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Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - CornFed - 09-14-2018

As opposed to the thoroughly unlikeable Walt Harris, I have always thought well of Buddy Teevens.  Perhaps this did not arise from Buddy's outcomes during his time spent as Stanford's head coach, but I've had the general sense that he is a "good guy" and open to innovation.  

He may have been TOO much of a nice guy to be a Div I head coach.  The performances of his teams at that level were not distinguished.  He just did not seem to have EUMK.

He did embrace automated tackling dummies at Dartmouth, which were intended to reduce injuries from such drills.  I don't know if they stuck with that experiment, or if any other schools followed his lead.

Now, though, he is breaking new ground again.  This effort may not be quite as head-scratching.  He has hired college football's first female assistant coach.  She sounds like she is passionate about the sport and enthusiastic about the opportunity.  Good luck to her.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2018/09/13/dartmouth-hires-alexandria-native-as-first-female-division-i-college-football-coach/

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - Hurlburt88 - 09-14-2018

Good perspective.   Much more to this gentleman than his record as our head coach!

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - terry - 09-14-2018

Buddy Teevens appears to have landed in the right spot for his abilities. He has been at Dartmouth ever since Stanford fired him and it seems to have worked out well for him.

It took Teevens several years to get Dartmouth on the right track after he arrived in 2005, but he finally built a pretty good program. In the last four seasons, Dartmouth has gone 29-11, with one Ivy championship and two second-place finishes.

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - barrister7 - 09-14-2018

(09-14-2018, 11:08 AM)terry Wrote:  Buddy Teevens appears to have landed in the right spot for his abilities. He has been at Dartmouth ever since Stanford fired him and it seems to have worked out well for him.

It took Teevens several years to get Dartmouth on the right track after he arrived in 2005, but he finally built a pretty good program. In the last four seasons, Dartmouth has gone 29-11, with one Ivy championship and two second-place finishes.

Buddy was and is a nice guy.  (At least as compared to Walt Harris)  His primary problem at Stanford was the decision to do away with
the successful format created by Tyrone in the prior years.  This combined with mediocre coaching ability was his downfall.

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - Hey - 09-14-2018

(09-14-2018, 12:25 PM)barrister7 Wrote:  Buddy was and is a nice guy.  (At least as compared to Walt Harris)  His primary problem at Stanford was the decision to do away with
the successful format created by Tyrone in the prior years.  This combined with mediocre coaching ability was his downfall.

I don't remember the story exactly, but I lost all respect for Teevens after the way he verbally undressed Teyo Johnson on the sidelines.

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - BostonCard - 09-14-2018

(09-14-2018, 12:25 PM)barrister7 Wrote:  
(09-14-2018, 11:08 AM)terry Wrote:  Buddy Teevens appears to have landed in the right spot for his abilities. He has been at Dartmouth ever since Stanford fired him and it seems to have worked out well for him.

It took Teevens several years to get Dartmouth on the right track after he arrived in 2005, but he finally built a pretty good program. In the last four seasons, Dartmouth has gone 29-11, with one Ivy championship and two second-place finishes.

Buddy was and is a nice guy.  (At least as compared to Walt Harris)  His primary problem at Stanford was the decision to do away with
the successful format created by Tyrone in the prior years.  This combined with mediocre coaching ability was his downfall.

He (and Wlat) was also hurt by the reign of she who shall not be named as director of admissions.  We had a lost decade until Harbaugh righted the ship and Richard Shaw fixed the admissions issues.  It is probably worth mentioning that Shaw started at Stanford in 2005 and admitted his first class in 2006.  We went to the Sun Bowl three years later.

BC

lex24 - lex24 - 09-14-2018

Let’s not revise history. I’m sure he was and is a prince. He also was in way over his head at Stanford. I don’t care if he is Albert Schweitzer. He was an awful head coach and helped destroy the program for about a decade. Course I place even more blame on Ted Leland.
You left out Bob Bowlsby. You never seems to get the credit he deserves for building the football program


(09-14-2018, 07:56 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  
(09-14-2018, 12:25 PM)barrister7 Wrote:  
(09-14-2018, 11:08 AM)terry Wrote:  Buddy Teevens appears to have landed in the right spot for his abilities. He has been at Dartmouth ever since Stanford fired him and it seems to have worked out well for him.

It took Teevens several years to get Dartmouth on the right track after he arrived in 2005, but he finally built a pretty good program. In the last four seasons, Dartmouth has gone 29-11, with one Ivy championship and two second-place finishes.

Buddy was and is a nice guy.  (At least as compared to Walt Harris)  His primary problem at Stanford was the decision to do away with
the successful format created by Tyrone in the prior years.  This combined with mediocre coaching ability was his downfall.

He (and Wlat) was also hurt by the reign of she who shall not be named as director of admissions.  We had a lost decade until Harbaugh righted the ship and Richard Shaw fixed the admissions issues.  It is probably worth mentioning that Shaw started at Stanford in 2005 and admitted his first class in 2006.  We went to the Sun Bowl three years later.

BC


RE: lex24 - BostonCard - 09-14-2018

(09-14-2018, 08:08 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Let’s not revise history. I’m sure he was and is a prince. He also was in way over his head at Stanford. I don’t care if he is Albert Schweitzer.  He was an awful head coach and helped destroy the program for about a decade.  Course I place even more blame on Ted Leland.
You left out Bob Bowlsby. You never seems to get the credit he deserves for building the football program

My list was not meant to be exhaustive, and a lot of things, including a new stadium, helped.  The bottom line is Harbaugh + Bowlsby + Shaw >>>>> Buddy/Wlat + Ted Leland + Robin Mamlet

BC

RE: lex24 - Mick - 09-15-2018

Just after he was hired, I had a Stanford football conversation with Buddy Teevens...for 45 minutes.  And as much as I enjoyed it, I thought "he really shouldn't be speaking with the likes of me for 45 minutes."

On the other end of the spectrum, I met Wlat Harris.  A rude individual, with fresh hubris from his 52-44 Pitt record where he had two ranked teams in eight years.

RE: Buddy Teevens - college football pioneer - winflop - 09-15-2018

(09-14-2018, 07:13 AM)CornFed Wrote:  As opposed to the thoroughly unlikeable Walt Harris, I have always thought well of Buddy Teevens

At one point I thought well of Buddy as a person but just thought he wasn't up to the job. That was until I saw him high-five a player coming off the field after getting flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct during a Big Game (I believe his last?) in which Stanford had several personal fouls & unsportsmanlike conduct penalties.

RE: lex24 - JPR36 - 09-15-2018

(09-15-2018, 12:18 AM)Mick Wrote:  Just after he was hired, I had a Stanford football conversation with Buddy Teevens...for 45 minutes.  And as much as I enjoyed it, I thought "he really shouldn't be speaking with the likes of me for 45 minutes."

On the other end of the spectrum, I met Wlat Harris.  A rude individual, with fresh hubris from his 52-44 Pitt record where he had two ranked teams in eight years.

Wlat may have been a jerk, but he did a pretty decent job of taking a Pitt team that had been in the doldrums and ultimately getting them in a BCS game.
That's why I had hopes for him at Stanford, but things obviously didn't work out.

Buddy was an affable guy who was out of his league coaching a team at Stanford's level. He's where he ought to be now, coaching in a low key environment where it's nice if you win, but nobody gets too excited if you don't. I mean, after all, it's just a game.