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Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - Mick - 04-20-2020
You can all rest easy. The avalanche of job losses will be blamed on Trump, and he'll be voted out. President Joe Biden is assured in just 6.5 short months:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democrats-are-liking-their-chances-against-trump-as-swing-state-job-losses-mount
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - JustAnotherFan - 04-20-2020
(04-20-2020, 06:43 AM)Mick Wrote: You can all rest easy. The avalanche of job losses will be blamed on Trump, and he'll be voted out. President Joe Biden is assured in just 6.5 short months:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democrats-are-liking-their-chances-against-trump-as-swing-state-job-losses-mount
I disagree. After the shedding of ungodly amounts of jobs the economy will start to rebuild in September. Trump will point to "job growth" in the month prior to election day and not only will his loyal 40% come out in droves to vote for him but a bunch of really scared people will also want to stick with what they think is working (even if it is only the dead body bouncing off the concrete) and he'll come out ahead of Biden who won't even be able to get Democrats to vote for him.
The only chance Trump has of losing is if tens of thousands of his supporters in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Minnesota all catch COVID-19 and die from their freedom rallies.
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - Farm93 - 04-20-2020
(04-20-2020, 06:43 AM)Mick Wrote: You can all rest easy. The avalanche of job losses will be blamed on Trump, and he'll be voted out. President Joe Biden is assured in just 6.5 short months:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democrats-are-liking-their-chances-against-trump-as-swing-state-job-losses-mount
POTUS45 I believe has a ready made excuse for all negative information - POTUS44
When anything bad happens it is always POTUS44's fault.
President Trump's approval rating in late April is essentially where it has been throughout his entire term, so I don't think COVID19 will be the deciding factor in this election.
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - Genuine Realist - 04-20-2020
(04-20-2020, 07:19 AM)Farm93 Wrote:I'm nearly always wrong, but:(04-20-2020, 06:43 AM)Mick Wrote: You can all rest easy. The avalanche of job losses will be blamed on Trump, and he'll be voted out. President Joe Biden is assured in just 6.5 short months:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democrats-are-liking-their-chances-against-trump-as-swing-state-job-losses-mount
POTUS45 I believe has a ready made excuse for all negative information - POTUS44
When anything bad happens it is always POTUS44's fault.
President Trump's approval rating in late April is essentially where it has been throughout his entire term, so I don't think COVID19 will be the deciding factor in this election.
1. I think Trump loses on his incredibly obnoxious personality. Biden was running on the decency ticket, and has my vote for that reason. HOWEVER . . .
2. I don't think the public is going Left after all this. If the experience of WWI and WWII is any guide, there is going to be a stampede back to normalcy, though normalcy will be revised. That likely helps the GOP because of all the Leftish discussion during the debates. Also, the obstruction of necessary basic relief will not be forgotten.
3. if the job loss related to some policy decisions of the Administration, it would be fatal. But it doesn't. It's a response to a national emergency, almost akin to an invasion from outer space - that strange and unprecedented. More than that, political correctness - incredibly - is beginning to harden around Blue support for a lockdown of indefinite duration, Red more immediate reopening. These should be nuanced decisions, but the media is no longer capable of that (if it ever was). The public trusts the GOP more with the economy, and it's possible the Democrats will end up on the side of endless lockdown. That's obviously very good for Trump.
4. The Democrats are wasting their time trying to pin responsibility for this on Trump. They have their own baggage. I've posted a couple of lines on this. But they will waste their time that way. That's also helpful to Trump.
5. I believe that UBI will be on the table. That sounds Democratic, but actually touches values of both parties. I also think we will begin discussing taxing wealth more effectively than we do now. As a surtax to the income tax, it's a disaster. As a replacement for the income tax, it's an idea the time of which should have come a decade ago. (The link is to a blog I conduct on the subject.)
But I don't think any of the substantive factors matter that much. I believe Trump will lose because he's a narcissistic boor, and the public is thoroughly sick of him.
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - needle - 04-20-2020
(04-20-2020, 08:53 AM)Genuine Realist Wrote:(04-20-2020, 07:19 AM)Farm93 Wrote:I'm nearly always wrong, but:(04-20-2020, 06:43 AM)Mick Wrote: You can all rest easy. The avalanche of job losses will be blamed on Trump, and he'll be voted out. President Joe Biden is assured in just 6.5 short months:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/democrats-are-liking-their-chances-against-trump-as-swing-state-job-losses-mount
POTUS45 I believe has a ready made excuse for all negative information - POTUS44
When anything bad happens it is always POTUS44's fault.
President Trump's approval rating in late April is essentially where it has been throughout his entire term, so I don't think COVID19 will be the deciding factor in this election.
1. I think Trump loses on his incredibly obnoxious personality. Biden was running on the decency ticket, and has my vote for that reason. HOWEVER . . .
2. I don't think the public is going Left after all this. If the experience of WWI and WWII is any guide, there is going to be a stampede back to normalcy, though normalcy will be revised. That likely helps the GOP because of all the Leftish discussion during the debates. Also, the obstruction of necessary basic relief will not be forgotten.
3. if the job loss related to some policy decisions of the Administration, it would be fatal. But it doesn't. It's a response to a national emergency, almost akin to an invasion from outer space - that strange and unprecedented. More than that, political correctness - incredibly - is beginning to harden around Blue support for a lockdown of indefinite duration, Red more immediate reopening. These should be nuanced decisions, but the media is no longer capable of that (if it ever was). The public trusts the GOP more with the economy, and it's possible the Democrats will end up on the side of endless lockdown. That's obviously very good for Trump.
4. The Democrats are wasting their time trying to pin responsibility for this on Trump. They have their own baggage. I've posted a couple of lines on this. But they will waste their time that way. That's also helpful to Trump.
5. I believe that UBI will be on the table. That sounds Democratic, but actually touches values of both parties. I also think we will begin discussing taxing wealth more effectively than we do now. As a surtax to the income tax, it's a disaster. As a replacement for the income tax, it's an idea the time of which should have come a decade ago. (The link is to a blog I conduct on the subject.)
But I don't think any of the substantive factors matter that much. I believe Trump will lose because he's a narcissistic boor, and the public is thoroughly sick of him.
One vote to delete this thread, thank you.
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - OutsiderFan - 04-20-2020
Another vote to delete.
RE: Thanks to mounting job losses, Trump will be out - 2006alum - 04-20-2020
Closed per what I'm calling the Terry Rule, which I've now posted in a sticky thread at the top of this forum. It should go without saying that we're comfortable with politics invading COVID-19 discussions, but it should remain primarily (and at least partially) a COVID-19 discussion. Lots of us, including mods, have danced near and sometimes across that line, so it's helpful for all of us to remind each other when a thread is going off the rails. Thanks.