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All Pac 12 team - terry - 12-01-2015
Stanford is well represented on the All Pac 12 team:[size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]First team:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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Christian McCaffrey
[size=13px]Kyle Murphy[/size]
[size=13px]Josh Garnett[/size]
[size=13px]Austin Hooper[/size]
[size=13px]Aziz Shittu[/size]
[size=13px]Blake Martinez[/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Second team:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Kevin Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]Ronnie Harris[/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Honorable mention:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Johnny Caspers
[/size][/size]Graham Shuler
[size=13px][size=13px][size=13px]Daniel Marx
Brennan Scarlett
Solomon Thomas
[/size][/size][/size]Kevin Anderson
[size=13px][size=13px][size=13px]Conrad Ukropina[/size][/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Christian McCaffrey was named to the first team as both a running back and a return specialist.
[color=rgb(70, 70, 70)]http://pac-12.com/article/2015/12/01/pac-12-football-all-conference-team-announced[/color][/size][/size]
Re: All Pac 12 team - BostonCard - 12-01-2015
Hogan was robbed. Goff may be the better pro prospect, but he was not the better QB in the Pac-12.
McCaffrey, Murphy, Garnett, Hooper, and Martinez were all expected and welcome.
I'm pleasantly surprised Shittu made it to the first team (though I guess if you picked 5 DL).
I thought Ukropina hd a chance at second team, but the competition at kicker is fierce, and we simply didn't give him that many FG kicking opportunities.
BC
Re: All Pac 12 team - washingtonismoney - 12-01-2015
Shaw co-coach of the year: http://www.cougcenter.com/2015/12/1/9830836/wsu-football-mike-leach-named-pac-12-coach-of-the-year-award
His rants and antics in the video world aside - Redrum - 12-01-2015
Leach did a pretty good job with his rag-tag bunch of lovable misfits.
Re: All Pac 12 team - terry - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 01:29 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Hogan was robbed. Goff may be the better pro prospect, but he was not the better QB in the Pac-12.
Yep. Obviously the voters favored pass-happy offenses and big numbers over efficient, effective quarterbacking.
[size=13px]Pass efficiency rating in conference games:[/size][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]170.7Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]150.4Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]148.9Â Falk[/size][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Pass efficiency rating in all games:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]168.6Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]156.4Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]148.8Â Falk[/size][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]QBR:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]85.3Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]80.7Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]68.9Â Falk[/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Yards per attempt in conference games:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]9.3Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]8.4Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]7.3Â Falk[/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Yards per attempt in all games:[/size][/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]9.2Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]8.6Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]7.2Â Falk[/size][size=13px][size=13px]
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[size=13px][size=13px]Rushing yards:[/size][/size]
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[/size][size=13px][size=13px]294Â Hogan[/size][/size]
[size=13px]Â Â 8Â Goff[/size]
[size=13px]-114Â Falk[/size]
Re: All Pac 12 team - CTcard - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 02:15 PM)terry link Wrote:[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=13848.msg145025#msg145025 date=1449001776]
Hogan was robbed. Goff may be the better pro prospect, but he was not the better QB in the Pac-12.
Yep. Obviously the voters favored pass-happy offenses and big numbers over efficient, effective quarterbacking.
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Of course it might be fair to throw Vernon Adams numbers into the discussion.
PER in conference games:
191.7Â Adams
PER in all games:
179.6 Adams
QBR:
78.7 Adams
Yds per attempt in conference games:
10.74Â Adams
Yards per attempt in all games:
10.2 Adams
Rushing Yards:
155
Of course Adams missed a couple of games. He officially played in 9, I think somewhat sparingly in one of those.
Re: All Pac 12 team - terry - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 04:32 PM)CTcard link Wrote:Of course it might be fair to throw Vernon Adams numbers into the discussion.
Of course Adams missed a couple of games. He officially played in 9, I think somewhat sparingly in one of those.
I agree that Adams deserves consideration for first team All Pac-12. I posted yesterday (on a different board, I think) that I thought Hogan and Adams were the top two quarterbacks, with Goff also in the discussion, and Falk not really in the discussion. I would have given it to Hogan because Adams missed too much time.
