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WBB National Champions? - Spike - 12-04-2020
We might just be the National Champions in 2021 with a 1-0 record.
RE: WBB National Champions? - Softball Fan - 12-04-2020
But there are two games scheduled before the next poll comes out on Monday. We have to win both those games to be ranked #1.
RE: WBB National Champions? - adawem - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 03:54 PM)paloalto Wrote: But there are two games scheduled before the next poll comes out on Monday. We have to win both those games to be ranked #1.
Should be #1 next poll. South Carolina lost to NC State.
RE: WBB National Champions? - BostonCard - 12-04-2020
(12-04-2020, 06:22 PM)adawem Wrote:(12-04-2020, 03:54 PM)paloalto Wrote: But there are two games scheduled before the next poll comes out on Monday. We have to win both those games to be ranked #1.
Should be #1 next poll. South Carolina lost to NC State.
We still have to beat UNLV and Washington.
BC
RE: WBB National Champions? - magnus - 12-06-2020
(12-04-2020, 07:05 PM)BostonCard Wrote:Done and done.(12-04-2020, 06:22 PM)adawem Wrote:(12-04-2020, 03:54 PM)paloalto Wrote: But there are two games scheduled before the next poll comes out on Monday. We have to win both those games to be ranked #1.
Should be #1 next poll. South Carolina lost to NC State.
We still have to beat UNLV and Washington.
BC
That's a wrap.
(do we have any more games scheduled that we likely can play?)
RE: WBB National Champions? - teejers1 - 12-06-2020
(12-06-2020, 09:40 PM)magnus Wrote:(12-04-2020, 07:05 PM)BostonCard Wrote:Done and done.(12-04-2020, 06:22 PM)adawem Wrote:(12-04-2020, 03:54 PM)paloalto Wrote: But there are two games scheduled before the next poll comes out on Monday. We have to win both those games to be ranked #1.
Should be #1 next poll. South Carolina lost to NC State.
We still have to beat UNLV and Washington.
BC
That's a wrap.
(do we have any more games scheduled that we likely can play?)
The short answer is "not yet." Tara's post-game presser was very good, as usual. Coach is very cognizant of health concerns in society at large, what is important in the grand scheme of things, etc. She even specifically mentioned wanting to comply with SCC regulations. But what stood out to me in Tara's presser was the simple, yet pretty powerful comment: "We just want to play games." I think as we all pontificate on what society should and shouldn't do, we lose sight of the real benefit of competition to the players - and to be perfectly frank, the fans. I have loved watching every minute of Stanford college hoops this season, even in blowout Ws (the women) and losses (men have had a couple). It provides real - even if intangible - benefits. Ditto the football team.
Was hoping Davis might follow UW's lead and take a roadie to UNLV to play Stanford, but per Bob, that is unlikely to happen. I'm sure Tara & Co. are burning up the phone lines trying to schedule games. (New Mexico? UTSA? Anyone?). It was interesting to see Tara pitch Sin City "Come to Vegas everyone. It's great and safe." (Paraphrasing, though Tara noted that the town is not crowded at all).
I sure hope one or two more teams can make their way to UNLV for a game against the #1 team in the nation. Really, there is no downside to those teams from the competition (other than cost to get there) - and plenty of competitive upside.
We'll see . . .
RE: WBB National Champions? - TheFarm07 - 12-06-2020
At this point, given the COVID situation, I am happy to have games and face any opponents, but is there a chance we might able to entice a Top-25 team to play? Is that not as likely as getting a smaller program to Vegas?
Gonzaga perhaps? They faced South Carolina in their first game and only lost by 7. I am not sure how competitive the WCC is this year, but they might want another game against a top tier opponent.
RE: WBB National Champions? - BostonCard - 12-07-2020
It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
RE: WBB National Champions? - Softball Fan - 12-07-2020
Bostoncard, I think everyone understands this now.
I hope Stanford can line up at least one more non-conference opponent. I trust they will do it in a safe way and comply with the Covid rules.
RE: WBB National Champions? - petersalas - 12-07-2020
Stanford just claimed the number one ranking.. let’s enjoy the moment.. I sure hope they can keep that number one ranking all season and throughout the NCAA tournament with a championship at the end!!!
RE: WBB National Champions? - teejers1 - 12-07-2020
(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
RE: WBB National Champions? - Goose - 12-07-2020
(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."Absolutely states the obvious facts. I would give BC a +1 but it would be redundant.
