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What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-11-2016
Apologies to Leftcoast for not adding this to the end of his eloquent write-up on the White Plaza Rally, but I wanted to make sure as many eyes as possible saw this, from Friends of LSJUMB:
~~forward this memo widely and with abandon~~
Dear Stanford, fellow concerned students, alumni, and community members,
On Friday afternoon, members of the Stanford Band and the public were notified that the Band would be suspended for the duration of the 2016-2017 school year and would undergo an administration-centered restructuring of the university - pending an appeal from the Band. (For more on this process, its failures, and its place in our wider concerns, see the Editorial Board of The Daily below) On Saturday, students organized an remarkable show of solidarity for the Band. Over 300 students, alumni, and community members turned out to show their support and to share what Band has meant to them, as well as what concerns them about the administrations behavior. We thank you for the memories, emotions, support, and determination you all shared.
Its important that we had the opportunity to hear each other, but Stanfords top administrators need to hear us as well. We are launching a letter-writing campaign, bringing the voices of the Stanford community to President Tessier-Lavigne, Provost Etchemendy, and incoming Provost Drell. In the end, these are the people responsible for the behavior of the administration and for the well-being of Stanford culture. We believe in their good intentions, and we need them to hear from all of us how much the Stanford Band has meant to this university and its core values. With this in mind, some logistics:
- Write a letter - anywhere from a paragraph to a page - clearly and calmly expressing what the Band has meant to you and why this decision concerns you.
- Express yourself with respect and restraint, and please refrain from attacking individuals who have been involved in this process. Please dont undermine the remarkable expressions of positivity and determination that we heard at yesterdays rally by spewing hate or wrongly conflating policies designed to protect students with the imprudent application of those policies.
- Use the subject line In Support of the Stanford Band - [YOUR NAME]
- Send your letter to etch@stanford.edu, marctl@stanford.edu, and persis@stanford.edu, and BCC freethestanfordband@gmail.com, so that we can gather everyones statements.
We know finals are happening now, but we hope youll find a few minutes to productively procrastinate by speaking out in favor of a pluralistic, inclusive, and strange Stanford campus.
If you already submitted a story through the To the Stanford Band, with love Google Form that was sent out on Saturday morning to some students and want to forward that to the relevant people, use the second link below so you can retrieve yours - and view the nearly 300 other incredible responses.
The administration timed this decision in hopes that students would be too focused on finals to speak up. We deserve better than manipulation, so add your voice.
To get you started, below weve included a few of the points expressed during yesterdays rally. If youre not sure where to start, read through these and feel free to use them:
- Band has been a welcoming and inclusive community for people of all kinds, even and especially when other areas of campus life have been unfriendly, hostile, or simply uncomfortable. It exists to spread joy to its members and the community.
- There are a lot of serious fights taking place in our home communities and across this country, and Band provides both a refuge and an outlet for students in the midst of this.
- Bands irreverence and radical self-expression is a cornerstone of Stanford student culture. Band offers students perspective and helps keep learning about learning, not about academic pressure and competition.
- Band offers a rare genuine space on campus where students can be bad at something without facing social stigma. Band is not focused on academic achievement or career advancement.
- Band performs for a number of important community and charity events around the Bay Area, such as the Special Olympics, SF AIDS Walk, and Ronald McDonald House.
- Stanford University, as an academic institution, should be first and foremost a guardian of the principles of free speech, expression, and assembly. The administrations draconian behavior - especially Vice Provost Boardmans open-ended threat of individual disciplinary action for assembling as an organization - has shown that administrators would rather punish dissent than communicate openly with concerned students.
- The administrations decision to release this decision after work hours on a Friday afternoon between Week 10 and Finals Week demonstrates a disturbing intent to prevent student engagement. Throughout Bands long and arduous investigation process, the practice of requiring frequent and needlessly-detailed reports from student leadership confirmed this intent to manipulate Band members status as students to prevent meaningful progress and create an illusion of noncooperation.
