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Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Crafter Artisan - 08-05-2020

https://www.wsj.com/articles/dartmouth-is-the-blueprint-for-nfl-success-in-2020-yes-dartmouth-11596628811?st=co20ldc3xbnyeoh&reflink=article_email_share

Having suffered through the entirety of the Buddy regime while on campus, and even aware of his winning at Dartmouth, I've got to say that the first three paragraphs made my head spin.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Mick - 08-06-2020

(08-05-2020, 10:58 PM)Crafter Artisan Wrote:  https://www.wsj.com/articles/dartmouth-is-the-blueprint-for-nfl-success-in-2020-yes-dartmouth-11596628811?st=co20ldc3xbnyeoh&reflink=article_email_share

Having suffered through the entirety of the Buddy regime while on campus, and even aware of his winning at Dartmouth, I've got to say that the first three paragraphs made my head spin.

Interesting article. But Buddy had a lot of success when he instituted the new policy.  70-30 after 9-41 isn't too bad.  And in the last three years, he's gone 8-2, 9-1 and 9-1.  He's doing something right.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - BostonCard - 08-06-2020

Buddy found the right coaching fit for himself, and I am happy for him.  He may have been an ineffective coach for Stanford, but he was not a bad guy.

BC

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - SamuelMcF - 08-06-2020

(08-06-2020, 08:36 AM)Mick Wrote:  Interesting article. But Buddy had a lot of success when he instituted the new policy.  70-30 after 9-41 isn't too bad.  And in the last three years, he's gone 8-2, 9-1 and 9-1.  He's doing something right.

His most recent signing class (of 39!!!) signed 3 QBs.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - gailtate - 08-06-2020

(08-06-2020, 08:38 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  Buddy found the right coaching fit for himself, and I am happy for him.  He may have been an ineffective coach for Stanford, but he was not a bad guy.

BC

Never "a bad guy". Just a godawful fit.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - BostonCard - 08-06-2020

And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - French Rage - 08-06-2020

(08-06-2020, 10:53 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

Yeah as someone who arrived for grad school in 2004 and only experiencing one year of him, I don't recall much other than them not being good teams.  Now Harris, that guy fills me with anger.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Mick - 08-07-2020

(08-06-2020, 04:54 PM)French Rage Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 10:53 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

Yeah as someone who arrived for grad school in 2004 and only experiencing one year of him, I don't recall much other than them not being good teams.  Now Harris, that guy fills me with anger.

I met Harris once.  It was a singularly unpleasant experience. IMHO, his hire shows the limits of linear thinking. He was Ty Willingham-successful at a midlevel football school, so obviously he'd have the same result at Stanford. Uh, no.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - BobK - 08-07-2020

I met Mrs Harris once. Much younger very good looking

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Embo - 08-07-2020

(08-07-2020, 08:15 AM)BobK Wrote:  I met Mrs Harris once.  Much younger very good looking

Maybe I should be ashamed that I still remember this, but in 2005 after he was hired, someone had posted that the wife looked like Teri Hatcher.  True?

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - BobK - 08-07-2020

Mostly very true. I'll side with my Fremont HS fellow Grad Ms Hatcher.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - terry - 08-07-2020

I believe she was his "fiancee," not his wife. I think her name was Barbara, IIRC.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - BobK - 08-07-2020

Walt was recently divorced when he came. So fiancé probably right at the time.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Embo - 08-07-2020

(08-07-2020, 10:51 AM)terry Wrote:  I believe she was his "fiancee," not his wife. I think her name was Barbara, IIRC.

The knowledge on this board never fails to astound me.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - French Rage - 08-07-2020

(08-07-2020, 07:36 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 04:54 PM)French Rage Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 10:53 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

Yeah as someone who arrived for grad school in 2004 and only experiencing one year of him, I don't recall much other than them not being good teams.  Now Harris, that guy fills me with anger.

I met Harris once.  It was a singularly unpleasant experience.  IMHO, his hire shows the limits of linear thinking.  He was Ty Willingham-successful at a midlevel football school, so obviously he'd have the same result at Stanford.  Uh, no.

But the important thing was, he kept guns out of the locker room!

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - JohnR34231 - 08-08-2020

(08-07-2020, 07:36 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 04:54 PM)French Rage Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 10:53 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

Yeah as someone who arrived for grad school in 2004 and only experiencing one year of him, I don't recall much other than them not being good teams.  Now Harris, that guy fills me with anger.

I met Harris once.  It was a singularly unpleasant experience.  IMHO, his hire shows the limits of linear thinking.  He was Ty Willingham-successful at a midlevel football school, so obviously he'd have the same result at Stanford.  Uh, no.

Actually I thought it was a decent hire. Here was a guy who had taken a program that was in the doldrums and led them to a New Years Six Bowl Game. So while it wasn't obvious that he would have the same result at Stanford, at least he had a track record. Also, we were still bound by the Ted Leland "do it on the cheap" philosophy of hiring head coaches, so we were somewhat limited in our choices. Of course it didn't work out, but I don't think that was particularly predictable.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - Mick - 08-08-2020

(08-07-2020, 03:21 PM)French Rage Wrote:  
(08-07-2020, 07:36 AM)Mick Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 04:54 PM)French Rage Wrote:  
(08-06-2020, 10:53 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  And the next guy was an even worse fit.

BC

Yeah as someone who arrived for grad school in 2004 and only experiencing one year of him, I don't recall much other than them not being good teams.  Now Harris, that guy fills me with anger.

I met Harris once.  It was a singularly unpleasant experience.  IMHO, his hire shows the limits of linear thinking.  He was Ty Willingham-successful at a midlevel football school, so obviously he'd have the same result at Stanford.  Uh, no.

But the important thing was, he kept guns out of the locker room!

Sounds like he had a pretty clear read on the average Stanford football player.

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - terry - 08-08-2020

I once heard that Walt Harris' "no guns in the locker room" speech was prompted by a player bringing a gun into the locker room. I heard a specific player's name. Does anyone know anything about that?

RE: Our former "Buddy" to be possible football savior? - French Rage - 08-09-2020

(08-08-2020, 12:01 PM)terry Wrote:  I once heard that Walt Harris' "no guns in the locker room" speech was prompted by a player bringing a gun into the locker room. I heard a specific player's name. Does anyone know anything about that?

I heard from another player it was a sign to the players he would not exactly work out well.