BC
Baez87 - Baez87 - 12-07-2020
Fortunes rise and fall, a few random thoughts about the National Ranking:
Let’s hope that we get to play enough games this season for Haley's teammates to show just how good they are...Oregon is on the rise and will probably be our greatest obstacle in the PAC-12 again...Geno gets to rest on his laurels (and a team of top picks) to stay in the top four without playing a game...Louisville's shellacking of DePaul got plenty of attention from college coaches over the weekend...Arizona may have hit its pinnacle for the season...UCLA's lackluster performance against less-than-impressive AU dropped them out of the Top Ten...Dijonai's respectable twenty-four point production wasn’t enough to help her new team beat Mike Neighbors' upset minded Razorbacks...the Darling of the Desert has lost her stature with new cross-state rival and has to figure a way to climb back into the standings...Muffet's ND strategy to play four seniors to a national title before retiring seems to have cost the team a place among the best...we are on top, now let’s stay there!
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/associated-press
RE: WBB National Champions? - BostonCard - 12-07-2020
(12-07-2020, 11:53 AM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
All of the scenarios I quoted involved some compelling reason why they should be allowed to happen. Religious ceremonies are protected by the first amendment; protests are likewise constitutionally protected (and can be taken place outside). Seeing one's grandparents can probably be done outdoors > 6 feet apart while wearing masks. Businesses have spent a lot of time and effort at developing COVID-19 protocols, reconfiguring their stores or restaurants or places of work to minimize contact, enable social distancing, etc. It all can be done safer or is important for one reason or another. But as a result of all the special pleading for why activity x should be allowed, we have a pandemic that has left us with 1 in 9 hospital beds in the country filled with a patient with COVID-19, a number that will have to stabilize and start coming down in order not to overwhelm hospitals. So we just have to start saying "no" to ourselves and stop trying to convince ourselves that whatever activity we want or think we need to do and think we can do "safely" maybe shouldn't be done. Of course, it is hard to think we are going to have an effect if we see others not doing their part, and one can hardly blame Stanford women's basketball from just wanting to play, when no other team is voluntarily not playing.
BC
RE: WBB National Champions? - Softball Fan - 12-07-2020
Today's AP Poll:
https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-women/d1/associated-press
1 Stanford (24) 3-0 740 2
2 Louisville (2) 4-0 689 5
3 Connecticut (2) 0-0 675 3
4 North Carolina State (2) 4-0 670 8
5 South Carolina 4-1 647 1
6 Arizona 3-0 605 7
7 Baylor 2-1 552 4
8 Oregon 4-0 525 10
9 Kentucky 4-0 504 11
10 Texas A&M 4-0 463 12
11 UCLA 2-1 452 9
RE: WBB National Champions? - magnus - 12-07-2020
ESPN WBB has some good things to say about Stanford, Pac12, and Haley.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/30467455/women-college-basketball-why-pac-12-best-conference
RE: WBB National Champions? - teejers1 - 12-07-2020
(12-07-2020, 12:48 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-07-2020, 11:53 AM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
All of the scenarios I quoted involved some compelling reason why they should be allowed to happen. Religious ceremonies are protected by the first amendment; protests are likewise constitutionally protected (and can be taken place outside). Seeing one's grandparents can probably be done outdoors > 6 feet apart while wearing masks. Businesses have spent a lot of time and effort at developing COVID-19 protocols, reconfiguring their stores or restaurants or places of work to minimize contact, enable social distancing, etc. It all can be done safer or is important for one reason or another. But as a result of all the special pleading for why activity x should be allowed, we have a pandemic that has left us with 1 in 9 hospital beds in the country filled with a patient with COVID-19, a number that will have to stabilize and start coming down in order not to overwhelm hospitals. So we just have to start saying "no" to ourselves and stop trying to convince ourselves that whatever activity we want or think we need to do and think we can do "safely" maybe shouldn't be done. Of course, it is hard to think we are going to have an effect if we see others not doing their part, and one can hardly blame Stanford women's basketball from just wanting to play, when no other team is voluntarily not playing.
BC
Look, fundamentally I agree with your general point.
But SCC is the only county I'm aware of precluding college (and pro) sports from competing. So, there's "Let's all sacrifice" and then there's "Let's sacrifice alone while watching other similarly situated athletes compete and engage in activities that the state of CA - and other county powers-that-be - think is reasonably safe to do."
And even SCC's Health Officer relented to the CA standard for retail businesses - it is only sports teams that are getting her "special treatement."