- Despite repeated and thorough efforts to scapegoat the Band, the administration has failed to address the actual causes of sexual assault in the Stanford community, and has shown little serious intent to address inconvenient root causes. Students are rightfully concerned that this decision is an attempt to distract from the shameful revelation that Stanford has attempted to bribe sexual assault survivors for their silence.
In addition to emails, we highly encourage you to send physical mail to Provost Etchemendy, President Tessier-Lavigne, and incoming Provost Drell at the following addresses:
John Etchemendy
Office of the Provost
Building 10
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-2061
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
Office of the President
Building 10
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-2061
Persis Drell
Office of the Dean
475 Via Ortega
Stanford, CA 94305-412
Thank you so much for your continued support, and feel free to reach out with any questions! Put [Question] in the subject line of your email and write to freethestanfordband@gmail.com.
With hope, funk, and determination,
Concerned Students
http://www.stanforddaily.com/ /editorial-board-stanford-sh /
https://docs.google.com/ /1mBRMuB-iVsCFMxZThon692WB8B /edit
(Photo is from yesterdays Rally In Support of LSJUMB at White Plaza)
What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-11-2016
Apologies to Leftcoast for not adding this to the end of his eloquent write-up on the White Plaza Rally, but I wanted to make sure as many eyes as possible saw this, from Friends of LSJUMB:
~~forward this memo widely and with abandon~~
Dear Stanford, fellow concerned students, alumni, and community members,
On Friday afternoon, members of the Stanford Band and the public were notified that the Band would be suspended for the duration of the 2016-2017 school year and would undergo an administration-centered restructuring of the university - pending an appeal from the Band. (For more on this process, its failures, and its place in our wider concerns, see the Editorial Board of The Daily below) On Saturday, students organized an remarkable show of solidarity for the Band. Over 300 students, alumni, and community members turned out to show their support and to share what Band has meant to them, as well as what concerns them about the administrations behavior. We thank you for the memories, emotions, support, and determination you all shared.
Its important that we had the opportunity to hear each other, but Stanfords top administrators need to hear us as well. We are launching a letter-writing campaign, bringing the voices of the Stanford community to President Tessier-Lavigne, Provost Etchemendy, and incoming Provost Drell. In the end, these are the people responsible for the behavior of the administration and for the well-being of Stanford culture. We believe in their good intentions, and we need them to hear from all of us how much the Stanford Band has meant to this university and its core values. With this in mind, some logistics:
- Write a letter - anywhere from a paragraph to a page - clearly and calmly expressing what the Band has meant to you and why this decision concerns you.
- Express yourself with respect and restraint, and please refrain from attacking individuals who have been involved in this process. Please dont undermine the remarkable expressions of positivity and determination that we heard at yesterdays rally by spewing hate or wrongly conflating policies designed to protect students with the imprudent application of those policies.
- Use the subject line In Support of the Stanford Band - [YOUR NAME]
- Send your letter to etch@stanford.edu, marctl@stanford.edu, and persis@stanford.edu, and BCC freethestanfordband@gmail.com, so that we can gather everyones statements.
We know finals are happening now, but we hope youll find a few minutes to productively procrastinate by speaking out in favor of a pluralistic, inclusive, and strange Stanford campus.
If you already submitted a story through the To the Stanford Band, with love Google Form that was sent out on Saturday morning to some students and want to forward that to the relevant people, use the second link below so you can retrieve yours - and view the nearly 300 other incredible responses.
The administration timed this decision in hopes that students would be too focused on finals to speak up. We deserve better than manipulation, so add your voice.
To get you started, below weve included a few of the points expressed during yesterdays rally. If youre not sure where to start, read through these and feel free to use them:
- Band has been a welcoming and inclusive community for people of all kinds, even and especially when other areas of campus life have been unfriendly, hostile, or simply uncomfortable. It exists to spread joy to its members and the community.
