MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - Printable Version

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MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - Viking_Guy - 09-28-2019

The stream was down, but Stanford gave up two early goals on set pieces, the first a scramble and the second a nice finish. They also didn't have a shot until more than 25 minutes in.

But UCSB got a HORRENDOUS giveaway by a Stanford CB, stream wasn't hi-res enough, but I think it was Hughes, who literally hit a ball about 5 yards in front of him directly to a Gaucho forward. That forward streamed forward 1v1 against Thomas, and Stanford's keeper came up with a brobdingnagian save. The Gauchos, sensing blood in the water, pushed forward... and promptly got burned on a counter.

Run up the right side by Richmond, maybe?, serves the ball in to Bouda and Wehan on the far post, Bouda knocks it down to an unmarked Arda Bulut, who calmly slots it home from about 10 yards.

Second half starting now.

https://bigwest.org/watch/default.aspx?Live=2288&path=ucsb

VG

RE: MSoc: Stanford 1 UCSB 2 (HT) - martyup - 09-28-2019

AYFKM??? I just started the stream to watch UCSB score the go ahead goal. I'm a curse!

RE: MSoc: Stanford 1 UCSB 2 (HT) - cardcrimson - 09-28-2019

(09-28-2019, 08:35 PM)martyup Wrote: AYFKM??? I just started the stream to watch UCSB score the go ahead goal. I'm a curse!

For the first time on the CARDboard, you are correct. . . .

RE: MSoc: Stanford 1 UCSB 2 (HT) - martyup - 09-28-2019

(09-28-2019, 08:57 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:
(09-28-2019, 08:35 PM)martyup Wrote: AYFKM??? I just started the stream to watch UCSB score the go ahead goal. I'm a curse!

For the first time on the CARDboard, you are correct. . . .

Wow, really?

Still watching and Stanford tied it up in the 85th minute!!

Overtime

RE: MSoc: Stanford 1 UCSB 2 (HT) - pefloresjr - 09-28-2019

I just tuned in the see the equalizer! Let's hope the team can keep the pressure on and get the win in OT.

Cheers,
Pete F.

RE: MSoc: Stanford 1 UCSB 2 (HT) - Viking_Guy - 09-28-2019

3-3, heading to overtime. Gauchos have a lot of skill, but make some head-scratchers in the midfield.

VG

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (going to OT) - martyup - 09-28-2019

Is UCSB ranked?

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (going to OT) - Viking_Guy - 09-28-2019

Nope. They’re 6-2 and a solid side. Losses to top 30 teams Virginia Tech and Cal. Win against Oregon state.

Their CB down with a major injury after landing on his GK as Beason hammered a corner kick off the right post. They are really short in the back line right now, with two other CBs unavailable.

About 2:30 left in first OT when they restart. Bringing on the ambulance.

Vg

End of first OT.

Not to be cold, but the long injury break killed Stanford’s momentum. Prior to the injury, they were cutting the Gauchos up.

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - martyup - 09-28-2019

How does a tie affect our ranking?

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - DenverCard - 09-28-2019

Couldn't get the live stream until 38 minutes of the first half had elapsed, and maybe that was a good thing. Per the running statistics, it appears that Stanford was almost run off the field for the first 30 minutes or so. But like last year in the NCAA playoffs when Akron was dominating them and took a 2-0 lead, the team has a tremendous amount of heart. For much of the remainder of the game Stanford really took it to UCSB. Stanford got a goal with about 3 minutes left in the first half, and another about 5 minutes into the second, and all of sudden it was 2-2.

And credit to Jeremy Gunn for some tactical changes that presumably the deficit prompted him to make. From what I could tell, he moved super-frosh Ousseni Bouda from striker to midfield, and played Zach Ryan and Arda Bulut up front. Just as the women have moved Macario to midfield, which in turn gives her more touches, Bouda was able to be much more of a factor operating a bit closer to the midfield. And he has never looked better. He looked like a threat to do damage every time he touched the ball.

Following a stretch when a UCSB midfielder with mad ball skills temporarily took over the game and then scored, putting Stanford down 3-2, Stanford again cranked up the pressure big time. And Coach Gunn made an interesting move, inserting Ryan Ludwig in as the last line of defense, moving Beason to left back, and I believe bringing in another midfielder or attacker. Ludwig started at right back much of last year, but this year has played quite sparingly, and only in garbage time. All of a sudden, he's in the middle and just in front of the goalkeeper. Who knows what went into that decision.

