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Man dies after injesting chloroquine - BostonCard - 03-23-2020
https://www.axios.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-death-09c91a91-4fe7-472c-9de9-79b890aa8fff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
When Trump tweeted about the cure being worse than the disease, maybe he should have been thinking of this.
BC
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - cardcrimson - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 02:15 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.axios.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-death-09c91a91-4fe7-472c-9de9-79b890aa8fff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
When Trump tweeted about the cure being worse than the disease, maybe he should have been thinking of this.
BC
Yup, clearly Trump's fault for this death and the ones in Nigeria that CNN was blaming him for.
Interesting read you linked--great info from Axios! Thought chloroquine phosphate was a malaria drug only available with a prescription; who knew that it's sold in every salt water aquarium store in the country? Apparently it's a wonder drug used to treat all sorts of salt water parasites and diseases. Fortunately, found some on my shelf, as it looks like there's been a run on the stuff.
https://aquariumstoredepot.com/products/chloroquine-phosphate
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - 2006alum - 03-23-2020
I have a feeling the competition for the Darwin Awards is going to be especially stiff in 2020.
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - 82lsju - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 02:40 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Yup, clearly Trump's fault for this death and the ones in Nigeria that CNN was blaming him for.
Interesting read you linked--great info from Axios! Thought chloroquine phosphate was a malaria drug only available with a prescription; who knew that it's sold in every salt water aquarium store in the country? Apparently it's a wonder drug used to treat all sorts of salt water parasites and diseases. Fortunately, found some on my shelf, as it looks like there's been a run on the stuff.
https://aquariumstoredepot.com/products/chloroquine-phosphate
from the hospital that treated them, link was in the Axios article
Quote:“Given the uncertainty around COVID-19, we understand that people are trying to find new ways to prevent or treat this virus, but self-medicating is not the way to do so,” said Dr. Daniel Brooks, Banner Poison and Drug Information Center medical director. “The last thing that we want right now is to inundate our emergency departments with patients who believe they found a vague and risky solution that could potentially jeopardize their health.”
A man has died and his wife is under critical care after the couple, both in their 60s, ingested chloroquine phosphate, an additive commonly used at aquariums to clean fish tanks. Within thirty minutes of ingestion, the couple experienced immediate effects requiring admittance to a nearby Banner Health hospital.
http://bannerhealth.mediaroom.com/trending-now-at-banner?item=122999
and from the renowned medical journal Fortune
Quote:"The drug touted by the U.S. President Donald Trump as a possible line of treatment against the coronavirus comes with severe warnings in China and can kill in dosages as little as two grams.
China, where the deadly pathogen first emerged in December, recommended the decades-old malaria drug chloroquine to treat infected patients in guidelines issued in February after seeing encouraging results in clinical trials. But within days, it cautioned doctors and health officials about the drug’s lethal side effects and rolled back its usage.
This came after local media reported that a Wuhan Institute of Virology study found that the drug can kill an adult just dosed at twice the daily amount recommended for treatment, which is one gram."
https://fortune.com/2020/03/20/malaria-drug-coronavirus-treatment-chloroquine-trump-musk-deadly-china/
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - BostonCard - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 02:40 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(03-23-2020, 02:15 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.axios.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-death-09c91a91-4fe7-472c-9de9-79b890aa8fff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
When Trump tweeted about the cure being worse than the disease, maybe he should have been thinking of this.
BC
Yup, clearly Trump's fault for this death and the ones in Nigeria that CNN was blaming him for.
Interesting read you linked--great info from Axios! Thought chloroquine phosphate was a malaria drug only available with a prescription; who knew that it's sold in every salt water aquarium store in the country? Apparently it's a wonder drug used to treat all sorts of salt water parasites and diseases. Fortunately, found some on my shelf, as it looks like there's been a run on the stuff.
https://aquariumstoredepot.com/products/chloroquine-phosphate
Just to be clear, people are responsible for their own actions. Even the reviled CNN doesn't say it was Trump's fault. It rightly states that B (Nigerians died after taking Chloroquine) happened after A (Trumpp touted its benefits). You can decide for yourself whether there was a causal relationship between them, and even if there was a causal link, how to apportion blame.
But it is also irresponsible for anyone, let alone the president, to use a press conference to tout an unproven cures. People are scared. And clearly people listen to the President. I think it's clear that not everyone takes him "seriously but not literally".
BC
Not just Trump...WTF Mario Cuomo?
https://www.foxnews.com/science/new-york-state-will-start-coronavirus-drug-trials
Quote:“Some health officials point to Africa, which has a very low infection rate,” he added. “There is a theory that because they are taking this antimalarial drug in Africa, it may actually be one of the reasons why the infection rate is low in Africa. We don’t know, but let’s find out and let’s find out quickly.”
FWIW, malaria is chloroquine resistant in Africa.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
Quote:Resistance to antimalarial medicines is a recurring problem. Resistance of P. falciparum malaria parasites to previous generations of medicines, such as chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine (SP), became widespread in the 1950s and 1960s, undermining malaria control efforts and reversing gains in child survival.
BC
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - cardcrimson - 03-23-2020
Forget about Cuomo and Trump. Blame the French--they started touting it over a week before Trump and Cuomo did. . ..
(03-23-2020, 03:16 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(03-23-2020, 02:40 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(03-23-2020, 02:15 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.axios.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-death-09c91a91-4fe7-472c-9de9-79b890aa8fff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
When Trump tweeted about the cure being worse than the disease, maybe he should have been thinking of this.
BC
Yup, clearly Trump's fault for this death and the ones in Nigeria that CNN was blaming him for.