- There are a lot of serious fights taking place in our home communities and across this country, and Band provides both a refuge and an outlet for students in the midst of this.
- Bands irreverence and radical self-expression is a cornerstone of Stanford student culture. Band offers students perspective and helps keep learning about learning, not about academic pressure and competition.
- Band offers a rare genuine space on campus where students can be bad at something without facing social stigma. Band is not focused on academic achievement or career advancement.
- Band performs for a number of important community and charity events around the Bay Area, such as the Special Olympics, SF AIDS Walk, and Ronald McDonald House.
- Stanford University, as an academic institution, should be first and foremost a guardian of the principles of free speech, expression, and assembly. The administrations draconian behavior - especially Vice Provost Boardmans open-ended threat of individual disciplinary action for assembling as an organization - has shown that administrators would rather punish dissent than communicate openly with concerned students.
- The administrations decision to release this decision after work hours on a Friday afternoon between Week 10 and Finals Week demonstrates a disturbing intent to prevent student engagement. Throughout Bands long and arduous investigation process, the practice of requiring frequent and needlessly-detailed reports from student leadership confirmed this intent to manipulate Band members status as students to prevent meaningful progress and create an illusion of noncooperation.
- Despite repeated and thorough efforts to scapegoat the Band, the administration has failed to address the actual causes of sexual assault in the Stanford community, and has shown little serious intent to address inconvenient root causes. Students are rightfully concerned that this decision is an attempt to distract from the shameful revelation that Stanford has attempted to bribe sexual assault survivors for their silence.
In addition to emails, we highly encourage you to send physical mail to Provost Etchemendy, President Tessier-Lavigne, and incoming Provost Drell at the following addresses:
John Etchemendy
Office of the Provost
Building 10
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-2061
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
Office of the President
Building 10
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-2061
Persis Drell
Office of the Dean
475 Via Ortega
Stanford, CA 94305-412
Thank you so much for your continued support, and feel free to reach out with any questions! Put [Question] in the subject line of your email and write to freethestanfordband@gmail.com.
With hope, funk, and determination,
Concerned Students
http://www.stanforddaily.com/ /editorial-board-stanford-sh /
https://docs.google.com/ /1mBRMuB-iVsCFMxZThon692WB8B /edit
(Photo is from yesterdays Rally In Support of LSJUMB at White Plaza)
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-11-2016
Thanks for sending this. I'll get on it. Mods, any chance we could temporarily pin this to the board so people have a few days to see this? Thanks!
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-11-2016
Thanks for sending this. I'll get on it. Mods, any chance we could temporarily pin this to the board so people have a few days to see this? Thanks!
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-11-2016
It isn't my best piece of writing (never my strong suit), but I'm hoping it will encourage some additional writing (and no one needs to share their private correspondence):
Dear President Tessier-Lavigne, Provost Etchemendy, and incoming Provost Drell,
I am an alum from the Class of '85. Yes, I was there when the Band stormed the field at Cal before the game was over, but I didn't blame them. (His knee WAS down and there was a forward lateral. In today's video review world, we would have rightly been awarded the victory and John Elway would have gone to his only collegiate bowl game, but I digress.)
The point is, LSJUMB was a brobdingnagian reason I absolutely loved my four years at Stanford. Had I not come from a tiny international school in Japan, I would have liked to have joined it, but in any case I totally enjoyed their contributions to my Stanford experience, and they shaped my subsequent love for classic rock, which I have passed on to my son and daughter, probably by osmosis and irritating repetitive playing as background music to my life thereafter.
As mentioned, I was never in the Band, but I had many friends who were, and I even played music with a couple of them. To me, they are always an essential part of my Stanford life, even 30+ years later.