Thus, I still think the Stanford sports teams are asking to sacrifice more than you or I when it comes to regulated conduct during the pandemic.
RE: WBB National Champions? - WBB fan - 12-07-2020
(12-07-2020, 12:48 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-07-2020, 11:53 AM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
All of the scenarios I quoted involved some compelling reason why they should be allowed to happen. Religious ceremonies are protected by the first amendment; protests are likewise constitutionally protected (and can be taken place outside). Seeing one's grandparents can probably be done outdoors > 6 feet apart while wearing masks. Businesses have spent a lot of time and effort at developing COVID-19 protocols, reconfiguring their stores or restaurants or places of work to minimize contact, enable social distancing, etc. It all can be done safer or is important for one reason or another. But as a result of all the special pleading for why activity x should be allowed, we have a pandemic that has left us with 1 in 9 hospital beds in the country filled with a patient with COVID-19, a number that will have to stabilize and start coming down in order not to overwhelm hospitals. So we just have to start saying "no" to ourselves and stop trying to convince ourselves that whatever activity we want or think we need to do and think we can do "safely" maybe shouldn't be done. Of course, it is hard to think we are going to have an effect if we see others not doing their part, and one can hardly blame Stanford women's basketball from just wanting to play, when no other team is voluntarily not playing.
BC
Very well put. Thank you for this. As for us, we just canceled plans to celebrate our son's 50th birthday with him and his wife, daughter in person. We are quite confident that they are all safe, but the daughter is going to school in person at times, and the son and wife go to stores, etc. We feel that we're fine, but every now and then we go to the grocery store. We just don't know, and there are so many ways to catch this virus. We decided that we should totally follow the new shelter in place rules, so we'll celebrate virtually -- with sadness, but glad to be able to do it totally safely and still be together in a way. As for basketball, I worry about the players. Yes, they want to play, and I really enjoy seeing them play, but should they be doing it? If they can be totally sure they are safe, but ??? I see too many people on the tv screen with masks down around their throats, or hanging from one ear. It doesn't look to me as if all those around the players are taking things adequately seriously. So . . . "we just want to . . ." I understand. But I want to see them next year as well, safe and healthy. It's so very difficult to know what's the right thing to do.
RE: WBB National Champions? - petersalas - 12-07-2020
I also agree 100% with the previous post.. I just don’t agree with the statement about players on the bench with masks down.. I mean, I see it the same as not wearing a mask when I’m at home around my family.. in my case I have to come to work and I’m probably more at risk in being exposed or exposing family members because I’m not being tested and neither are other employees.. I would feel so much safer around my teammates than co-workers because they are tested frequently and have to follow strict protocols in order to continue practicing and playing.. and opposing teams are also doing the same.. I think that environment is so much safer than many other environments.
(12-07-2020, 03:26 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(12-07-2020, 12:48 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-07-2020, 11:53 AM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
All of the scenarios I quoted involved some compelling reason why they should be allowed to happen. Religious ceremonies are protected by the first amendment; protests are likewise constitutionally protected (and can be taken place outside). Seeing one's grandparents can probably be done outdoors > 6 feet apart while wearing masks. Businesses have spent a lot of time and effort at developing COVID-19 protocols, reconfiguring their stores or restaurants or places of work to minimize contact, enable social distancing, etc. It all can be done safer or is important for one reason or another. But as a result of all the special pleading for why activity x should be allowed, we have a pandemic that has left us with 1 in 9 hospital beds in the country filled with a patient with COVID-19, a number that will have to stabilize and start coming down in order not to overwhelm hospitals. So we just have to start saying "no" to ourselves and stop trying to convince ourselves that whatever activity we want or think we need to do and think we can do "safely" maybe shouldn't be done. Of course, it is hard to think we are going to have an effect if we see others not doing their part, and one can hardly blame Stanford women's basketball from just wanting to play, when no other team is voluntarily not playing.
BC
Very well put. Thank you for this. As for us, we just canceled plans to celebrate our son's 50th birthday with him and his wife, daughter in person. We are quite confident that they are all safe, but the daughter is going to school in person at times, and the son and wife go to stores, etc. We feel that we're fine, but every now and then we go to the grocery store. We just don't know, and there are so many ways to catch this virus. We decided that we should totally follow the new shelter in place rules, so we'll celebrate virtually -- with sadness, but glad to be able to do it totally safely and still be together in a way. As for basketball, I worry about the players. Yes, they want to play, and I really enjoy seeing them play, but should they be doing it? If they can be totally sure they are safe, but ??? I see too many people on the tv screen with masks down around their throats, or hanging from one ear. It doesn't look to me as if all those around the players are taking things adequately seriously. So . . . "we just want to . . ." I understand. But I want to see them next year as well, safe and healthy. It's so very difficult to know what's the right thing to do.
