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RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 11:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Do y'all realize early signing day is December 18, or just 9 days away? How many new as yet public commits will Stanford sign between now and then, and who will they be?

You'll find out in 9 days. :)

My guess 1-2 more now, and a couple more in Feb.


RE: Class of 2020 - BostonCard - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:21 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 11:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Do y'all realize early signing day is December 18, or just 9 days away? How many new as yet public commits will Stanford sign between now and then, and who will they be?

You'll find out in 9 days. :)

My guess 1-2 more now, and a couple more in Feb.

Guessing that if that sort of thing is OutsiderFan's jam, he could probably have a good idea sooner for $9.99/month

BC


RE: Class of 2020 - OutsiderFan - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 12:21 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 11:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Do y'all realize early signing day is December 18, or just 9 days away? How many new as yet public commits will Stanford sign between now and then, and who will they be?

You'll find out in 9 days. :)

My guess 1-2 more now, and a couple more in Feb.

Are more recruits taking their time now that the early signing period is no longer something new that has to be jumped on? I don't think Stanford had anyone join the class after early signing day last year.  Perhaps the Big Visit Weekend can actually help land someone this year?


RE: Class of 2020 - Goose - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 01:29 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 12:21 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:  
(12-09-2019, 11:53 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Do y'all realize early signing day is December 18, or just 9 days away? How many new as yet public commits will Stanford sign between now and then, and who will they be?

You'll find out in 9 days. :)

My guess 1-2 more now, and a couple more in Feb.

Are more recruits taking their time now that the early signing period is no longer something new that has to be jumped on? I don't think Stanford had anyone join the class after early signing day last year.  Perhaps the Big Visit Weekend can actually help land someone this year?

Wouldn't Feb signings more probably be guys that haven't yet been admitted in December?


RE: Class of 2020 - OutsiderFan - 12-09-2019

(12-09-2019, 01:55 PM)Goose Wrote:  Wouldn't Feb signings more probably be guys that haven't yet been admitted in December?

Yes. My point is that no such examples existed last year. Thus my question about whether some recruits are not jumping on the early signing period now that it is no longer a new thing. IOW, I'm trying to understand if this year is the exception to the rule, or if last year was. It may just be random, but those who are following this stuff closer might have some idea of specific dynamics at work that are making more guys comfortable with waiting longer. It is quite evident Stanford Football has facilitated earlier signings, even though they prefer later ones.


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019



PWO ILB who had an offer from SJSU. Here's his film: http://www.hudl.com/profile/1411658/Anson-Pulsipher

This isn't who I meant when I said I'm expecting another commit or two, but I'm always happy to get high-quality PWOs!


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2019



And another PWO, an OL from St. James Academy (KS), Jenna Gray's alma mater. Had an offer from Air Force.


RE: Class of 2020 - OutsiderFan - 12-10-2019

Is Berzins a walk-on or scholarship offer? Seems odd that 247 would have him on its commit list if he was a walk-on.

Anson Pulsipher looks impressive on his Junior Hudl video. Curious to see a Senior reel and if he played any ILB this year, but he absolutely appears to be a real football player who will make.a positive impact on the field.


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 04:44 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Is Berzins a walk-on or scholarship offer? Seems odd that 247 would have him on its commit list if he was a walk-on.

Anson Pulsipher looks impressive on his Junior Hudl video. Curious to see a Senior reel and if he played any ILB this year, but he absolutely appears to be a real football player who will make.a positive impact on the field.

Berzins a PWO. FWIW 247 had the 3 PWOs from last class (B Jones, Sanborn, Lush) listed as commits as well.

Pulsipher played 4-3 OLB - more similar to a 3-4 ILB since there's much more coverage involved than pass rush - the whole season this year. He racked up 141 tackles, 11 TFLs, and 7 ints. https://www.hudl.com/video/3/1411658/5def1225d2263c0df8aafc61


RE: Class of 2020 - BostonCard - 12-10-2019

Assessment of the class from PAC-12 nets Yogi Roth.




What’s not commented on is the front 7.

BC


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 02:57 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Assessment of the class from PAC-12 nets Yogi Roth.




What’s not commented on is the front 7.

BC

What front 7? Is that something you're supposed to have? Someone better tell the coaches!


RE: Class of 2020 - OutsiderFan - 12-10-2019

Every coach worth a damn harps about the importance of recruiting. 

