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RE: Assistant Coaches - chrisk - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 02:16 PM)82lsju Wrote:(12-30-2022, 01:44 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: When Tavita wasn't let go immediately, I started to wonder. But I don't recall any announcements being made about current staff leaving, just new hires coming in. I'm skeptical but let's hope this doesn't turn out to be a case of someone's entire career being framed by one great game on the field.
the only "news" on departures I recall was when Morgan Turner went to Arkansas, but that was an Arkansas announcement he was coming not a Stanford announcement he was leaving, the former seems to be more common for assistants turnover after a head coaching change
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/pittman-tabs-turner-to-lead-hogs-tight-ends/
Gould, Heffernan, Kennedy, and Turner are the 2022 assistants that have been deleted from the staff directory so far.
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 05:34 PM)chrisk Wrote:(12-30-2022, 02:16 PM)82lsju Wrote:(12-30-2022, 01:44 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: When Tavita wasn't let go immediately, I started to wonder. But I don't recall any announcements being made about current staff leaving, just new hires coming in. I'm skeptical but let's hope this doesn't turn out to be a case of someone's entire career being framed by one great game on the field.
the only "news" on departures I recall was when Morgan Turner went to Arkansas, but that was an Arkansas announcement he was coming not a Stanford announcement he was leaving, the former seems to be more common for assistants turnover after a head coaching change
https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/pittman-tabs-turner-to-lead-hogs-tight-ends/
Gould, Heffernan, Kennedy, and Turner are the 2022 assistants that have been deleted from the staff directory so far.
leaving
Lance Anderson - Willie Shaw Director of Defense
Pete Alamar - Special Teams Coordinator
Duane Akina - Couch Family Defensive Backs Coach
Eric Sanders - Assistant Coach • Inside Linebackers
Diron Reynolds - Assistant Coach • Defensive Line
RE: Assistant Coaches - BostonCard - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 04:50 PM)Goose Wrote:(12-30-2022, 03:35 PM)msqueri Wrote: Anyway, just think you guys are projecting in thinking he should go elsewhere. He's a lifer and when somebody tells him his Stanford life is over he'll cross that bridge when he needs to, but I don't think it's realistic/understanding of his mentality to think he'll take a shortcut to that bridge. Why leave his bliss if he doesn't have to?You describe what you think he will do, namely stay and accept whatever happens. You may very well be correct. However, he is 35 years old and being "kicked to the curb" may not be too attractive at that age. I don't claim to "understand his mentality". I don't know the man. My belief that he should go somewhere else and "polish his resume" is based on the obvious fact he may need to get a job elsewhere "soon" (almost needed to this year), and it is better to be proactive, and attempt to control your own destiny. He may be perfectly happy being a QB coach at Stanford forever. However, there are good reasons to believe that is not an option. Given that, my suggestion remains the same.
I’m not sure what you mean; he’s already been announced as the QB coach, so clearly it *is* an option, and I would get why he would take it. But he *should* go forth and apprentice somewhere else, in a different system, a different school, etc. Shaw’s path, where he apprenticed in the NFL and at a lower division school (USD) before coming to Stanford with Harbaugh, is maybe not a bad one to emulate.
BC
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 06:43 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-30-2022, 04:50 PM)Goose Wrote:(12-30-2022, 03:35 PM)msqueri Wrote: Anyway, just think you guys are projecting in thinking he should go elsewhere. He's a lifer and when somebody tells him his Stanford life is over he'll cross that bridge when he needs to, but I don't think it's realistic/understanding of his mentality to think he'll take a shortcut to that bridge. Why leave his bliss if he doesn't have to?You describe what you think he will do, namely stay and accept whatever happens. You may very well be correct. However, he is 35 years old and being "kicked to the curb" may not be too attractive at that age. I don't claim to "understand his mentality". I don't know the man. My belief that he should go somewhere else and "polish his resume" is based on the obvious fact he may need to get a job elsewhere "soon" (almost needed to this year), and it is better to be proactive, and attempt to control your own destiny. He may be perfectly happy being a QB coach at Stanford forever. However, there are good reasons to believe that is not an option. Given that, my suggestion remains the same.