Interesting read you linked--great info from Axios! Thought chloroquine phosphate was a malaria drug only available with a prescription; who knew that it's sold in every salt water aquarium store in the country? Apparently it's a wonder drug used to treat all sorts of salt water parasites and diseases. Fortunately, found some on my shelf, as it looks like there's been a run on the stuff.
https://aquariumstoredepot.com/products/chloroquine-phosphate
Just to be clear, people are responsible for their own actions. Even the reviled CNN doesn't say it was Trump's fault. It rightly states that B (Nigerians died after taking Chloroquine) happened after A (Trumpp touted its benefits). You can decide for yourself whether there was a causal relationship between them, and even if there was a causal link, how to apportion blame.
But it is also irresponsible for anyone, let alone the president, to use a press conference to tout an unproven cures. People are scared. And clearly people listen to the President. I think it's clear that not everyone takes him "seriously but not literally".
BC
Not just Trump...WTF Mario Cuomo?
https://www.foxnews.com/science/new-york-state-will-start-coronavirus-drug-trials
Quote:“Some health officials point to Africa, which has a very low infection rate,” he added. “There is a theory that because they are taking this antimalarial drug in Africa, it may actually be one of the reasons why the infection rate is low in Africa. We don’t know, but let’s find out and let’s find out quickly.”
FWIW, malaria is chloroquine resistant in Africa.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
Quote:Resistance to antimalarial medicines is a recurring problem. Resistance of P. falciparum malaria parasites to previous generations of medicines, such as chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine (SP), became widespread in the 1950s and 1960s, undermining malaria control efforts and reversing gains in child survival.
BC
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - JustAnotherFan - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 03:49 PM)cardcrimson Wrote: Forget about Cuomo and Trump. Blame the French--they started touting it over a week before Trump and Cuomo did. . ..
(03-23-2020, 03:16 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(03-23-2020, 02:40 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(03-23-2020, 02:15 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://www.axios.com/chloroquine-coronavirus-death-09c91a91-4fe7-472c-9de9-79b890aa8fff.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100
When Trump tweeted about the cure being worse than the disease, maybe he should have been thinking of this.
BC
Yup, clearly Trump's fault for this death and the ones in Nigeria that CNN was blaming him for.
Interesting read you linked--great info from Axios! Thought chloroquine phosphate was a malaria drug only available with a prescription; who knew that it's sold in every salt water aquarium store in the country? Apparently it's a wonder drug used to treat all sorts of salt water parasites and diseases. Fortunately, found some on my shelf, as it looks like there's been a run on the stuff.
https://aquariumstoredepot.com/products/chloroquine-phosphate
Just to be clear, people are responsible for their own actions. Even the reviled CNN doesn't say it was Trump's fault. It rightly states that B (Nigerians died after taking Chloroquine) happened after A (Trumpp touted its benefits). You can decide for yourself whether there was a causal relationship between them, and even if there was a causal link, how to apportion blame.
But it is also irresponsible for anyone, let alone the president, to use a press conference to tout an unproven cures. People are scared. And clearly people listen to the President. I think it's clear that not everyone takes him "seriously but not literally".
BC
Not just Trump...WTF Mario Cuomo?
https://www.foxnews.com/science/new-york-state-will-start-coronavirus-drug-trials
Quote:“Some health officials point to Africa, which has a very low infection rate,” he added. “There is a theory that because they are taking this antimalarial drug in Africa, it may actually be one of the reasons why the infection rate is low in Africa. We don’t know, but let’s find out and let’s find out quickly.”
FWIW, malaria is chloroquine resistant in Africa.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/malaria
Quote:Resistance to antimalarial medicines is a recurring problem. Resistance of P. falciparum malaria parasites to previous generations of medicines, such as chloroquine and sulfadoxine-pyrimethamine (SP), became widespread in the 1950s and 1960s, undermining malaria control efforts and reversing gains in child survival.
BC
Don't blame anyone! But if you do, blame foreigners!
I like that approach.
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - magnus - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 03:16 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Not just Trump...WTF Mario Cuomo?
Don't blame Mario for siring Andrew!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - cardcrimson - 03-23-2020
A few notes:
Sarcasm blaming the French (or anyone at all). . . .
2 grams of chloroquine is lethal, yes. 60-200 milligrams of morphine is lethal. 30 milligrams of heroin. 3 milligrams of fentanyl.
Mario Cuomo is, well, dead.
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - OutsiderFan - 03-23-2020
I saw Dr. David Ho say this chlorine drug is not an answer and that was good enough for me.
We live in an ocean of stupid with islands of intellect, and the stupid is threatening to inundate the remaining islands.
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - cardcrimson - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 07:52 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: I saw Dr. David Ho say this chlorine drug is not an answer and that was good enough for me.
We live in an ocean of stupid with islands of intellect, and the stupid is threatening to inundate the remaining islands.
Well, that settles it then.
Are you really admitting that you live in an ocean of stupid. . . .
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - BostonCard - 03-23-2020
(03-23-2020, 07:52 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: I saw Dr. David Ho say this chlorine drug is not an answer and that was good enough for me.
We live in an ocean of stupid with islands of intellect, and the stupid is threatening to inundate the remaining islands.
Yes, please don’t ingest pool water!
BC
RE: Man dies after injesting chloroquine - JustAnotherFan - 03-24-2020
(03-23-2020, 08:31 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(03-23-2020, 07:52 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: I saw Dr. David Ho say this chlorine drug is not an answer and that was good enough for me.
We live in an ocean of stupid with islands of intellect, and the stupid is threatening to inundate the remaining islands.
Yes, please don’t ingest pool water!
BC
Another take. We can talk about Darwin awards but there is real harm happening to people who are not making bad decisions thanks to what has unfortunately been repeated time and again by people in power.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lifesaving-lupus-drug-short-supply-after-trump-touts-possible-coronavirus-n1166981