Fast forward to the present, and I have a son who is living out my dreams by actually being IN the Band. Until then, I never actually appreciated how much time, effort, sweat, and tears (I haven't yet witnessed blood so I won't mention that) were expended for our entertainment. What do they get, 1 unit of credit per quarter? Do you know how many hours are spent at rehearsal, at composing communication and coordinating activities? Have you seen how early they start on a football game day, playing for "The Walk", then at various tailgates, then pregame, halftime, and postgame? Easily an 8hr day just on Saturday, and we're talking about running, scrambling, jumping, dancing, losing pounds of sweat, and generally rocking out, all for love of music, the team, and all things Stanford. And it's not just football; there's men's and women's basketball, there's volleyball, there are appearances at community parades and charitable causes. Everywhere the Band goes, it brings an extra level of energy and joy--pure joy because of the music.
They are not doing this to receive thanks. They aren't looking for a medal. They spend a heck of a lot of their own time and effort and energy for love of Stanford and love of music. But as things now stand, that love, the support, the positive energy, won't be there for the rest of this academic year, not just for away games, when our teams could really use some friendly support, but even for home games. In fact, I fully expect that you will hear from the athletic teams about how much the support of the Band means to them. But I'll let them make their case.
I have read the letters where they have allegedly "failed" at meeting standards set forth for their continued existence. I do not wish to antagonize anyone, but as someone who has spent some 15 years in the financial world, I have to say that what is being required of the Band is almost stricter than what I see the Securities & Exchange Commission require of the hedge fund industry. The difference is, some hedge funds were trying to screw over their investors and make themselves insane amounts of money in the process. Here, a bunch of students with 15-18 unit courseloads in engineering and CS are just trying to "bring funk to the funkless."
My sincere hope is that you don't deprive the entire Stanford community (students, including musicians and athletes, and fans, and even non-fans) of an essential Stanford experience. You can't stop the music. You shouldn't stop the music. Let the winds of freedom blow.
Respectfully and Cardinal-ly yours,
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-11-2016
It isn't my best piece of writing (never my strong suit), but I'm hoping it will encourage some additional writing (and no one needs to share their private correspondence):
Dear President Tessier-Lavigne, Provost Etchemendy, and incoming Provost Drell,
I am an alum from the Class of '85. Yes, I was there when the Band stormed the field at Cal before the game was over, but I didn't blame them. (His knee WAS down and there was a forward lateral. In today's video review world, we would have rightly been awarded the victory and John Elway would have gone to his only collegiate bowl game, but I digress.)
The point is, LSJUMB was a brobdingnagian reason I absolutely loved my four years at Stanford. Had I not come from a tiny international school in Japan, I would have liked to have joined it, but in any case I totally enjoyed their contributions to my Stanford experience, and they shaped my subsequent love for classic rock, which I have passed on to my son and daughter, probably by osmosis and irritating repetitive playing as background music to my life thereafter.
As mentioned, I was never in the Band, but I had many friends who were, and I even played music with a couple of them. To me, they are always an essential part of my Stanford life, even 30+ years later.
Fast forward to the present, and I have a son who is living out my dreams by actually being IN the Band. Until then, I never actually appreciated how much time, effort, sweat, and tears (I haven't yet witnessed blood so I won't mention that) were expended for our entertainment. What do they get, 1 unit of credit per quarter? Do you know how many hours are spent at rehearsal, at composing communication and coordinating activities? Have you seen how early they start on a football game day, playing for "The Walk", then at various tailgates, then pregame, halftime, and postgame? Easily an 8hr day just on Saturday, and we're talking about running, scrambling, jumping, dancing, losing pounds of sweat, and generally rocking out, all for love of music, the team, and all things Stanford. And it's not just football; there's men's and women's basketball, there's volleyball, there are appearances at community parades and charitable causes. Everywhere the Band goes, it brings an extra level of energy and joy--pure joy because of the music.
They are not doing this to receive thanks. They aren't looking for a medal. They spend a heck of a lot of their own time and effort and energy for love of Stanford and love of music. But as things now stand, that love, the support, the positive energy, won't be there for the rest of this academic year, not just for away games, when our teams could really use some friendly support, but even for home games. In fact, I fully expect that you will hear from the athletic teams about how much the support of the Band means to them. But I'll let them make their case.