RE: WBB National Champions? - WBB fan - 12-07-2020
To clarify, sorry I wasn't clear -- re the masks down -- it's not the players I was commenting on. It was the media people, other misc. folk in the background, etc. The games that Stanford was in, not nearly as much of this as I've seen in other games, especially those being played in the south. To my eyes watching the games, my sense is that the Pac 12 and western teams are being intent on as much safety as possible given the circumstances, doesn't seem to be quite as much of this in other parts of the country. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope so.
(12-07-2020, 03:53 PM)petersalas Wrote: I also agree 100% with the previous post.. I just don’t agree with the statement about players on the bench with masks down.. I mean, I see it the same as not wearing a mask when I’m at home around my family.. in my case I have to come to work and I’m probably more at risk in being exposed or exposing family members because I’m not being tested and neither are other employees.. I would feel so much safer around my teammates than co-workers because they are tested frequently and have to follow strict protocols in order to continue practicing and playing.. and opposing teams are also doing the same.. I think that environment is so much safer than many other environments.
(12-07-2020, 03:26 PM)WBB fan Wrote:(12-07-2020, 12:48 PM)BostonCard Wrote:(12-07-2020, 11:53 AM)teejers1 Wrote:(12-07-2020, 09:49 AM)BostonCard Wrote: It's poignant, but it is also potentially dangerous.
"We just want to see our grandparents"
"We just want to make payroll"
"We just want to have a Christmas celebration"
"We just want to celebrate mass"
"We just want to protest police brutality"
I could go on.
There are a lot of "We just want to ..." out there that are very poignant and very important. Many of them might be able to be performed safely or "probably" won't result in COVID transmissions. But cumulatively they have put us in the situation we are in right now. The only way we will get the pandemic under control without going into lock-down is if "We just want to..." is followed by "but it's important for us not to."
BC
But not all your scenarios are with people getting tested regularly (I know I've yet to get tested at all - same with family - no need to).
As for getting an opponent - a Gonzaga, or anyone really - I wouldn't be surprised if Stanford has to kick in some $$ to make that happen. I imagine lots of ADs out there are incredibly cash strapped.
All of the scenarios I quoted involved some compelling reason why they should be allowed to happen. Religious ceremonies are protected by the first amendment; protests are likewise constitutionally protected (and can be taken place outside). Seeing one's grandparents can probably be done outdoors > 6 feet apart while wearing masks. Businesses have spent a lot of time and effort at developing COVID-19 protocols, reconfiguring their stores or restaurants or places of work to minimize contact, enable social distancing, etc. It all can be done safer or is important for one reason or another. But as a result of all the special pleading for why activity x should be allowed, we have a pandemic that has left us with 1 in 9 hospital beds in the country filled with a patient with COVID-19, a number that will have to stabilize and start coming down in order not to overwhelm hospitals. So we just have to start saying "no" to ourselves and stop trying to convince ourselves that whatever activity we want or think we need to do and think we can do "safely" maybe shouldn't be done. Of course, it is hard to think we are going to have an effect if we see others not doing their part, and one can hardly blame Stanford women's basketball from just wanting to play, when no other team is voluntarily not playing.
BC
Very well put. Thank you for this. As for us, we just canceled plans to celebrate our son's 50th birthday with him and his wife, daughter in person. We are quite confident that they are all safe, but the daughter is going to school in person at times, and the son and wife go to stores, etc. We feel that we're fine, but every now and then we go to the grocery store. We just don't know, and there are so many ways to catch this virus. We decided that we should totally follow the new shelter in place rules, so we'll celebrate virtually -- with sadness, but glad to be able to do it totally safely and still be together in a way. As for basketball, I worry about the players. Yes, they want to play, and I really enjoy seeing them play, but should they be doing it? If they can be totally sure they are safe, but ??? I see too many people on the tv screen with masks down around their throats, or hanging from one ear. It doesn't look to me as if all those around the players are taking things adequately seriously. So . . . "we just want to . . ." I understand. But I want to see them next year as well, safe and healthy. It's so very difficult to know what's the right thing to do.