Stanford kept the pressure on, scored with 5 minutes left in the game, and was dominating in OT until, as VG pointed out, a severe injury to UCSB's top defender caused a 20-25 minute delay and the entire flow of the game stopped. (Terrible blow to the Gauchos and to that poor player, a senior.)

Along with the ultimate result (to come back from 2-0 against a good team that was supercharged for the game and had a large crowd), the spirit of Stanford, and Gunn's willingness to shake things up, I thought Stanford played with much more poise, and more elegantly, this game than any other. They were much more willing to pass it out of the back (apart from freshman Keegan Hughes* who treats the ball like a grenade when it's at his feet) and to pass it around on offense as well. Perhaps there was a sense of nothing-to-lose that caused them to take more chances.

(*Hughes is a very solid defender and the heir apparent to Tomas Hilliard-Arce and Tanner Beason as the next great Stanford dominate header.)

Kudos to Arda Bulut for maintaining focus in scoring the first goal, and for a diving header off the goal keeper that, after an errant shot became an effective pass, resulted in the final tying goal. Credit to Charlie Weehan for scoring that goal and being a solid threat. Derek Waldeck is the unsung hero of the team, as he displays excellent ball skills and most of the time the offense runs through him. Andrew Thomas in goal was his usual excellent self; it appears that he was screened when the third UCSB goal -- a shot he saves most of the time -- got by him.

There are few easy games in men's college soccer and the next two are likely to be the usual grind: UW on Thursday 10/3 and OSU Sunday 10/6. Washington has been on a tear, having pummeled UCLA last week 5-0 (with only a very curious loss to Northridge thus far), and OSU beat and tied Stanford last year. Recommended viewing for sure, either live or on the Pac-12 network.

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - Viking_Guy - 09-28-2019

Sorry, Chrome crashed as I was writing up a final report full of wit and repartee.

As I said, the injury delay, which was probably at least 15 minutes, completely neutralized what had been a brobdingnagian amount of momentum in favor of Stanford. The very play the injury happened was the third corner in the first 8 minutes of OT by Stanford, and Beason got a header in front of the player (Andruzzi?) who got injured coming down after trying to defend Tanner. Beason's header hit the inside of the right post and came away.

The best chance after that was after a horrendous turnover by Waldeck, who didn't have a great game. In OT, he hit a lazy cross out to Beason on the left after a restart, directly into the path of the Gaucho's most dangerous player. The end result was a shot that Thomas parried away, giving up the last good chances of the game to a Gauchos corner.

Waldeck also got burned badly by Michael, the Gauchos' big threat, on the third UCSB goal. Marking about 25 yards out, bites on a move inside, then pulls up and relaxes, beaten, as Michael hammers a wide-open 22 yarder that wrong-footed Thomas and snuck under the bar.

Thomas, by the way, had several spectacular saves. He gave up a bad first goal, not coming out to go after a ball that ended up squirting between him and the post on a backheel from about four yards out. The second he could do little about. But he stoned a breakaway, and had several other point-blank stops.

All in all, a disappointing, if not undeserved, result. Yes, they came back twice, but they also went down twice. And they came so close to pulling it out until an opponent injury completely stopped the game in its tracks, and never had a chance to develop much rhythm again.

VG

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - DenverCard - 09-28-2019

Additional note: The commentator on the streaming broadcast was ex-Stanford player Carson Vom Steeg, who was a frosh at Stanford in 2017, but then transferred to UCSB, where his father is the coach, after that year. He played for UCSB last year, but has not this year, so I assume he is injured. He also commentated during the Stanford-UCSB women's game a couple of weeks ago. He does a real nice job, especially considering his youth. He is well-informed about soccer, of course, and he shares useful insights and opinions. Has been very complimentary of Stanford during both games. And he never brings himself into the discussion; he gives no indication that he has played or that his father is the coach. (Refers to coach Vom Steeg in the third person.)

He was very highly regarded recruit -- I recall that Jeremy Gunn said that he was like a man among boys playing as a youth. I wish I knew what prompted him to leave Stanford: was it dissatisfaction about playing time, homesickness, desire to play for his dad, or other. Of course it's none of my business, but I feel a bit sad that he's not still with Stanford.