I have read the letters where they have allegedly "failed" at meeting standards set forth for their continued existence. I do not wish to antagonize anyone, but as someone who has spent some 15 years in the financial world, I have to say that what is being required of the Band is almost stricter than what I see the Securities & Exchange Commission require of the hedge fund industry. The difference is, some hedge funds were trying to screw over their investors and make themselves insane amounts of money in the process. Here, a bunch of students with 15-18 unit courseloads in engineering and CS are just trying to "bring funk to the funkless."
My sincere hope is that you don't deprive the entire Stanford community (students, including musicians and athletes, and fans, and even non-fans) of an essential Stanford experience. You can't stop the music. You shouldn't stop the music. Let the winds of freedom blow.
Respectfully and Cardinal-ly yours,
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - TreesAndBirds - 12-11-2016
Beautiful letter JJJ.
I couldnt help thinking of American Pie by Don McLean....the day the music died.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - TreesAndBirds - 12-11-2016
Beautiful letter JJJ.
I couldnt help thinking of American Pie by Don McLean....the day the music died.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-12-2016
Thank JJJ, very good stuff. I plan to write my own letter in the next few days. I'll post it too once I have a chance to polish it off.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-12-2016
Thank JJJ, very good stuff. I plan to write my own letter in the next few days. I'll post it too once I have a chance to polish it off.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - stupac2 - 12-12-2016
Here's my offer:
Quote:Dear Stanford Administrators,
I am a Stanford alumnus (2009), legacy (father MS 1988), and married to an alumna (MS 2007). My wife and have football season tickets, and were planning on adding a third for our seven-month-old son. I am introducing myself this way to make it clear that Stanford has been and hopefully will remain an integral part of my life.
But I was dismayed to hear about the disbanding of the band. It has me questioning everything about my relationship to Stanford. I wasn't in band, but had several close friends who were, and fondly remember them at events like roll-out. I look at the Wikipedia list of controversial actions as a source of pride, knowing that my alma mater could produce and stand by such an irreverent organization. Since graduating I've frequently requested bowl tickets that are nearer to the band, and at home games purposefully sit where they're easy to hear. I do my best to watch the field shows before kickoff and during halftime, and still get chills from their rendition of the anthem. I had been looking forward to watching them march up toward the stadium with my son next year, now I don't know if that will happen.
Can you imagine a game without All Right Now after scores? Can you imagine a game without field shows that make you laugh? (Well, I suppose that's getting more and more plausible as they've gotten more and more sanitized and anodyne.) Can you imagine a band like USC's, with matching uniforms and unpainted, glimmering sousaphones tromping around on Foster field, but in Cardinal and White? I can't, and I don't want to be forced to find out.
This news has me seriously reconsidering my season tickets. It would be an incredibly difficult choice, but if the administration is going to axe something so integral to the Stanford experience because of a few trifling concerns, and punish students for alleged sins of those who have since graduated, then why should I continue to support it? You must realize that an independent band is more important to Stanford's image and traditions than nearly anything else. Without the band we're Harvard but with good weather. With the band we're Stanford. I hope you can come to realize this.
Thank you,
Stuart Coleman
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - stupac2 - 12-12-2016
Here's my offer:
Quote:Dear Stanford Administrators,
I am a Stanford alumnus (2009), legacy (father MS 1988), and married to an alumna (MS 2007). My wife and have football season tickets, and were planning on adding a third for our seven-month-old son. I am introducing myself this way to make it clear that Stanford has been and hopefully will remain an integral part of my life.
