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Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - JJJ - 08-28-2019

Quote:And in an effort to examine the story from an NFL scouting lens, I thought back to something I read a few days earlier — a story that I thought then had nothing to do with Luck — and wondered if there might be a connection.
I hope there isn’t. But the NFL has a way of conflating players’ personalities, intelligence and interests that made me fear it’s inevitable on some level.
Yahoo Sports’ Pete Thamel was the common thread here. He wrote an enlightening piece about the Luck he knew — the erudite, unlikely star who stayed at Stanford an extra year, despite the NFL’s clarion call as an eventually first-overall pick. It brought me back to the story Thamel wrote a few days earlier about another quarterback with rare gifts and academic interests.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-andrew-luck-justin-herbert-and-scouts-suspicion-of-book-smarts-173915365.html

RE: Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - JJJ - 08-29-2019

And Luck mentioned here along with others (including other sports) who retired young.

Quote:n the winter of 1973, the novelist and sportswriter Jack Ludwig profiled Montreal Canadiens goaltender Ken Dryden for Maclean’s magazine. At 25 years old, Dryden was already extremely decorated: Over the past two seasons he’d won a Stanley Cup, a Conn Smythe Trophy for postseason MVP, and a Calder Trophy for rookie of the year, in that order.
But Dryden, according to Ludwig’s descriptions, was Not Your Typical Hockey Guy. He was a horn-rimmed-glasses-wearing Ivy Leaguer from Cornell who “looked something like Clark Kent” and “was shockingly grammatical in speech.” After Dryden won his first Stanley Cup, Ludwig wrote, the goalie spent the summer studying the effects of pollution on fishermen in Virginia with Ralph Nader. Before Ludwig met Dryden, an NHL goal judge prepped him: “He’s so unlike a hockey player—you’ll see.”
That spring, the Canadiens won another title, Dryden’s second. The goalie then spent the entire 1973-74 season employed by a white-shoe Toronto law firm, of all places, holding out from Montreal for higher pay while preparing for his non-hockey future. Having secured both, he returned to the team for five more seasons, winning four more Stanley Cups; at the age of 31 he up and retired in his prime, saying he wanted to write a book and take the bar and get on with the rest of his life. He compared his emotions to “the way you feel when you’re going to get married.”
Forty years after that Maclean’s story, in a 2013 piece for Grantland, my colleague Robert Mays wrote about another compelling if slightly unorthodox young athlete, Andrew Luck, the then-24-year-old Indianapolis Colts quarterback who had gone first overall in the 2012 draft and was considered the future of the NFL. Like Dryden, who earned the starting job from longtime stalwart Rogie Vachon, Luck had replaced a franchise legend, Peyton Manning. Luck’s physical attributes were a bit jockier than Dryden’s—a “once-in-a-generation specimen,” Mays wrote of Luck, with a forearm that “looks like the barrel of a Louisville Slugger”—but his wonkish aura was much the same.
He used modus operandi in conversation; he was really, really into Settlers of Catan; he and his then girlfriend (and now wife) had both studied architecture at Stanford, where he led the Cardinal to their first bowl game in years. He may not have enjoyed Dryden’s improbable early successes once he turned pro, but by his third NFL season, in 2014, the Colts had made it to the AFC championship game and fallen to the Patriots in what felt like a rite of passage and the beginning of a new era. Instead, that would prove to be the furthest Indianapolis would advance during Luck’s career.
Beset by injuries ranging from a lacerated kidney, to a torn labrum in his shoulder requiring surgery, to more recent calf and ankle problems, Luck missed half of the 2015 season and all of 2017. Still, he returned last year to play the best football of his career, completing 67 percent of his passes for 4,593 yards and 39 touchdowns and somehow powering the Colts to the playoffs despite a 1-5 start, earning him Comeback Player of the Year honors in more ways than one and leaving fans rightly jazzed about the team’s future. This summer, FanDuel SportsBook’s MVP odds put Luck second behind only Kansas City’s Patrick Mahomes, while its Super Bowl odds saw the Colts tied for fifth.
All of which is why it was such a shock on Saturday night to learn that Luck, not yet 30 years old, was retiring from football, smack dab in the prime of his life, becoming the latest in an alternately doomed and dazzling group of athletes whose careers ended not with the fireworks of celebration but with an afterburn of a lost star. Like Dryden, Luck used the language of marriage in his farewell announcement, and not just because he thanked his wife. He also talked about a commitment he had made to himself as he navigated, more than once, the demoralizing purgatory between the sideline and the spotlight. “I’ve come to the proverbial fork in the road,” Luck said. “I made a vow to myself that if I ever did again, I would choose me.” On Saturday night, he kept the promise he’d made.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8/26/20832885/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-early-athlete-retirements