The Pac-12 voters, in their wisdom (or lack of it), had Hogan on the second team and Adams as honorable mention. My statistical comparison above included Hogan, Goff, and Falk because those were the Pac-12's first and second team picks. My point is that Hogan should have been ahead of Goff and Falk. Whether Hogan deserved to be ahead of Adams would depend on how you evaluate the time Adams missed, the intangibles, game management, and team success.
Re: All Pac 12 team - ThePassionOfTheChryst - 12-01-2015
Completion %:
KH -- 68.3
JG -- 64.2
Yards/attempt:
KH -- 9.2
JG -- 8.6
Pass attempts per TD:
KH -- 11.78
JG -- 13.30
Pass attempts per INT:
KH -- 38.71
JG -- 37.85
TD/INT ratio:
KH -- 3.29
JG -- 2.85
Rushing TD:
KH -- 4
JG -- 0
W-L record:
KH -- 10-2
JG -- 7-5
With Hogan's current stats, had he thrown 492 passes, he would look like this:
336/492 for 4526 42 TDs-13 INTs
Yeah, seems like the Pac-12 got this one right...
Granted, Henry is about to win the Voldemort despite being about as one dimensional as a back can be, so I suppose it's not just the conference.
Re: All Pac 12 team - washingtonismoney - 12-01-2015
https://twitter.com/treeSIDjorge/status/671873507932790784
Re: All Pac 12 team - BostonCard - 12-01-2015
McCaffrey is offensive player of the year.
BC
Re: All Pac 12 team - Spiny_Norman - 12-01-2015
Christian McCaffrey is Pac 12 Offensive Player of the Year
https://twitter.com/StanfordFball/status/671873790809268224
Re: All Pac 12 team - terry - 12-01-2015
Pac-12 release announcing players of the year and coaches of the year:
http://pac-12.com/article/2015/12/01/pac-12-announces-football-players-and-co-coaches-year
Re: All Pac 12 team - washingtonismoney - 12-01-2015
The other three-time winners of coach of the year? Dennis Erickson, Pete Carroll, and Don James. Solid company.
Re: All Pac 12 team - CornFed - 12-01-2015
Except Shaw is the first three-time winner who is also a class act!
Re: All Pac 12 team - BostonCard - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 07:30 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:The other three-time winners of coach of the year? Dennis Erickson, Pete Carroll, and Don James. Solid company.
Ummm... not really. Carroll and James both got their teams in trouble with the NCAA. That's not the sort of company that I want WalshShaw to keep.
BC
Re: All Pac 12 team - Mick - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 07:46 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:[quote author=washingtonismoney link=topic=13848.msg145119#msg145119 date=1449023403]
The other three-time winners of coach of the year? Dennis Erickson, Pete Carroll, and Don James. Solid company.
Ummm... not really. Carroll and James both got their teams in trouble with the NCAA. That's not the sort of company that I want Walsh to keep.
BC
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...or Shaw either...
Re: All Pac 12 team - Rally - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 07:23 PM)terry link Wrote:Pac-12 release announcing players of the year and coaches of the year:
http://pac-12.com/article/2015/12/01/pac-12-announces-football-players-and-co-coaches-year
Do they not pick a Player of the Year?
Re: All Pac 12 team - BostonCard - 12-01-2015
They pick two players of the year, one on offense and one on defense.
McCaffrey was the pick on offense.
Buckner from Oregon was the pick on defense.
BC
Re: All Pac 12 team - Rally - 12-01-2015
Robbed! They pick Jackson 2nd team returned, first team AP, MCCaffrey first team returner and no mention for AP? Leading the nation doesn't count? Are they into Participation Trophies these days? (Just fooli, really. No big deal.)
Re: All Pac 12 team - winflop - 12-01-2015
(12-01-2015, 01:29 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:Hogan was robbed. Goff may be the better pro prospect, but he was not the better QB in the Pac-12.
Ask every Pac-12 coach who they'd like to have behind center. I'd guess Hogan's name is #1 or #2 from all of them, and I'm not sure half of them would say Goff.