But I was dismayed to hear about the disbanding of the band. It has me questioning everything about my relationship to Stanford. I wasn't in band, but had several close friends who were, and fondly remember them at events like roll-out. I look at the Wikipedia list of controversial actions as a source of pride, knowing that my alma mater could produce and stand by such an irreverent organization. Since graduating I've frequently requested bowl tickets that are nearer to the band, and at home games purposefully sit where they're easy to hear. I do my best to watch the field shows before kickoff and during halftime, and still get chills from their rendition of the anthem. I had been looking forward to watching them march up toward the stadium with my son next year, now I don't know if that will happen.
Can you imagine a game without All Right Now after scores? Can you imagine a game without field shows that make you laugh? (Well, I suppose that's getting more and more plausible as they've gotten more and more sanitized and anodyne.) Can you imagine a band like USC's, with matching uniforms and unpainted, glimmering sousaphones tromping around on Foster field, but in Cardinal and White? I can't, and I don't want to be forced to find out.
This news has me seriously reconsidering my season tickets. It would be an incredibly difficult choice, but if the administration is going to axe something so integral to the Stanford experience because of a few trifling concerns, and punish students for alleged sins of those who have since graduated, then why should I continue to support it? You must realize that an independent band is more important to Stanford's image and traditions than nearly anything else. Without the band we're Harvard but with good weather. With the band we're Stanford. I hope you can come to realize this.
Thank you,
Stuart Coleman
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-12-2016
(12-12-2016, 11:34 AM)stupac2 link Wrote:Here's my offer:
Quote:Dear Stanford Administrators,
I am a Stanford alumnus (2009), legacy (father MS 1988), and married to an alumna (MS 2007). My wife and have football season tickets, and were planning on adding a third for our seven-month-old son. I am introducing myself this way to make it clear that Stanford has been and hopefully will remain an integral part of my life.
But I was dismayed to hear about the disbanding of the band. It has me questioning everything about my relationship to Stanford. I wasn't in band, but had several close friends who were, and fondly remember them at events like roll-out. I look at the Wikipedia list of controversial actions as a source of pride, knowing that my alma mater could produce and stand by such an irreverent organization. Since graduating I've frequently requested bowl tickets that are nearer to the band, and at home games purposefully sit where they're easy to hear. I do my best to watch the field shows before kickoff and during halftime, and still get chills from their rendition of the anthem. I had been looking forward to watching them march up toward the stadium with my son next year, now I don't know if that will happen.
Can you imagine a game without All Right Now after scores? Can you imagine a game without field shows that make you laugh? (Well, I suppose that's getting more and more plausible as they've gotten more and more sanitized and anodyne.) Can you imagine a band like Under Stanford Control (again)'s, with matching uniforms and unpainted, glimmering sousaphones tromping around on Foster field, but in Cardinal and White? I can't, and I don't want to be forced to find out.
This news has me seriously reconsidering my season tickets. It would be an incredibly difficult choice, but if the administration is going to axe something so integral to the Stanford experience because of a few trifling concerns, and punish students for alleged sins of those who have since graduated, then why should I continue to support it? You must realize that an independent band is more important to Stanford's image and traditions than nearly anything else. Without the band we're Harvard but with good weather. With the band we're Stanford. I hope you can come to realize this.
Thank you,
Stuart Coleman
Terrific letter. Thanks for sending it, and thanks for sharing it. As soon as my crushing work schedule relents and I have time to put fingers to keyboard, I'll contribute mine as well.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - 2006alum - 12-12-2016
(12-12-2016, 11:34 AM)stupac2 link Wrote:Here's my offer:
Quote:Dear Stanford Administrators,
I am a Stanford alumnus (2009), legacy (father MS 1988), and married to an alumna (MS 2007). My wife and have football season tickets, and were planning on adding a third for our seven-month-old son. I am introducing myself this way to make it clear that Stanford has been and hopefully will remain an integral part of my life.