I’m not sure what you mean; he’s already been announced as the QB coach, so clearly it *is* an option, and I would get why he would take it. But he *should* go forth and apprentice somewhere else, in a different system, a different school, etc. Shaw’s path, where he apprenticed in the NFL and at a lower division school (USD) before coming to Stanford with Harbaugh, is maybe not a bad one to emulate.
BC
anyone know if Pritchard has a year (or more) remaining on his contract and if he does what the buyout is?
safeties and special teams, looks like CBs will be the last coach hired
https://gostanford.com/news/2022/12/30/football-gregory-joins-stanford-staff.aspx
which says in part
Quote: Pete Alamar will remain on staff as a Senior Special Teams Analyst.
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RE: Assistant Coaches - BobK - 12-30-2022
Excellent. Loads of experience
RE: Assistant Coaches - msqueri - 12-30-2022
And the press release says Alamar is staying on as a "Senior Special Teams Analyst." What a win win. I don't know how anybody couldn't be thrilled with this turn of events in the structuring of our defensive/special teams staff. Actually operating like a big-time program in hiding a bona fide coach in the "analyst" ranks. And it's not like Alamar was an irreplaceable recruiter.
Feel like I'm greedy to ask for more Christmas gifts but let's close out the staff with Chevis Jackson, JD Williams, Demario Warren, Terrence Brown, TJ Rushing (yeah, I know, not happening), or Will Harris. With Gregory not coaching DBs for two decades it would be nice to get a proven stud coach for the corners. These guys largely coach at lesser programs or are Stanford alums so I'd hope one would be realistic. I realize I am aiming high but with only one spot remaining to be announced it focuses the mind!
P.S. I suppose it's possible Akina gets the last spot and works with the corners. That wouldn't be a bad result either (or maybe Akina will be the "third" DB coach in an analyst role), but I'd like new blood on the defense. Also really need a more diverse staff.
RE: Assistant Coaches - StanfordMatt - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 07:01 PM)82lsju Wrote: anyone know if Pritchard has a year (or more) remaining on his contract and if he does what the buyout is?
My understanding is that a year or two ago, Stanford amended the contracts for assistant football coaches to tie them to Shaw's continued employment. Whereas previously a coach on a two-year deal would have been paid out for the second year if he had been fired without cause after the first year, I believe any coach not retained by Taylor will only be paid out through March.
RE: Assistant Coaches - Goose - 12-30-2022
(12-30-2022, 06:43 PM)BostonCard Wrote:He has a contract for the coming year. That isn't "forever", and if he and TT don't "mesh" well, he could very well be gone next year. Of course, QB coaches (and Offensive Coordinators) get fired/"released" all the time in college. It might have been arguable that as long as Shaw was the HC, Tavita would have a job and relying on that to be essentially "forever" MIGHT have made sense. That is no longer the case and therefore the odds of Tavita not being at Stanford anywhere close to forever just went up by orders of magnitude. That should make looking at his options and filling out his resume much more attractive/necessary than than ever before.(12-30-2022, 04:50 PM)Goose Wrote:(12-30-2022, 03:35 PM)msqueri Wrote: Anyway, just think you guys are projecting in thinking he should go elsewhere. He's a lifer and when somebody tells him his Stanford life is over he'll cross that bridge when he needs to, but I don't think it's realistic/understanding of his mentality to think he'll take a shortcut to that bridge. Why leave his bliss if he doesn't have to?You describe what you think he will do, namely stay and accept whatever happens. You may very well be correct. However, he is 35 years old and being "kicked to the curb" may not be too attractive at that age. I don't claim to "understand his mentality". I don't know the man. My belief that he should go somewhere else and "polish his resume" is based on the obvious fact he may need to get a job elsewhere "soon" (almost needed to this year), and it is better to be proactive, and attempt to control your own destiny. He may be perfectly happy being a QB coach at Stanford forever. However, there are good reasons to believe that is not an option. Given that, my suggestion remains the same.
