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WBB: Stanford 72 BYU 63 - 81alum - 03-23-2019
Preview:
BYU is 50th according to Massey, for comparison USC is 40 and Davis is now 72. BYU is 26-6 and is on a 9 game winning streak after defeating Auburn today. They rather handily beat Gonzaga for the WCC league championship--that is probably the scariest fact about them. They also beat Gonzaga two other times in close games during the regular season.
I watched BYU defeat Auburn today and felt they were a skilled team with three capable guards--and a fourth actually has better stats on the season than the three who scored double digits today. All three shoot between 34-36% of their treys, and while they are not as fast or quick as our players, they are skilled, and managed to get behind the more athletic Auburn players on fast breaks quite often. They also have a 6'7" center who is capable of making some layups, but very skinny and not that nimble. They played a lot of zone, and nearly blew their sizable lead at the end when Auburn turned them over, stole inbounds passes, and otherwise flustered them--as they also did in the 1st quarter.
In a lot of ways they seem a bit like Davis to me, except their center is not nearly as gifted offensively, but their guards are more versatile. One--Chase--is deceptively quick and got loose for 19 points today. On Monday, BYU won't have anyone who can remotely guard Alanna unless they consistently double her. We will need to guard 3 perimeter players and prevent them from getting open lanes to the basket or open three point shots. The Hulls promise to have a lot of defensive work to do.
Overview:
We overcame a stunningly bad 1/12 start to our three point shooting, appalling free throw shooting (8/19), and 6 gift points in a row near the end of the game--and still we managed to win relatively comfortably. We held BYU shooting ace Brenna Chase scoreless until deep in the second half, and then Alanna Smith who had been quiet all night finally started to connect and broke out for 19 of her 23 points.
Flow of the Game:
The game did not start well, when Smith turned it over and BYU got a fast break layup. Williams scored a trey and a layup, but as the first quarter developed the BYU zone flumoxed us. We seemed to have difficulties penetrating and getting the ball inside, and our three point shooting went cold. After that first three point shot by Williams, we missed the next 12 in a row before Carrington finally sank two. At the end of the first quarter we were behind 15-11 and our offense looked dreadful, with some of our misses not being close. Alanna was visibly upset with herself and I worried it would get inside her head.
The second quarter was considerably better with a 20-14 exchange that gave us a narrow 31-29 halftime lead. Carrington was the main reason the second quarter was not as dreadful as the first. She went 3/4 from three point range and aggressively attacked the basket and netted herself 4 free throw attempts. Unfortunately she missed 3 of them. Still she had 12 points while Smith was stuck on 4. Several of us in the stands speculated on what Tara would tell the team at halftime, but we knew that our team could not continue to shoot that badly indefinitely.
And yes, the third quarter dramatically turned the game around. We outscored them 22-9 in the quarter. After BYU took a 35-34 lead at the 7:50 mark, we went on a 16-0 run keyed by treys by Williams, Lexie Hull, and Smith and also including layups by Carrington and Smith. By the end of the third the game felt much different than it had up to that point.
The fourth quarter was subpar and we very nearly gave BYU a chance to get back in the game. Turnovers had been minimal all game, but BYU put in a press and pressured our inbounds passes and scored 6 points in less than 30 seconds after interceptions and steals. Tara called a time out and after than we closed the game out by shooting free throws (badly.)
Performances:
Carrington's first half and Smith's second half were impressive and kept us in the game offensively, and Kiana was steady as always. (Smith 23 points, 14 rebounds. Carrington 16 points, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks and a steal. Williams 13 points 5 assists.) But I would single out Wilson and Williams for their defense of BYU shooting ace Brenna Chase, who had 0 points until 5:50 in the game. Shannon Coffee had 5 points and a crowd-pleasing trey in her final game at Maples.
On the other hand, we gave up 32 points to Shaylee Gonzalez, who was 4/4 from three point range and 4/4 for her free throws. I guess we picked our poison and she was it. BYU has a bright future with that freshman!
Here is a shocking stat: BYU 26 points in the paint. Stanford: 24. And another: Fast Break points: BYU 10 Stanford 2. Three point shooting: BYU 44% Stanford 34%. Points off turnovers: BYU 13, Stanford 7. Looking at those stats you would have thought we lost the game. There really isn't any single stat that favors Stanford so much you can say "that was it." We had one more made basket, we had a few more free throws, a couple more blocks, etc. The accumulation of a series of little advantages helped us overcome some glaring weaknesses.
Conclusion:
Let's all hope that this game was an aberration, since this level of play will get us quick tickets home, and soon. Both long range and free throw shooting absolutely must improve. Now it is on to Chicago for Missouri State, and if we get by them, the winner of Notre Dame vs. A&M.