But I was dismayed to hear about the disbanding of the band. It has me questioning everything about my relationship to Stanford. I wasn't in band, but had several close friends who were, and fondly remember them at events like roll-out. I look at the Wikipedia list of controversial actions as a source of pride, knowing that my alma mater could produce and stand by such an irreverent organization. Since graduating I've frequently requested bowl tickets that are nearer to the band, and at home games purposefully sit where they're easy to hear. I do my best to watch the field shows before kickoff and during halftime, and still get chills from their rendition of the anthem. I had been looking forward to watching them march up toward the stadium with my son next year, now I don't know if that will happen.
Can you imagine a game without All Right Now after scores? Can you imagine a game without field shows that make you laugh? (Well, I suppose that's getting more and more plausible as they've gotten more and more sanitized and anodyne.) Can you imagine a band like Under Stanford Control (again)'s, with matching uniforms and unpainted, glimmering sousaphones tromping around on Foster field, but in Cardinal and White? I can't, and I don't want to be forced to find out.
This news has me seriously reconsidering my season tickets. It would be an incredibly difficult choice, but if the administration is going to axe something so integral to the Stanford experience because of a few trifling concerns, and punish students for alleged sins of those who have since graduated, then why should I continue to support it? You must realize that an independent band is more important to Stanford's image and traditions than nearly anything else. Without the band we're Harvard but with good weather. With the band we're Stanford. I hope you can come to realize this.
Thank you,
Stuart Coleman
Terrific letter. Thanks for sending it, and thanks for sharing it. As soon as my crushing work schedule relents and I have time to put fingers to keyboard, I'll contribute mine as well.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - Phogge - 12-12-2016
A great basketball band. Ok for football. Hopefully they retain the spirit but the student announcers have been stupendously horrible. Bring back Michelson.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - Phogge - 12-12-2016
A great basketball band. Ok for football. Hopefully they retain the spirit but the student announcers have been stupendously horrible. Bring back Michelson.
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-13-2016
Friends of LSJUMB facebook page (just so it's also on this pinned post):
http://www.facebook.com/groups/344976432539385/
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - JJJ - 12-13-2016
Friends of LSJUMB facebook page (just so it's also on this pinned post):
http://www.facebook.com/groups/344976432539385/
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - martyup - 12-14-2016
I said this in another post, but I feel it should be repeated here. I believe that this administration has decided that the LSJUMB is too offensive for today's society. The tradition of poking fun at opponents' fans, traditions, and communities does not align with the current move on college campuses to ban anything that might offend anyone. IMO, the administration is using alcohol and other incidents to reach their goal of culling this "offensive" organization from our school. So, all of the arguments to the administration about how great the tradition of the band and how it helps the members cope at Stanford will fall on deaf ears.Â
The argument to the administration, IMO, should be that it should resist pressure to censor free speech because it might offend someone somewhere. The LSJUMB is like SNL. It takes current events and pokes fun and uses satire. There is nothing wrong with that, despite the gripings of Iowa fans about FarmersOnly.com, etc. The Stanford administration should stand behind the band's right to ruffle a few feathers. Instead, it is taking a cowardly approach that will strip the LSJUMB of its character and uniqueness.Â
Re: What you can do to support LSJUMB - martyup - 12-14-2016
I said this in another post, but I feel it should be repeated here. I believe that this administration has decided that the LSJUMB is too offensive for today's society. The tradition of poking fun at opponents' fans, traditions, and communities does not align with the current move on college campuses to ban anything that might offend anyone. IMO, the administration is using alcohol and other incidents to reach their goal of culling this "offensive" organization from our school. So, all of the arguments to the administration about how great the tradition of the band and how it helps the members cope at Stanford will fall on deaf ears.Â
The argument to the administration, IMO, should be that it should resist pressure to censor free speech because it might offend someone somewhere. The LSJUMB is like SNL. It takes current events and pokes fun and uses satire. There is nothing wrong with that, despite the gripings of Iowa fans about FarmersOnly.com, etc. The Stanford administration should stand behind the band's right to ruffle a few feathers. Instead, it is taking a cowardly approach that will strip the LSJUMB of its character and uniqueness.Â