I’m not sure what you mean; he’s already been announced as the QB coach, so clearly it *is* an option, and I would get why he would take it.
Quote:But he *should* go forth and apprentice somewhere else, in a different system, a different school, etc. Shaw’s path, where he apprenticed in the NFL and at a lower division school (USD) before coming to Stanford with Harbaugh, is maybe not a bad one to emulate.On this we agree totally. Seeing how it goes with TT probably makes sense, since that is an available option. It is almost as if the new job came to Tavita instead of visa-versa. However, relying on inheriting the HC position probably isn't an option any more, if it ever was.
BC
RE: Assistant Coaches - gocard14 - 12-31-2022
(12-30-2022, 07:20 PM)msqueri Wrote: And the press release says Alamar is staying on as a "Senior Special Teams Analyst." What a win win. I don't know how anybody couldn't be thrilled with this turn of events in the structuring of our defensive/special teams staff. Actually operating like a big-time program in hiding a bona fide coach in the "analyst" ranks. And it's not like Alamar was an irreplaceable recruiter.
Feel like I'm greedy to ask for more Christmas gifts but let's close out the staff with Chevis Jackson, JD Williams, Demario Warren, Terrence Brown, TJ Rushing (yeah, I know, not happening), or Will Harris. With Gregory not coaching DBs for two decades it would be nice to get a proven stud coach for the corners. These guys largely coach at lesser programs or are Stanford alums so I'd hope one would be realistic. I realize I am aiming high but with only one spot remaining to be announced it focuses the mind!
P.S. I suppose it's possible Akina gets the last spot and works with the corners. That wouldn't be a bad result either (or maybe Akina will be the "third" DB coach in an analyst role), but I'd like new blood on the defense. Also really need a more diverse staff.
What exactly does analyst mean? I assume it doesn’t count against coaching limits but I would also assume that means he can’t be involved in practices, game day, or recruiting?
RE: Assistant Coaches - gailtate - 12-31-2022
(12-31-2022, 09:26 AM)gocard14 Wrote:(12-30-2022, 07:20 PM)msqueri Wrote: And the press release says Alamar is staying on as a "Senior Special Teams Analyst." What a win win. I don't know how anybody couldn't be thrilled with this turn of events in the structuring of our defensive/special teams staff. Actually operating like a big-time program in hiding a bona fide coach in the "analyst" ranks. And it's not like Alamar was an irreplaceable recruiter.
Feel like I'm greedy to ask for more Christmas gifts but let's close out the staff with Chevis Jackson, JD Williams, Demario Warren, Terrence Brown, TJ Rushing (yeah, I know, not happening), or Will Harris. With Gregory not coaching DBs for two decades it would be nice to get a proven stud coach for the corners. These guys largely coach at lesser programs or are Stanford alums so I'd hope one would be realistic. I realize I am aiming high but with only one spot remaining to be announced it focuses the mind!
P.S. I suppose it's possible Akina gets the last spot and works with the corners. That wouldn't be a bad result either (or maybe Akina will be the "third" DB coach in an analyst role), but I'd like new blood on the defense. Also really need a more diverse staff.
What exactly does analyst mean? I assume it doesn’t count against coaching limits but I would also assume that means he can’t be involved in practices, game day, or recruiting?
I'd like to see somebody who could "analyze" exactly what happened that caused this program to collapse so fast. Then recommend the systemic fixes to avoid it in the future. Now THAT would be useful.
