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WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - M T - 03-26-2021
Stanford Live Stream will show both games of #2 Stanford vs #3 UCLA at Stanford this weekend.
Saturday 3PM
Sunday 1PM
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-26-2021
Are people interested in having WWP live streams recorded? Or any other sports that are live stream only? I don't know if folks would watch later or not. So far I've only done WBB and WVB, where I wanted to be able to watch later myself.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - martyup - 03-27-2021
(03-26-2021, 10:37 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: Are people interested in having WWP live streams recorded? Or any other sports that are live stream only? I don't know if folks would watch later or not. So far I've only done WBB and WVB, where I wanted to be able to watch later myself.
I would watch important matches, like the ones this weekend.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-27-2021
(03-27-2021, 07:54 AM)martyup Wrote:(03-26-2021, 10:37 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: Are people interested in having WWP live streams recorded? Or any other sports that are live stream only? I don't know if folks would watch later or not. So far I've only done WBB and WVB, where I wanted to be able to watch later myself.
I would watch important matches, like the ones this weekend.
Cool. Then let's say I'll record Pac-12 free livestreams by request, time permitting, starting with these two. It doesn't take much time now that I have the software working, but does take some. Also I don't want to do so many that the Pac-12 notices in an unfavorable way and asks me to stop.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - Lorcan - 03-27-2021
Thanks CompSci!
I always appreciate being able to watch WBB -- especially since I might not make every game.
I should try the Water Polo sometime. I tend to stick to the sports I played growing up as I watch the Women's Tennis, Volleyball, and Basketball teams pretty religiously.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - M T - 03-27-2021
CompSci, I would love to get a recording of the WWP games. Are you able to set up recording by time, or do you have to tune in & push start?
I guess the bigger question is stopping a recording, but one can always record long and truncate later.
Are you able to record multiple live feeds simultaneously?
I try to watch them live, but life sometimes gets in the way. I also really enjoy going back and looking at a play again and again as I may be looking at the wrong place and want to see it again, or watch what happens setting up a play.
Today's game will be telling to me. We didn't look very good against #4 (or #5, I forget) ASU but it was our first game of the season after not much practice. #3 will be very much better than #4. If we win these games, I will believe we should be #2 or #1. If we lose even one, it seems our chances of a NC are a lot less.
The quality of the video feed this year has been not so good. None of the camera work is great. Imagine if you had to watch basketball with a half-court view always, and then nothing but the head and hands of the players were visible. At least one of the games was blotchy due to lossy compression. Oh yea, that was ASU - you couldn't read the school's name in foot-high letters on the opposite side of the pool.
Also, the announcer has been weak. Maybe it is some student trying to learn the ropes of announcing and they relegated him to WWP. He sounds like he has a marble in his mouth, but maybe that is the mask. But what I object to is that he doesn't know the game. He should read the rule book and watch/listen to some well-announced games. I can forgive the basketball & ice hockey references.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-27-2021
I can pre-schedule the recording, but if the stream doesn't start on time, it will fail to record, so I need to keep an eye on that. I could write a little code to retry once a minute or so if the stream didn't start; I just haven't gotten around to that yet.
I can record multiple streams at once. At some point it would max out my network bandwidth, of course. Then some streams might bomb out or have dropouts; I'm not sure which it would be.
If the host school forgets to stop the stream and just leaves their logo onscreen, I can stop it manually when I notice and edit the recording to cut that out.
The software I use is a fork of youtube-dl. I made a pull request for my Pac-12.com support to be merged into the main line, but the devs are super busy with pull requests and other work, so it's not merged yet. In case you want to try it, I put an executable up at https://tim-mann.org/tmp/youtube-dl. See the documentation at https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ for how to use it. It's a command line Python app, no GUI.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - BobK - 03-27-2021
A great one goal win for Stanford
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-27-2021
My power went out after I got the game recorded but before I put it online. I went out for a walk and will see if power is back on when I get home.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-27-2021
https://youtu.be/gaImjGl55-c
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - martyup - 03-27-2021
Thanks Tim
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - CompSci87 - 03-28-2021
https://youtu.be/htOYOvlsvq4
NOTE: As I post this link, the video is still uploading and isn't available yet. It will become available in standard definition first, then in high definition later.