RE: Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - French Rage - 08-29-2019

As a Cornell alum, always good to see Cornell and Stanford get shout-outs like this for a good reason. Dryden also won a title for the Big Red in '67.

RE: Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - Mick - 08-31-2019

(08-29-2019, 02:14 PM)JJJ Wrote: And Luck mentioned here along with others (including other sports) who retired young.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8/26/20832885/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-early-athlete-retirements

John Frank was a second round pick of the 49ers out of tOSU. Terrific tight end. Retired after five years in the NFL, went to med school, became an otolaryngologist. Client of my first firm, when he visited our offices, I was shocked at how small he was, relatively speaking. My lasting memory of Frank was a play that he blocked Lawrence Taylor so effectively, that Taylor started whaling on him and drew a critical 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.

Frank retired at the peak of his career, having had successful fourth and fifth seasons. It was a surprise when he retired. The Niners replaced Frank with Brent Jones and 1989 2nd round pick Wesley Walls. Rest was history.

RE: Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - JohnR34231 - 08-31-2019

(08-31-2019, 10:56 AM)Mick Wrote:
(08-29-2019, 02:14 PM)JJJ Wrote: And Luck mentioned here along with others (including other sports) who retired young.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8/26/20832885/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-early-athlete-retirements

John Frank was a second round pick of the 49ers out of tOSU.  Terrific tight end.  Retired after five years in the NFL, went to med school, became an otolaryngologist.  Client of my first firm, when he visited our offices, I was shocked at how small he was, relatively speaking.  My lasting memory of Frank was a play that he blocked Lawrence Taylor so effectively, that Taylor started whaling on him and drew a critical 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.

Frank retired at the peak of his career, having had successful fourth and fifth seasons. It was a surprise when he retired. The Niners replaced Frank with Brent Jones and 1989 2nd round pick Wesley Walls.  Rest was history.

IIRC it was always Frank's plan to have a limited career in the NFL. not wanting to have injuries to his hands that would prevent him from being an MD.

RE: Luck, Herbert and Rosen mentioned - Mick - 08-31-2019

(08-31-2019, 11:22 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: 
(08-31-2019, 10:56 AM)Mick Wrote:
(08-29-2019, 02:14 PM)JJJ Wrote: And Luck mentioned here along with others (including other sports) who retired young.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/8/26/20832885/andrew-luck-indianapolis-colts-early-athlete-retirements

John Frank was a second round pick of the 49ers out of tOSU.  Terrific tight end.  Retired after five years in the NFL, went to med school, became an otolaryngologist.  Client of my first firm, when he visited our offices, I was shocked at how small he was, relatively speaking.  My lasting memory of Frank was a play that he blocked Lawrence Taylor so effectively, that Taylor started whaling on him and drew a critical 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.

Frank retired at the peak of his career, having had successful fourth and fifth seasons. It was a surprise when he retired. The Niners replaced Frank with Brent Jones and 1989 2nd round pick Wesley Walls.  Rest was history.

 IIRC it was always Frank's plan to have a limited career in the NFL. not wanting to have injuries to his hands that would prevent him from being an MD.

He said as much to me, that's correct.