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 12-31-2022
(12-31-2022, 09:26 AM)gocard14 Wrote: What exactly does analyst mean? I assume it doesn’t count against coaching limits but I would also assume that means he can’t be involved in practices, game day, or recruiting?
teams can have an unlimited number of analysts. Analysts are not allowed to recruit and not allowed to do direct on-field coaching of players, but can do things like provide instruction and watch film off-field with players. In many ways they seem to extra eyes and brain cycles that extend the reach and effective hours of the rest of the coaching staff. For example, some can start game planning for future opponents weeks earlier than the regular staff could.
https://qctimes.com/sports/football/what-are-college-football-analysts-and-what-are-they-allowed-to-do/article_5a286963-3b5f-501d-98aa-af7c0fbd7a2a.html
looks like Alabama had 11 this season
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2022/02/tracking-2022-alabama-coaching-staffanalyst-changes.html
RE: Assistant Coaches - BostonCard - 12-31-2022
(12-31-2022, 10:20 AM)gailtate Wrote: I'd like to see somebody who could "analyze" exactly what happened that caused this program to collapse so fast. Then recommend the systemic fixes to avoid it in the future. Now THAT would be useful.Or they could just read this board. No shortage of “analysis” here.
BC
RE: Assistant Coaches - lex24 - 12-31-2022
(12-31-2022, 10:20 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-31-2022, 09:26 AM)gocard14 Wrote:(12-30-2022, 07:20 PM)msqueri Wrote: And the press release says Alamar is staying on as a "Senior Special Teams Analyst." What a win win. I don't know how anybody couldn't be thrilled with this turn of events in the structuring of our defensive/special teams staff. Actually operating like a big-time program in hiding a bona fide coach in the "analyst" ranks. And it's not like Alamar was an irreplaceable recruiter.
Feel like I'm greedy to ask for more Christmas gifts but let's close out the staff with Chevis Jackson, JD Williams, Demario Warren, Terrence Brown, TJ Rushing (yeah, I know, not happening), or Will Harris. With Gregory not coaching DBs for two decades it would be nice to get a proven stud coach for the corners. These guys largely coach at lesser programs or are Stanford alums so I'd hope one would be realistic. I realize I am aiming high but with only one spot remaining to be announced it focuses the mind!
P.S. I suppose it's possible Akina gets the last spot and works with the corners. That wouldn't be a bad result either (or maybe Akina will be the "third" DB coach in an analyst role), but I'd like new blood on the defense. Also really need a more diverse staff.
What exactly does analyst mean? I assume it doesn’t count against coaching limits but I would also assume that means he can’t be involved in practices, game day, or recruiting?
I'd like to see somebody who could "analyze" exactly what happened that caused this program to collapse so fast. Then recommend the systemic fixes to avoid it in the future. Now THAT would be useful.
They went from a team that controlled games running and stopping the run to a team that could do neither. Stopped getting and developing players that could physically dominate their opponent. Went from intellectual brutality to just intellectual.
There, I analyzed it. Time to move on. New Sheriff in town.
RE: Assistant Coaches - winflop - 12-31-2022
Jack West taking a single snap in a game against anyone other than a creampuff is why Pritchard should have been among the first to go. Yes it was ultimately Shaw’s call but there’s no way he did so without input from the position coach who worked with them every day in practice
Add in that none of the current qb’s looks anywhere close to being starting quality and that’s just icing on the cake for me. The cherry on top is that Pritchard has never played nor coached in an offense anything like Taylor’s. It feels like as bad of a mismatch as the RPSlow was for McKee
Taylor appears to have made some very good hires but this was a TERRIBLE decision
RE: Assistant Coaches - lex24 - 01-01-2023
(12-31-2022, 11:19 PM)winflop Wrote: Jack West taking a single snap in a game against anyone other than a creampuff is why Pritchard should have been among the first to go. Yes it was ultimately Shaw’s call but there’s no way he did so without input from the position coach who worked with them every day in practice
Add in that none of the current qb’s looks anywhere close to being starting quality and that’s just icing on the cake for me. The cherry on top is that Pritchard has never played nor coached in an offense anything like Taylor’s. It feels like as bad of a mismatch as the RPSlow was for McKee
Taylor appears to have made some very good hires but this was a TERRIBLE decision
Perhaps Pritchard is popular with the players. He also can help Taylor as he works to “get” Stanford. He’s not going to be game planning or calling plays. He’s going to be working with QB’s. And quite honestly, you don’t know what kind of a QB coach he is. Not unless you’ve been there, seen his instruction etc. As for the performance of Stanford QB’s, it’s been fine. No running game. Poor protection. Tough to get much production.