The top coaches know they have to bust their butts to RECRUIT players, because there is significant outreach to the best prospects as coaches compete for them. Shaw basically says "they need to come to us."  Unbelievable, really.


RE: Class of 2020 - martyup - 12-10-2019

The pool of 3*+ players that could get admitted to Stanford is limited.  I'm confident that Shaw's staff works that small pool as hard as necessary.


RE: Class of 2020 - BostonCard - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 04:02 PM)martyup Wrote:  The pool of 3*+ players that could get admitted to Stanford is limited.  I'm confident that Shaw's staff works that small pool as hard as necessary.

Everyone can find room for improvement.

BC


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 04:02 PM)martyup Wrote:  The pool of 3*+ players that could get admitted to Stanford is limited.  I'm confident that Shaw's staff works that small pool as hard as necessary.

I am not.

At all.


RE: Class of 2020 - BostonCard - 12-10-2019

The complaint that such-and-such coach is a "lazy recruiter" is as old as recruiting.  I remember it being applied to Willingham when I was at Stanford (rumor had it that he preferred to take rounds on the Stanford golf course to recruiting), and I have certainly seen people make that accusation about Shaw.  I have seen enough anecdotal data about cases where our inability to identify a recruit early enough in the cycle, or our unwillingness to visit him, or to bring him in for a visit before "big visit" has potentially cost us said recruit to believe that we have not yet reached the point of diminishing returns on recruiting.  That the pool of 3*+ players who could get into Stanford is limited should call for more, not less effort on each, since there are fewer players to divide effort amongst, and each one is more valuable.

Now, all that being said, it is easy for us to sit here asking for someone else to do more work.  It's easy to ask somebody else to get on a plane, fly thousands of miles, be away from his family, stay at a crappy hotel, all to pretend to like some parents bland meatloaf and tell some 17-year-old how great they could be in Cardinal and White.  It's easy to ask for anther person to review yet more mind numbing film in the hopes of finding another diamond in the rough.  Yes, Shaw makes $5 million plus a year, and perhaps in that context it is not too much to ask him to take a couple more such trips a year.  And I very much believe that there is a lot of background work that could be made much more efficient in the entire recruiting process, so this is by no means written to suggest that Shaw has maximized what he can get out of recruiting.  But it is also worth reminding ourselves that Shaw has a young family, and as much as we would selfishly love it if he sacrificed them entirely and devoted every waking moment to football and recruiting, like anyone else he too is looking around for the right balance, and sometimes that might mean that he calls it a night and writes one less handwritten note to a recruit reaffirming our interest.

At least unlike the rest of us, he isn't wasting his time writing missives on an anonymous message board.

BC


RE: Class of 2020 - 82lsju - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 05:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  At least unlike the rest of us, he isn't wasting his time writing missives on an anonymous message board.



BC

are you sure about that.........


RE: Class of 2020 - cardcrimson - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 05:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  At least unlike the rest of us, he isn't wasting his time writing missives on an anonymous message board.

BC

What makes you so sure he's not. . . .

I am David Shaw!

Didn't see yours until after I posted mine. . . .twisted minds think alike.

(12-10-2019, 05:20 PM)82lsju Wrote:  
(12-10-2019, 05:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  At least unlike the rest of us, he isn't wasting his time writing missives on an anonymous message board.



BC

are you sure about that.........

Question. If Stanford is going to provide tuition for all students whose family earns less than $150k, wouldn't it make sense to have those players whose family earns less than $150k to be a PWO (and still have their schooling paid for by Stanford), and save the scholarships for players whose family earn more than $150k? Am I missing something?


RE: Class of 2020 - Goose - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 05:34 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Question. If Stanford is going to provide tuition for all students whose family earns less than $150k, wouldn't it make sense to have those players whose family earns less than $150k to be a PWO (and still have their schooling paid for by Stanford), and save the scholarships for players whose family earn more than $150k? Am I missing something?

What you may be missing is that families who earn less than $150,000 still have to pay for room and board, unless the student qualifies for some other scholarship. Not nearly as much money, but still not zero. Does PWO status provide the same benefits in the admissions process as a full scholarship?


RE: Class of 2020 - SamuelMcF - 12-10-2019

(12-10-2019, 06:35 PM)Goose Wrote:  Does PWO status provide the same benefits in the admissions process as a full scholarship?

No.