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Star wars - BostonCard - 12-22-2019
Apparently Mark Twain may have been thinking of the Star Wars universe when he said History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes.
Movie was better than the reviews made it out to be.
BC
RE: Star wars - 82lsju - 12-22-2019
bringing it back to Stanford sports.....
Quote:THE OBSESSION STARTED a long time ago, in a state far, far away, when they were just the size of Ewoks and not the Wookiee-sized big men they are today.
Brook and Robin Lopez grew up with a love of Star Wars. They were fascinated by the struggle between good and evil, the glow of lightsabers and a twisting storyline with unique characters (including twins!).
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/holidayhoops28330597/inside-brook-robin-lopez-star-wars-mad-dash
RE: Star wars - BostonCard - 12-22-2019
Also Solomon Thomas...
https://247sports.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/Article/Solomon-Thomas-is-the-San-Francisco-49ers-resident-Star-Wars-fanatic-112271158/
[tweet]https://twitter.com/sollythomas90/status/860194083779756032?s=21[/tweet]
BC
RE: Star wars - 2006alum - 12-22-2019
(12-22-2019, 05:55 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Movie was better than the reviews made it out to be.
Enjoyed the first two thirds and thought it unravelled poorly to finish things out. A few times towards the end I laughed out loud when I know that wasn't the screenwriters'/director's intention. I'd say each of episodes VII through IX was slightly worse than the last, with the middle one being the only one to add anything original to the six that came before. Unfortunately they spent most of this movie undoing that one in ways that "restored order to the [Star Wars Canon]" but felt like a cheap, uninteresting way out.
RE: Star wars - Phogge - 12-22-2019
Last one I saw was in 1976 stoned at the Alexandria. They were better shot on film with real models and motion control at ILM.
RE: Star wars - cardcrimson - 12-22-2019
(12-22-2019, 08:13 PM)Phogge Wrote: Last one I saw was in 1976 stoned at the Alexandria. They were better shot on film with real models and motion control at ILM.Simple question. How would you know if you haven't seen one since 1976?
RE: Star wars - 2006alum - 12-22-2019
(12-22-2019, 08:13 PM)Phogge Wrote: Last one I saw was in 1976 stoned at the Alexandria. They were better shot on film with real models and motion control at ILM.I'm impressed, since the first of the nine, A New Hope, wasn't released until 1977. Did you get a year-early sneak peak?
RE: Star wars - Phogge - 12-22-2019
Saw rushes on #4 and #6. Plus I knew half the crew.
76 or 77 difference didn’t make a lot of difference back then. I do know it was at the Alexandria.
RE: Star wars - BostonCard - 12-22-2019
Well, my daughter, who isn’t much of a Star Wars fan and didn’t come with us did guess one of the key plot points (gonna hold off on spoilers, even though this one was... predictable).
To me the movies are an enjoyable way to spend a couple of hours, and on that account IX largely succeeded. I don’t hold them to the same cultura significance as many people do, so I don’t tend to get let down as many real fans do when they don’t meet expectations.
BC
RE: Star wars - BobK - 12-22-2019
Very agree BC. I went today with my son and soon to be 8 year old grandson. They loved it I liked it.
RE: Star wars - magnus - 12-22-2019
Every time I see JJ's BFF Greg Gunberg make an appearance, it disrupts my immersion.
I liked it otherwise.
RE: Star wars - Mick - 12-23-2019
Not sure I'm going to make it to this one. I was 14 in 1977 when Star Wars came out. I saw it seven times, paying for the first four. The opening scene with the Imperial cruiser chasing the rebels -- whew. Hadn't seen anything like that before. Always thought Episode V was the best, but they've all been pretty good in their own way, Jar Jar Binks notwithstanding. Kasdan's writing was usually pretty good (slight aside, really liked his "Silverado" which reawakened a torpid genre). There's hints of Westerns in Star Wars.
Not sure if I'll see this last one. Maybe, just out of inertia. My kids didn't experience Star Wars in the same way. My oldest was 8, 11 and 14 when the prequels came out, but by then the special effects were fairly pedestrian. Not even certain they saw Episodes VII and VIII.
Just read that Lucas felt betrayed by Disney. They purchased all his treatments for the sequels, but chose their own plots and writers. According to Bob Iger, they were very clear with Lucas that they were going in their own direction.
https://www.nme.com/news/george-lucas-felt-betrayed-by-disney-direction-star-wars-sequel-trilogy-bob-iger-2551018
It still had a $175.5 million opening.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/star-wars-opens-to-massivebut-series-low-175-5-million-11577039960
And over $9 billion and counting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_films#Box_office_performance
RE: Star wars - cardcrimson - 12-23-2019
(12-23-2019, 07:34 AM)Mick Wrote: I was 14 in 1977 when Star Wars came out. I saw it seven times, paying for the first four. The opening scene with the Imperial cruiser chasing the rebels -- whew. Hadn't seen anything like that before.