Hard to believe we have seen the last of Alanna Smith and Shannon Coffee, and maybe Marta Sniezek at Maples. It seems like yesterday we were peering at Alanna's video from international play the summer before her freshman year. I think I said something like she had All-American potential. Never happier to be right!
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - chrisk - 03-23-2019
(03-23-2019, 07:08 PM)81alum Wrote: Preview:
The time has been released and Stanford will play a late game against BYU at 8pm Pacific on Monday.
BYU is 50th according to Massey, for comparison USC is 40 and Davis is now 72. BYU is 26-6 and is on a 9 game winning streak after defeating Auburn today. They rather handily beat Gonzaga for the WCC league championship--that is probably the scariest fact about them. They also beat Gonzaga two other times in close games during the regular season.
I watched BYU defeat Auburn today and felt they were a skilled team with three capable guards--and a fourth actually has better stats on the season than the three who scored double digits today. All three shoot between 34-36% of their treys, and while they are not as fast or quick as our players, they are skilled, and managed to get behind the more athletic Auburn players on fast breaks quite often. They also have a 6'7" center who is capable of making some layups, but very skinny and not that nimble. They played a lot of zone, and nearly blew their sizable lead at the end when Auburn turned them over, stole inbounds passes, and otherwise flustered them--as they also did in the 1st quarter.
In a lot of ways they seem a bit like Davis to me, except their center is not nearly as gifted offensively, but their guards are more versatile. One--Chase--is deceptively quick and got loose for 19 points today.
On Monday, BYU won't have anyone who can remotely guard Alanna unless they consistently double her. We will need to guard 3 perimeter players and prevent them from getting open lanes to the basket or open three point shots. The Hulls promise to have a lot of defensive work to do.
As I mentioned in the other thread, the Stanford game will be the only game on at 8pm on ESPN2. The earlier games will be sharing ESPN feeds.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - TheFarm07 - 03-23-2019
(03-23-2019, 07:08 PM)81alum Wrote: They rather handily beat Gonzaga for the WCC league championship--that is probably the scariest fact about them. They also beat Gonzaga two other times in close games during the regular season.
Yes, BYU beat Gonzaga 3 times including by 14 in the WCC tournament finals, but the Zags did not have Laura Stockton or Jill Townsend in that game (their 2nd and 4th leading scorers). So take that result with a little caveat.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - 81alum - 03-23-2019
(03-23-2019, 07:39 PM)TheFarm07 Wrote:Thanks for pointing that out, which makes me feel a little better. When they played them in Spokane they beat them by only 2 points with Stockton and Townsend both playing. Townsend tied the game on a 2 point jumper with 1:00 left, and BYU won when Zykera Rice (the blue haired player) committed a foul with 2 seconds left and Paisley Johnson converted 2 free throws. Obviously, it was a very tight game.(03-23-2019, 07:08 PM)81alum Wrote: They rather handily beat Gonzaga for the WCC league championship--that is probably the scariest fact about them. They also beat Gonzaga two other times in close games during the regular season.
Yes, BYU beat Gonzaga 3 times including by 14 in the WCC tournament finals, but the Zags did not have Laura Stockton or Jill Townsend in that game (their 2nd and 4th leading scorers). So take that result with a little caveat.
The Zags, incidentally, have advanced to play Oregon State in the 2nd round--with a pretty easy win over Little Rock. The only team they lost to this year other than BYU was Notre Dame. BYU somehow had their number.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - 81alum - 03-24-2019
Thanks to Malcom McFall for pointing this out over on the FBC preview: Brenna Chase, who certainly caught my eye in their game against Auburn, buried 7 treys in BYU's championship win over Gonzaga. That kid is peaking at the right time.
https://fbc-previews.blogspot.com/
In reviewing the BYU schedule, I see that both Cal and Utah beat them last fall, Cal by 18 and Utah by 11. That is a long time ago, of course.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - BobK - 03-24-2019
Chase hit several threes from 25 feet. Hard to Guard that. Loved the BYU players who drove so hard knocked to the ground and scored
We gave Bertsch a standing O when she came out. She was outstanding
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - CompSci87 - 03-24-2019
(03-24-2019, 04:39 AM)81alum Wrote: Thanks to Malcom McFall for pointing this out over on the FBC preview: Brenna Chase, who certainly caught my eye in their game against Auburn, buried 7 treys in BYU's championship win over Gonzaga. That kid is peaking at the right time.
https://fbc-previews.blogspot.com/
In reviewing the BYU schedule, I see that both Cal and Utah beat them last fall, Cal by 18 and Utah by 11. That is a long time ago, of course.
