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Women's Rowing - ColoradoTree - 05-31-2019

Stanford women's rowing competes for Stanford's seventh NCAA championship of the year starting today in Indianapolis. I'll defer to the experts on our chances, but considering how close the competition was at the Pac-12 tournament (where Stanford finished 2nd), and because the top three teams in the country hail from the Pac-12 (#1 UW, #2 Cal, #3 Stanford), it seems like a small boost in performance could see Stanford take home another trophy. 

Here's the Stanford preview: https://gostanford.com/news/2019/5/29/womens-rowing-ncaas-up-ahead.aspx
And here's a link to live results: http://www.regattatiming.com/results/502/

Schedule

They were supposed to have started already this morning, but rowing has been delayed several hours due to debris at the starting line from overnight storms. Preliminary heats and repechages are today, semifinals are tomorrow, and the finals in each race on Sunday morning. Top 2 in each heat make the A/B semifinals, with the rest to the repechages. The top 2 in each repechage race make the A/B semifinals, while the rest go to the C/D semifinals. The top 3 in each semifinal make the Grand (or "A") Final, while the lower 3 make the Petite (or "B") Final. (To have a chance to win the title, you need all three of your boats to make their respective A finals.)

Analysis

At Pac-12s, Stanford finished second in each race--I Varsity Eight, II Varsity Eight, III Varsity Eight, and Varsity Four. Washington won three races (Second and Third Varsity Eights and Varsity Four) while Cal won one (First Varsity Eight), resulting in Washington winning the Pac-12 with 39.5 points, Stanford finishing second with 39, and Cal finishing third with 38.5 points.

At NCAAs, though, I believe it's just three races that count--I and II Varsity Eights and the Varsity Four. In those races, here's how Stanford did vs. Washington and Cal, as they went 1-2-3 in each event:

I Varsity Eight: Stanford finished 0.933 seconds behind Cal and 0.38 seconds ahead of Washington
II Varsity Eight: Stanford finished 7.336 seconds behind UW and just 0.57 seconds ahead of Cal
Varsity Four: Stanford finished 8.334 seconds behind UW and 14.473 seconds ahead of Cal

As I understand it, the scoring system is as follows:

* The winner of the Varsity Four gets 22 points, second place 21, third place 20, etc.
* The winner of the II Varsity Eight gets 44 points, second place 42, third place 40, etc. (i.e., double the points for the Four)
* The winner of the I Varsity Eight gets 66 points, second place 63, third place 60, etc. (i.e., triple the points for the Four)

Thus, team depth is incredibly important. So, the recipe for the Stanford women seems pretty straightforward: pick up the second you need to win the I Varsity Eight (though the gap between Cal and Stanford has been bigger than just one second in other races this year), hold off Cal (and everyone else) for second in the II Varsity Eight, and hold onto second place in the Varsity Four, and that's just enough for a title (that would be 129 points; if UW finished 1st in both the II Eight and the Four and second in the I Eight, they'd also be on 129 points, but if teams are tied on points, the team with the higher placing in the I Eight is the NCAA champion). But even winning the I Eight won't be enough if Stanford doesn't stay right on UW's heels in the other two races.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 05-31-2019

Quote:Update: We are making considerable progress clearing the course of debris; however with safety and fairness as our top concerns, we are preparing for a 3 p.m. race start time. With the course opening 60-minutes prior for warm-up. With a 3 p.m. start time, we will adjust race centers to 10-minutes. Division I is eliminating its repêchages. The top-3 finishers in each heat will progress to the A/B semifinals. The remainder will progress to the C/D semifinals.



RE: Women's Rowing - cardcrimson - 05-31-2019

(05-31-2019, 09:07 AM)ColoradoTree Wrote:  Stanford women's rowing competes for Stanford's seventh NCAA championship of the year starting today. I'll defer to the experts on our chances, but considering how close the competition was at the Pac-12 tournament (where Stanford finished 2nd), and because the top three teams in the country hail from the Pac-12, it seems like a small boost in performance could see Stanford take home another trophy. 

Here's the Stanford preview: https://gostanford.com/news/2019/5/29/womens-rowing-ncaas-up-ahead.aspx
And here's a link to live results: http://www.regattatiming.com/results/502/

They were supposed to have started already this morning, but rowing has been delayed several hours due to debris at the starting line from overnight storms.

Would be a great feat indeed. Though not sure how we'll ever get past that USC boat featuring Olivia Jade and Bella Giannulli.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 05-31-2019

Stanford's I Varsity Eights' heat is now scheduled for 1pm pacific.
II Varsity Eights' heat is scheduled for 1:40.
Varsity Fours' heat is scheduled for 2:10.

(05-31-2019, 09:53 AM)cardcrimson Wrote:  Would be a great feat indeed. Though not sure how we'll ever get past that USC boat featuring Olivia Jade and Bella Giannulli.

Would you believe that despite being loaded with those ringers USC didn't make it to the NCAA championships?


RE: Women's Rowing - ColoradoTree - 05-31-2019

The elimination of repechages is an interesting wrinkle, but for a team that needs to finish top 2 overall in all three events, finishing top 3 in the seeded heats (where they won't see UW or Cal) shouldn't be too much of a hurdle.

Stanford's competition in the heats (ranking is overall team ranking):

I Eight: Rhode Island, #14 Rutgers, #5 Michigan, #16 Harvard, Marist
II Eight: #12 Iowa, #17 Duke, #4 Texas, #11 Wisconsin, Marist
Four: Navy, #9 Yale, #17 Duke, UCF

I'm paying attention to women's rowing for maybe the third day all year (the admissions scandal was the first, and noting how Stanford finished second in Pac-12s was the second), so you should discount everything I say, really, but those heats look pretty manageable. We get Texas once and Michigan once, but we miss #6 Ohio State, #7 Brown, #8 Princeton, and #10 UVA. 