Kasdan's writing was usually pretty good (slight aside, really liked his "Silverado" which reawakened a torpid genre). There's hints of Westerns in Star Wars.
Had a very similar experience with the opening scene. Was a big Star Trek fan, and couldn't understand the hype and the lines that summer. Finally went to see it, and wow. Amazing sequence that sucked me right in. As for the "westerns" tie in, what was the give away? Han, his attire, his trusty sidekick, his holstered blaster, the cantina of ruffians?
For me, the first one was the best. The second the most intriguing and well written . . .
RE: Star wars - BostonCard - 12-23-2019
A few years ago, the series “Everything is a Remix” analyzed the influences upon Star Wars.
https://youtu.be/sx15aXjcDZg
In addition to the Westerns mentioned here (the scene where Han shot first takes inspiration from a similar scene in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly), there are homages to Flash Gordon, Akira Kurasawa’s films, and loads of World War II battle scenes, among others. The short video is worth a watch.
BC
RE: Star wars - cardcrimson - 12-23-2019
(12-23-2019, 10:45 AM)BostonCard Wrote: A few years ago, the series “Everything is a Remix” analyzed the influences upon Star Wars.
In addition to the Westerns mentioned here (the scene where Han shot first takes inspiration from a similar scene in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly), there are homages to Flash Gordon, Akira Kurasawa’s films, and loads of World War II battle scenes, among others. The short video is worth a watch.
BC
Thanks for sharing. Amazing how much it resembled other movies. . . .
RE: Star wars - cctop - 12-23-2019
(12-22-2019, 08:13 PM)Phogge Wrote: Last one I saw was in 1976 stoned at the Alexandria. They were better shot on film with real models and motion control at ILM.
Fun fact: the new Star Wars TV show "The Mandalorian" did several space shots using a practical model and a motion-control rig. Ostensibly they did it that way to get a look resembling the original movies, but really it was just for fun.
Another fun fact: the last former motion-control camera operator at ILM just retired a few weeks ago. Now there's just one employee left who worked on the original trilogy, plus a handful of others who worked with cameras and the optical printer back in the 1980's before Jurassic Park was released and everything turned to computers.
On the topic of "The Mandalorian", the show is using an incredible new technology using a giant (230') LED screen with real-time rendered backgrounds in place of greenscreens, so the actors feel like they're really in the scene and you get perfect reflections on his shiny armor. You honestly would never guess which shots were a visual effect.
Even if you're not a Star Wars fan, I think "The Mandalorian" is worth watching. The character is an obvious homage to John Wayne and Clint Eastwood. If you're not a Disney+ subscriber, you can pay $7 for one month and watch all eight episodes once the last one drops this Friday.
RE: Star wars - BostonCard - 12-23-2019
The whole series is worth a watch. In addition to Star Wars Kirby Ferguson, who put the series together, discusses remixes in everything from "Stairway to Heaven" to Quentin Tarantino films. It's a four part series, well worth the hour or so it takes to watch.
https://vimeo.com/14912890 (Part 1: music)
https://vimeo.com/19447662 (Part 2: films)
https://vimeo.com/19447662 (Part 3: the interplay of inspiration and creativity)
https://vimeo.com/36881035 (Part 4: the interplay of intellectual property and remixes)
And lastly, a new video (that I hadn't seen before) very relevant to this thread, about the Force Awakens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=PKvsc6a03Es&feature=emb_logo
BC
RE: Star wars - martyup - 12-25-2019
After The Last Jedi, I had low expectations for The Rise of Skywalker. However, I really enjoyed the movie! I'm much more satisfied with the ending of this saga than I was with Game of Thrones.
CCTOP is right about The Mandalorian, it's excellent. BTW, the guy who plays the lead was Prince Oberon in GOT. He's the guy who gets his head squashed by The Mountain.
RE: Star wars - winflop - 12-26-2019
(12-25-2019, 01:18 PM)martyup Wrote: I'm much more satisfied with the ending of this saga than I was with Game of Thrones.
That's like saying I was more satisfied with the 2019 football season than I was with 2006's
RE: Star wars - JJJ - 12-26-2019
Went to an IMAX theater with the entire family yesterday and, having had virtually no previous knowledge of this episode, really enjoyed it. (Well, not the 30 minutes of previews beforehand.) Sure, there were a couple of questionable story parts, but in general, well worth the price of admission and good entertainment on a rainy Christmas Day. (and the kids, 24 & 22, have seen every episode before this multiple times.)