Watch out for no-look passes from Chase too.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - M T - 03-24-2019
As I recall, BYU won't play games on Sunday, which is why they're in a Saturday-Monday region. Does that mean they don't practice on Sunday? Did (can) Stanford practice on Sunday, preparing for BYU?
While BYU may have the capability for hitting 3s (3 starters each at 35%, accounting for 86% of their 3pt attempts), they didn't quite get there against Auburn. Just 5 of 19 (about 1 shy of their average 3PT attempts).
BYU's opponents got 32.9% of the potential offensive rebounds compared to 31.8% for BYU.
An often-starting forward #3 Shalae Salmon (big 6'3") has fouled out 5 times this year, averaging just under 19 minutes per game. She must have been injured as she missed 4 games.
The 6'7" Sara Hamson started on Saturday, just her 10th start of the season. She also missed a couple of games. With her height, she's hitting 57% of her FGs.
The 3 starting guards are 5'9", 5'9", 5'10". Breanna Chase has a few more steals than TO. A/TO ratios are about 1.6, 1.5, 1.9.
Name confusion alert. SHAYLEE Gonzalez is a 5'10" starting guard. SHALAE Salmon is a 6'3" forward.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - crackpot - 03-24-2019
(03-24-2019, 03:37 PM)M T Wrote: As I recall, BYU won't play games on Sunday, which is why they're in a Saturday-Monday region. Does that mean they don't practice on Sunday? Did (can) Stanford practice on Sunday, preparing for BYU?
BYU did not practice on Sunday, but did meet their interview obligations. Stanford did practice
https://www.ksl.com/article/46517074/no-sunday-play-policy-has-byu-womens-hoops-preparing-for-ncaa-run-in-unique-way
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - M T - 03-24-2019
A heads-up that it seems ESPN2 may not have the BYU@Stanford game listed on their schedule and that may impact your TV schedule.
As of 11PM PDT Sunday, for me, the ESPN schedule at espn.com (http://www.espn.com/watch/schedule?startDate=20190325&type=upcoming) does not list the Stanford 8PM PDT game. From that page, if I select to show only ESPN2, no WBB games are mentioned.
My Xfinity schedule (https://www.xfinity.com/stream/listings) for my SF Bay Area Comcast does show the game scheduled at 8PM PDT on ESPN2.
My TiVo schedule (which should show the Xfinity schedule) matches what is on the ESPN schedule, so does not list the game. So I will have to figure out how to do a manually scheduled recording.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - crackpot - 03-25-2019
Odd. I went to check out the DirecTV #, and this doesn't list it, but says ESPN2
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26311321/2019-women-ncaa-tournament-tv-s-maps-channels
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - Spiny_Norman - 03-25-2019
An appetizer for the main event tonight. UCLA knocks out Big 10 champ Maryland in College Park and advances to the Sweet 16 vs. UConn.
Cal vs. Baylor and Oregon State vs. Gonzaga are early in their games.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - mbdude - 03-25-2019
may be the worst shooting quarter we've had - shots aren't even close
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - d4cohn - 03-25-2019
(03-25-2019, 08:26 PM)mbdude Wrote: may be the worst shooting quarter we've had - shots aren't even close
Also sloppy in holding onto the ball. BYU going for steals early.
Everything contested for Stanford. BYU getting some open looks.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - TheFarm07 - 03-25-2019
(03-25-2019, 08:26 PM)mbdude Wrote: may be the worst shooting quarter we've had - shots aren't even close
Funny, I thought it was all too commonplace. Again the zone flummoxed us. Luckily our defense has held them to 30% shooting.
BYU is pumped up and we are giving them confidence. We need to find our offense soon.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - d4cohn - 03-25-2019
Well, that was a good run.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - mbdude - 03-25-2019
Hulls and smith 0 for 13 from 3. Kiana 1 for 5
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - d4cohn - 03-25-2019
2 pt lead at the half. Carrington is carrying us so far.
The 3 pt shooting has been pretty bad unfortunately.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - TheFarm07 - 03-25-2019
DiJonai has 3 of our 4 three-pointers.
Our long range shooting is atrocious 4/23 and so is our FT shooting: 3/8.
But that means our two-point shooting is 8/15 = +50%, we need to get the ball inside.
We are also being outrebounded 26 to 25.
RE: WBB: Stanford vs. BYU 8pm Monday - 2006alum - 03-25-2019
Well, the good new is we couldn't shoot much worse than we did and we still have a 2 point lead. The bad news is Missy is reffing this game and up to her usual nonsense, and we look scared. Their whole team seems to have mastered the teardrop jumper and are killing us with it. And I'm not sure we used a screen to generate a single basket in the first half. Sheesh.