(09-28-2019, 10:44 PM)Viking_Guy Wrote: Sorry, Chrome crashed as I was writing up a final report full of wit and repartee.

As I said, the injury delay, which was probably at least 15 minutes, completely neutralized what had been a of immense proportions amount of momentum in favor of Stanford. The very play the injury happened was the third corner in the first 8 minutes of OT by Stanford, and Beason got a header in front of the player (Andruzzi?) who got injured coming down after trying to defend Tanner. Beason's header hit the inside of the right post and came away.

The best chance after that was after a horrendous turnover by Waldeck, who didn't have a great game. In OT, he hit a lazy cross out to Beason on the left after a restart, directly into the path of the Gaucho's most dangerous player. The end result was a shot that Thomas parried away, giving up the last good chances of the game to a Gauchos corner.

Waldeck also got burned badly by Michael, the Gauchos' big threat, on the third UCSB goal. Marking about 25 yards out, bites on a move inside, then pulls up and relaxes, beaten, as Michael hammers a wide-open 22 yarder that wrong-footed Thomas and snuck under the bar.

Thomas, by the way, had several spectacular saves. He gave up a bad first goal, not coming out to go after a ball that ended up squirting between him and the post on a backheel from about four yards out. The second he could do little about. But he stoned a breakaway, and had several other point-blank stops.

All in all, a disappointing, if not undeserved, result. Yes, they came back twice, but they also went down twice. And they came so close to pulling it out until an opponent injury completely stopped the game in its tracks, and never had a chance to develop much rhythm again.

VG

VG, you watch the game with more insight and discipline than I, so I defer to your opinion on Waldeck this game. Still, I think you'd agree he's been invaluable this year (and the previous ones as well).

Being critical of any particular player makes me cringe, as I regard them all as warriors for the Stanford family, but I wonder about your thoughts on Jared Gilbey. He seems to not provide as much impact as his position on the field would suggest he should, and he's been prone to a lot of giveaways, per my observation. It's got to be challenging to be the link between defense and offense, as well as the left and right side of the field, as you can be attacked from any direction, but I can't help but wonder if there is someone else who could do more in that position. (BTW, it looked like freshman Cam Cilley played some critical minutes in that role in tonight's game.)

RE: MSoc: Stanford 3 UCSB 3 (F) - Viking_Guy - 09-28-2019

DC--

Ditto on Carson as an announcer. Very even-handed, as was his partner, for the most part.

Faouzi Talib the name of the injured player. Very tough. But that long break allowed the Gauchos to find their legs again - they were really sucking wind in the beginning of the first OT, having both played a tough game and given up a late lead.

You're right, Waldeck normally is the workhorse playing cover in front of the defense. And normally, he's really solid. But that last giveaway was really tough. Stanford was setting up for its final push forward, and instead had to scramble cover a counter that turned into a couple of good chances against the run of play.

I think Beason moved wide to mark Michael, more than anything. He was tearing up the left side of our defense, and Tanner pretty much man-marked him for the last 30 minutes or so on defense.

The Gauchos were kind of disconnected - good attacking midfield, not bad backline, but a whole lot of open space in the middle, which let Stanford be more possession-oriented than they have been recently.

I think it's Ludwick. And Hughes was the beautiful flick on the near post off a corner that tied the game early in the second half.

VG

DC--

Waldeck is also in an exposed spot - if he gives up a bad ball, it's generally an instant counter-attack.

Yes, Gilbey has kind of disappeared in the last couple of games. Another player I keep waiting on is Panchot. Definitely skilled, but he hasn't had the impact I expected this year.

In any case, let me elaborate - a pretty good result if you consider going down 2-0 early and being down 3-2 late. And I may watch a replay of the first 40 minutes or so to see how the goals happened.

As far as ranking, I think UVa displaces us - they had a good win on the road against #20 Notre Dame, after a 1-0 OT win against Western Michigan at home. And I'm not sure Stanford is a top-4 team yet. Their win over Akron doesn't look great, as the Zips have gone 0-7 to start the season, with losses to Marshall and Pitt. Looking at it, tonight was only Stanford's third game against a team currently above .500 - 5-1-2 Penn State, 4-2-1 Cal, and tonight. The other five teams we've played have a combined THREE wins between them. Our RPI is going to suck.

VG