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When to fire a BB coach after his third year - oldalum - 03-22-2019
When he goes 0-18 in conference (Vandy). On the other hand, Vandy's third-year WBB coach went 2-15 against conference opponents and is still there.
(a combined 2-33 this year in conference basketball games: sheesh. At least we've got our women!)
RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - BobK - 03-22-2019
Drew the men’s Coach is now not the coach. Out today
RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - BostonCard - 03-22-2019
(03-22-2019, 09:02 PM)BobK Wrote: Drew the men’s Coach is now not the coach. Out today
I think that was the point. The question is when do you fire a BB after his third season? The answer, as given by oldalum is "When he goes 0-18 in conference"
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RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - winflop - 03-25-2019
Apparently the Weenies think differently. Wyking Jones out as MBB HC. I was wondering what took them so long.
RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - oldalum - 03-25-2019
yes we've raised the bar to 3-15 after 2 years. But the point really is that record isn't everything (unless it's 0-16); the Cal A.D. saw some improvement in fits and starts but did not see a "wide path" to becoming exceptional. Another factor is that Wyking Jones had never been a head coach, let alone a successful head coach, so one might pull the trigger faster if he showed clear signs of not being head coach level. By contrast, Vandy's 2-15 women's head coach had been a successful WNBA head coach who had moved to college coaching for family/lifestyle reasons.
In addition to reportedly being a "basketball guy," Muir has been seeing film on a lot of good teams as part of the NCAA Selection Committee. I suspect he has a very good handle on where we are now and how likely we are to get much better. YMMV from his of course
RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - BostonCard - 03-25-2019
Yeah, Jones was fired after two years at Cal, but he "led" the Bears to two last-place finishes in the Pac-12 and a 5-29 conference record.
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RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - 76lsjumb - 03-25-2019
(03-25-2019, 09:18 AM)BostonCard Wrote: Yeah, Jones was fired after two years at Cal, but he "led" the Bears to two last-place finishes in the Pac-12 and a 5-29 conference record.
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...and a victory [almost two] over Haase's team this season... :-(
RE: When to fire a BB coach after his third year - winflop - 03-25-2019
(03-25-2019, 07:43 AM)oldalum Wrote: yes we've raised the bar to 3-15 after 2 years. But the point really is that record isn't everything (unless it's 0-16); the Cal A.D. saw some improvement in fits and starts but did not see a "wide path" to becoming exceptional. Another factor is that Wyking Jones had never been a head coach, let alone a successful head coach, so one might pull the trigger faster if he showed clear signs of not being head coach level. By contrast, Vandy's 2-15 women's head coach had been a successful WNBA head coach who had moved to college coaching for family/lifestyle reasons.
In addition to reportedly being a "basketball guy," Muir has been seeing film on a lot of good teams as part of the NCAA Selection Committee. I suspect he has a very good handle on where we are now and how likely we are to get much better. YMMV from his of course
I don't think the "Muir's a basketball guy" argument holds water anymore.