Maddening! Cooke and Henderson - 10 for 15 from 3. Don't get that one.
- Haley definitely the star of the game for us. Such a bummer that she sat out the entire second quarter because she had 2 fouls - and she ended the game with 2 fouls. Not saying it was the wrong move, but man, we really could have created some separation in that second quarter if we had her on the court.
- More defense and rebounding awesomeness from Lexie. She leaves everything out there. I was frustrated with her reluctance to kick the ball though. She's not a great finisher and multiple times we had people wide open that she didn't pass too. The last play where Haley got the O-board and scored, Kiana was very open on the 3 point line. It worked out, but I have to think the better play would have been to kick it. 
- Not a great game from Ki. She just looked tight again, like she's feeling the pressure. A couple defensive possessions it looked like she was just out of gas giving up easy looks. Maybe a short rest would have helped her?
- Anna got destroyed tonight and she was so timid offensively. A few times she was wide as Clyde and didn't pull the trigger, even though she's been shooting lights out recently. All I could think of to explain the lapse was that the TV never showed Russ. Maybe her family had to take off or something. She seems to play more aggressively when he's there. She was just off. 
- Our bigs held their own and then some. Glad Brink was able to play a lot of minutes. We are better with her in the game, especially against a team like this. Prechtel - more awesomeness all around!

Let's get the Natty!!!


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:30 PM)ca245 Wrote:  Over at the Boneyard some fans are claiming that, but for the non-call of a foul against Stanford at the end, SC would have won the game. I guess those fans wanted to see a Baylor-SC NC game...

Can't stop people from talking crap. Best to ignore it. I like your comeback, though!


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - CompSci87 - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 06:44 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Williams is just streaky.  I remember she went through a bit of a slump earlier this year and pulled out of it.  Hoping she does so again on Sunday.

The big advantage we have is that we have enough weapons where if one player is misfiring, another can step in for her.

Today it was Jones with 24.
Against Louisville it was Lexie with 21 and Prechtel with 17
Jump was our leading scorer against Missouri State
Jones was the leading scorer against Oklahoma State
Williams was the leading scorer against UVU

BC

I feel like Ki didn't have a lot of shot attempts today, though I didn't check the box score. SC defended her tightly even way outside the 3-point line.


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - BostonCard - 04-02-2021

(04-02-2021, 07:12 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  
(04-02-2021, 06:30 PM)ca245 Wrote:  Over at the Boneyard some fans are claiming that, but for the non-call of a foul against Stanford at the end, SC would have won the game. I guess those fans wanted to see a Baylor-SC NC game...

Can't stop people from talking crap. Best to ignore it.

I mean, some people on this board were claiming that, but for the non-call of a foul against UConn at the end, Baylor would have won the game.  That being said, I don't see what they are talking about.  I didn't see anything that would have made the refs call a foul, even under normal circumstances, let alone at the end of the game.

BC

(04-02-2021, 07:14 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  I feel like Ki didn't have a lot of shot attempts today, though I didn't check the box score. SC defended her tightly even way outside the 3-point line.

Williams had 14 shots, tied for second on the team with Jones, behind Lexie.  It's been about average for her in the tournament (she's had two games with 12, a game with 15 shots, and a game with 20).

BC


RE: WBB FINAL FOUR: STAN 66 SC 65 - Spiny_Norman - 04-02-2021

In 1992, Stanford beat Dawn Staley and her Virginia team in the national semifinals. The score was 66-65.

Today Stanford beat Dawn Staley and her South Carolina team (Staley is now coaching instead of playing) in the national semifinals. The score was 66-65.