South Korea as a model? -
oregontim - 04-06-2020
As of April 6, South Korea, country of 50 million, has just over 10K cases and fewer than 200 deaths. I understand they jumped on it hard immediately, tested many people very fast, and never had to shut down. Their strategy has been called 'test and separate.' They had early cases just about same as US, with vastly better results.
- Is this useful to us now? Can we learn something from it?
- Should we be following this lead in secondary cities that still have low numbers?
- Is it even feasible? Would we even have the option, since it took major testing, and it's not clear that in this country we have enough testing capacity, even today, still, after months of this.
Some background:
NY Times on South Korea 3/23/20
ps: I'm new to this board, apologize if this is already a dead horse.
RE: South Korea as a model? -
magnus - 04-06-2020
(04-06-2020, 02:53 PM)oregontim Wrote: - Is it even feasible? Would we even have the option, since it took major testing, and it's not clear that in this country we have enough testing capacity, even today, still, after months of this.
I think that's what concerns many of us. That we might not have the capacity to do major testing.
(04-06-2020, 02:53 PM)oregontim Wrote: ps: I'm new to this board, apologize if this is already a dead horse.
Welcome!
RE: South Korea as a model? -
M T - 04-06-2020
(04-06-2020, 02:53 PM)oregontim Wrote: As of April 6, South Korea, country of 50 million, has just over 10K cases and fewer than 200 deaths.
ps: I'm new to this board, apologize if this is already a dead horse.
There is a lot that has been discussed on this board (and, I'm sad to say, the state of the discussions has been deteriorating), so it is not unexpected that a new reader would not be able to scan everything.
In today's posts, you'll see stuff about South Korea's reactions & suggestions about how/why they reacted as they did.
As a comparison (current):
S. Korea. pop:51.7M Population > 65yo: 9.1% = 4.7M 10,284 cases 184 deaths 466K tests Last 7 days new cases: 623
Calif. pop: 39.5M Population > 65yo: 14% = 5.5M 14,336 cases 343 deaths 144K tests Last 7 days new cases: 7675
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RE: South Korea as a model? -
BostonCard - 04-06-2020
Just to give you an idea of South Korea did, read this NEJM article:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001801?query=RP
Quote:Most of the early local infections were transmitted from patients who were being actively monitored because of recent travel (Patients 3, 5, and 6). Patient 3, who had subclinical symptoms, transmitted SARS-CoV-2 infection to Patient 6, who in turn transmitted it to Patients 10, 11, and 21. During his stay in Japan, Patient 12 had been exposed to a person with confirmed Covid-19. However, he was not screened in the quarantine area at Gimpo International Airport in Seoul, South Korea, because South Korean officials had not been informed about the contact. Patient 12 appears to have subsequently infected Patient 14.
In contrast, by the time cases were detected in the US, there was already community spread and it was only detected because patients in a nursing home in Washington were dying and due to the persistent of doctors who were treating a hospitalized patient outside Sacramento who were told multiple times that the patient didn't qualify for testing.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article240674471.html
BC
RE: South Korea as a model? -
oregontim - 04-06-2020
Thanks :)
(04-06-2020, 03:47 PM)M T Wrote: (04-06-2020, 02:53 PM)oregontim Wrote: As of April 6, South Korea, country of 50 million, has just over 10K cases and fewer than 200 deaths.
ps: I'm new to this board, apologize if this is already a dead horse.
There is a lot that has been discussed on this board (and, I'm sad to say, the state of the discussions has been deteriorating), so it is not unexpected that a new reader would not be able to scan everything.
In today's posts, you'll see stuff about South Korea's reactions & suggestions about how/why they reacted as they did.
As a comparison (current):
S. Korea. pop:51.7M Population > 65yo: 9.1% = 4.7M 10,284 cases 184 deaths 466K tests Last 7 days new cases: 623
Calif. pop: 39.5M Population > 65yo: 14% = 5.5M 14,336 cases 343 deaths 144K tests Last 7 days new cases: 7675
Welcome to the CARDboard.
RE: South Korea as a model? -
M T - 04-07-2020
Some other info that may useful to any other newcomers....
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