I suspect Taylor wanted a bridge of sorts. Pritchard a logical choice.
RE: Assistant Coaches - Goose - 01-01-2023
(01-01-2023, 09:04 AM)lex24 Wrote:Pritchard is also young. Unlike several of the other coaches, retirement is probably not one of his options. He was also willing to take a step down and be the QB coach. It probably is a situation where both parties will try it out and see how it goes. I wouldn't be amazed if it works out. Similarly, I wouldn't be amazed if it doesn't. There is going to be lots of "settling in" for the new staff, and undoubtedly there will be some rough edges. Pritchard may indeed help bridge that process. However, I think there is no doubt that his current situation is a "trial run" and he might not last into 2024. Then again, it might go gangbusters. We shall see.(12-31-2022, 11:19 PM)winflop Wrote: Jack West taking a single snap in a game against anyone other than a creampuff is why Pritchard should have been among the first to go. Yes it was ultimately Shaw’s call but there’s no way he did so without input from the position coach who worked with them every day in practice
Add in that none of the current qb’s looks anywhere close to being starting quality and that’s just icing on the cake for me. The cherry on top is that Pritchard has never played nor coached in an offense anything like Taylor’s. It feels like as bad of a mismatch as the RPSlow was for McKee
Taylor appears to have made some very good hires but this was a TERRIBLE decision
Perhaps Pritchard is popular with the players. He also can help Taylor as he works to “get” Stanford. He’s not going to be game planning or calling plays. He’s going to be working with QB’s. And quite honestly, you don’t know what kind of a QB coach he is. Not unless you’ve been there, seen his instruction etc. As for the performance of Stanford QB’s, it’s been fine. No running game. Poor protection. Tough to get much production.
I suspect Taylor wanted a bridge of sorts. Pritchard a logical choice.
RE: Assistant Coaches - gailtate - 01-01-2023
(12-31-2022, 12:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-31-2022, 10:20 AM)gailtate Wrote: I'd like to see somebody who could "analyze" exactly what happened that caused this program to collapse so fast. Then recommend the systemic fixes to avoid it in the future. Now THAT would be useful.Or they could just read this board. No shortage of “analysis” here.
BC
I was thinking more along the lines of expert analysis.
RE: Assistant Coaches - lex24 - 01-01-2023
(01-01-2023, 10:15 AM)gailtate Wrote:(12-31-2022, 12:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-31-2022, 10:20 AM)gailtate Wrote: I'd like to see somebody who could "analyze" exactly what happened that caused this program to collapse so fast. Then recommend the systemic fixes to avoid it in the future. Now THAT would be useful.Or they could just read this board. No shortage of “analysis” here.
BC
I was thinking more along the lines of expert analysis.
Are you suggesting we aren’t experts……. :)
RE: Assistant Coaches - SamuelMcF - 01-01-2023
(12-31-2022, 11:19 PM)winflop Wrote: Jack West taking a single snap in a game against anyone other than a creampuff is why Pritchard should have been among the first to go. Yes it was ultimately Shaw’s call but there’s no way he did so without input from the position coach who worked with them every day in practiceBoy do I have news for you!
(12-31-2022, 11:19 PM)winflop Wrote: Add in that none of the current qb’s looks anywhere close to being starting quality and that’s just icing on the cake for me. The cherry on top is that Pritchard has never played nor coached in an offense anything like Taylor’s. It feels like as bad of a mismatch as the RPSlow was for McKeeWhat exactly are you basing this off of? We haven't seen any passing from either of them to determine this. And if you think Pritchard was the one who decided Daniels would be a run-only QB in a totally telegraphed package, I have a bunch of NFTs to sell you.
RE: Assistant Coaches - martyup - 01-01-2023
Do we know that the slow mesh wasn't Tavita's brainchild? After all, he was the OC.