I don't see national rankings by boat, but those do exist by region. In those, Harvard is the 4th-ranked I Eight boat in the Northeast, behind Princeton, Brown, and Yale. In the Central Region, Michigan is the 3rd-ranked I Eight boat behind Ohio State and Iowa. (We're the 3rd-ranked I Eight in the West, behind Cal and UW.)  For the II Eights, Iowa is not among the Top 6 in their region despite its overall team ranking, Texas is 2nd and Duke is 3rd in the South region, and Wisconsin is 3rd in the Central (behind Michigan and Ohio State). For the Fours, Navy is 1st in the Mid-Atlantic Region (though not sure that means much overall--they're first in each category in the region but unranked nationally), Yale is 2nd in the Northeast (behind Brown), Duke is 4th in the South, and UCF is 6th in the Central.

Bottom line: we should win each heat.


RE: Women's Rowing - BigEasyCard - 05-31-2019

Cardinal win Heat 3 of I Eights with unofficial time of 6:09.  Michigan second at 6:15.

Geaux Cardinal!


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 05-31-2019

Aww yeah.  

[twitter]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134569187307794432[/twitter]

Cal took first in its V8 heat with a time of 06:08.673.  
Washington was second in its heat with a time of 06:09.394.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 05-31-2019

Second Varsity Eight also won their heat.  

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134581162158972928[/tweet]

Washington won its heat with a time of 06:19.507.  
Cal won its heat with a time of 06:24.858.

And Stanford's Varsity Four also won its heat.  

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134589772440064000[/tweet]

Washington won its heat in a time of 07:02.901.  

Cal, in the same heat as UW, finished 2nd in 07:06.649.


RE: Women's Rowing - BostonCard - 05-31-2019

What is the correlation between heat results and final results?  Since Cal and UW were in the same heat, did they compete harder to win their heat?  I note that except for our second eight, none of our races were all that competitive, so did we just keep some in the tank for the final?

BC


RE: Women's Rowing - bnarver - 05-31-2019

Cal is in heat 1 for the I Eights A/B semifinals.  Stanford and UW are in heat 2.  Cal and UW are in heat 1 for the II Eights A/B semifinals.  Stanford is in heat 2. There's a problem with reporting the results of the Fours, so I can't say which teams are in each semifinal heat.

Edit: Fours are now in. UW is in heat 1. Stanford and Cal are in heat 2.


RE: Women's Rowing - fullmetal - 05-31-2019

I'm pleased to see that Stanford was essentially untouched in their 1V and V4+ heats.  They should have some gas in the tank saved for later.  (Indeed, without reps, there were no really close races for the coveted third-place qualifying spot...10 of 12 D1 events had over a boat length between the last qualifier and the next competitor.)

The 2V had a dogfight with Texas that might have cost both boats some unnecessary lactic acid.  Still, I like their chances to advance to the A Final, as I do for both of the other Stanford boats.

After the early season losses to kal, UW, and Texas, the heat results are very encouraging.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-01-2019

Cardinal advances to the Grand Final with a second-place finish in the V8 semifinals.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134832771057143808[/tweet]


Cal won the other semifinal in 06:31.252

Stanford wins its 2V8 semifinal.  

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134836555439378433[/tweet]

In the other 2V8 semifinal:  

1. Washington - 06:52.663
4. Cal - 06:54.402


Which I think means that Cal will miss the Grand Final in 2V8.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-01-2019

Stanford V4 wins its semifinal.  

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1134842630301290496[/tweet]

Washington won the other semifinal in 07:35.938



So it looks like 5 schools made all 3 Grand Finals: Stanford, Washington, Texas, Michigan, and Ohio State.  But not Cal.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-01-2019

If I understand the points system correctly, these are the points at stake for the teams participating in tomorrow's grand finals and petite finals.

[Image: HDWdilk.png]

So Cal missing the 2V8 Grand Final is brobdingnagian.  They'll have a hard time making up those points if the most they can get in that race is 32.  

Here's hoping more of that 2018-19 Cardinal magic shows up tomorrow!


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-02-2019

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1135187092072349697[/tweet]

UW was 1st
Cal was 5th

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1135193191685140481[/tweet]

UW was 1st.
Cal was 1st in the petite final, so 7th overall.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-02-2019

[tweet]https://twitter.com/StanfordRowing/status/1135195643452911616[/tweet]

UW was 1st
Cal was 6th

So that's a sweep of all three races for Washington.


RE: Women's Rowing - terry - 06-02-2019

It looks like Stanford will finish 4th overall, behind Washington, Texas, and Michigan.


RE: Women's Rowing - Canalejas - 06-02-2019

It's not a record-breaking seventh NCAA championship.  But at least we get some Directors' Cup points.  

With UW's victory the Pac-12 now has twelve NCAA team championships in 2018-19.  

6 by Stanford.  
1 each by Colorado, USC, Utah, Cal, UCLA, and Washington.  

The conference took home 12 last year, too.  Having either UCLA or UW in the softball final brings a chance at a 13th this year.


RE: Women's Rowing - fullmetal - 06-02-2019

Tough to see the 4th places after the semi results might have promised so much, but these are honestly good results given how competitive the finals are these days.  Any given Sunday :)

Congrats to the team for a podium finish!