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RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - BostonCard - 05-28-2019

In lieu of becoming a one and done, Hampton, who is one of the top recruits this cycle, elected to play basketball overseas in the Australian league.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/05/28/rj-hampton-skipping-college-basketball-what-ncaa-wants/1258702001/

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RE: RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - Genuine Realist - 05-28-2019

(05-28-2019, 06:40 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  In lieu of becoming a one and done, Hampton, who is one of the top recruits this cycle, elected to play basketball overseas in the Australian league.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2019/05/28/rj-hampton-skipping-college-basketball-what-ncaa-wants/1258702001/

BC

I could spare you the usual tirade about the NCAA amateurism rule, and I guess I will - but not the point. Thee's not a reason on God's green earth why a player in Hampton's position should not be able to take NBA money, on an option basis, and enroll in college. Do you stop kids from playing in the band because they're good enough to join the union? Or drama people who are talented enough to get equity cards?

You most assuredly don't. Just so, athletes. Why not?


RE: RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - BostonCard - 05-28-2019

The short reason is that there are no band competitions (or at least, none that anyone cares about) nor is there an national collegiate drama association that governs college plays.

Collegiate athletics has already been perverted by money.  For me the argument for paying players is that for the main sports (football, basketball, baseball, etc) the idea that it is an amateur endeavor is a farce anyways so why not just bow to the obvious.

On the flip side, for the vast majority of student athletes, the alternative to playing collegiate sports is not to play professional sports, but to enter the workforce or be regular students.  Guys like Hampton get all the attention, but there are a lot more Josh Sharma's than there are RJ Hampton's in the world.

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RE: RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - CTcard - 05-28-2019

(05-28-2019, 06:44 PM)Genuine Realist Wrote:  I could spare you the usual tirade about the NCAA amateurism rule, and I guess I will - but not the point. Thee's not a reason on God's green earth why a player in Hampton's position should not be able to take NBA money, on an option basis, and enroll in college. Do you stop kids from playing in the band because they're good enough to join the union? Or drama people who are talented enough to get equity cards?

You most assuredly don't. Just so, athletes. Why not?

I might reply that there's not a good reason on God's green earth (isn't it kind of blue?) why a player in Hampton's position should not be able to take NBA money and simply play in the NBA.

As far as I can tell, Mr. Hampton doesn't have any particular desire to enroll in college.

For that matter, there isn't any reason that Hampton couldn't take whatever money he could find and still enroll in college, he just couldn't play in NCAA sanctioned basketball games. While I guess this isn't entirely parallel to your musicians and actors, I also cannot identify the music/acting equivalent of NCAA competitions.


RE: RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - donkey687 - 05-28-2019

That article nails it. This guy won't start a new trend because playing in front of small crowds for a six figure salary across the globe is not likely his path to maximize long term earnings.  Zion Williamson made himself a lot more money (in future endorsement value) by playing for Duke this year than he would have gotten playing overseas. College is still the best path to the NBA for most of these players which really defeats the argument that the players should get paid.  The players choose college over other fee paying opportunities like G-league or playing overseas because they are better off playing in college for free. It is their choice. If they don't want to play for free and have the college experience and exposure, pull an RJ.


RE: RJ Hampton bypasses College basketball - Genuine Realist - 05-28-2019

(05-28-2019, 06:53 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  The short reason is that there are no band competitions (or at least, none that anyone cares about) nor is there an national collegiate drama association that governs college plays.

Collegiate athletics has already been perverted by money.  For me the argument for paying players is that for the main sports (football, basketball, baseball, etc) the idea that it is an amateur endeavor is a farce anyways so why not just bow to the obvious.

On the flip side, for the vast majority of student athletes, the alternative to playing collegiate sports is not to play professional sports, but to enter the workforce or be regular students.  Guys like Hampton get all the attention, but there are a lot more Josh Sharma's than there are RJ Hampton's in the world.

BC

(05-28-2019, 09:00 PM)CTcard Wrote:  
(05-28-2019, 06:44 PM)Genuine Realist Wrote:  I could spare you the usual tirade about the NCAA amateurism rule, and I guess I will - but not the point. Thee's not a reason on God's green earth why a player in Hampton's position should not be able to take NBA money, on an option basis, and enroll in college. Do you stop kids from playing in the band because they're good enough to join the union? Or drama people who are talented enough to get equity cards?

You most assuredly don't. Just so, athletes. Why not?

I might reply that there's not a good reason on God's green earth (isn't it kind of blue?) why a player in Hampton's position should not be able to take NBA money and simply play in the NBA.

As far as I can tell, Mr. Hampton doesn't have any particular desire to enroll in college.

For that matter, there isn't any reason that Hampton couldn't take whatever money he could find and still enroll in college, he just couldn't play in NCAA sanctioned basketball games. While I guess this isn't entirely parallel to your musicians and actors, I also cannot identify the music/acting equivalent of NCAA competitions.

I couldn't agree more, but the number of 18 year olds who can jump directly to the NBA is extremely limited. What I have in mind is the more ordinary kid with potential. I don't see any good reason why he can't take NBA (or NFL or MLD) money, and go on to school. It's a win-win for everybody.

I DON"T want to see schools paying athletes. That would be a horrible system. But kids taking money from unaffiliated third parties? What's the difference between a kid taking money from the Giants or Warriors, and a kid with a rich grandfather? Absolutely none.