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - M T - 03-29-2021
This time of year there are so many games in so many sports. I really appreciate CompSci87 recording & making these games available.
(I notice his 3/19 WVB video has 3.6K views already)
Before reading further, I suggest you watch the last few seconds of Sunday's game:
https://youtu.be/htOYOvlsvq4?t=4074
Executive summary: On Saturday, Stanford was never behind, up by 3 goals at one point, and eked out a 1-goal win 12-11.
On Sunday, UCLA was never behind, ahead by 5 goals at one point, and eked out a 1-goal win 11-10.
With such close games, I wouldn't be surprised if UCLA were #2 and Stanford #3 next week. (Stanford has a loss other than to UCLA)
The camera work was certainly better this weekend. Saturday's game had a good announcer, Kevin Dana, who is knowledgeable about the sport. (Unfortunately, Sunday's game was back to the guy who doesn't know the difference between a drive and walking the ball in. "She shoots from about 40 meters out!")
On Saturday, Stanford started off up 4-1, but UCLA kept climbing back. Late in the game, Stanford scored a goal with 1:00 to go to make it 12-10. The ball squirted under the UCLA goalie's arm and just barely got over the goal line (the whole ball has to cross). UCLA puts their goalie in the field, setting up a 7 on 6, and scores with 39 seconds left, making the score 12-11. (The shot clock is 35 seconds). UCLA gets the ball with 4.8 seconds on the clock and calls a time out. At the end of the time out, UCLA again sets up a 7 on 6 offense. In water polo, it is common that time-outs don't go their full time. The refs gave the ball for UCLA to start play, and just as they threw the ball, the horn sounded. It was the horn to signal the approaching end of the time out. As a result, UCLA was given (or used?) another time out. UCLA got a lob shot on the goal, but it was easily deflected. Stanford won 12-11.
Score at the quarters: 4-2, 7-5, 9-8, 12-11
Sunday was a different beast. UCLA was up 4-1 in the 1st, but the quarter ended at 4-3. Stanford tied it at 4-4 but UCLA went on another run and ended the half up 8-4. UCLA stretched it to 9-4 before Stanford started its comeback. At the end of 3, Stanford was down 1 at 9-8. Stanford again tied it up at 9-9 but UCLA was up by 2, 11-9 with just under 3 minutes left. With 1:10 left, a Stanford shot was blocked by the goalie, but Stanford gets the rebound and puts it in, making it 11-10. With a full minute left, Stanford is pretty much guaranteed to run a full possession to get a shot, if UCLA doesn't score first. UCLA gets a clean pass to their hole player, but she intentionally drops the ball to the water with the intent of getting a common foul called. The foul isn't called and Stanford steals the ball with about 0:50 left.
This gives Stanford a chance for a fast break so the Stanford coach delays calling a time out. The Stanford player on the right wing has an advantage in the transition to offense. Her defender is all over her, which often leads to an ejection, but it isn't called. That delayed her enough that she doesn't have a clean shot on goal, so Stanford calls a timeout at 0:41 to set up a play. The shot clock will expire at 0:17. (This is the time point of the above video)
Stanford uses a 7th field player for the goalie. At about 0:27 Stanford had an opportunity with an open hole player, but didn't get the ball in. A shot at 0:22 is deflected by the goalie wide and Stanford recovers it (shot clock is off). A shot at 0:13 goes off the top bar & behind the goalie's head. The ball is may 3/4 over the goal line. The Stanford hole player starts toward the ball. All she has to do is touch it lightly and it will be a goal. But then you see her head go backwards -- an obvious (to me) penalty shot foul by three field players for UCLA at her waist. The goalie gets to the ball and throws it beyond the other side of the goal (typically a relatively safe place to dump the ball) - right to a Stanford player who can't get a clean catch and taps the ball toward the end line. She can't get to the ball, either because the player on her back is pulling her back, or she's faking it (you can't see what the UCLA player is doing with her right hand). The swallow-the-whistle ref calls the ball out of bounds off Stanford when it hits the end line.
Score at the quarters: 3-4, 4-8, 8-9, 10-11
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - cardcrimson - 03-29-2021
Great recap of the final 40 seconds. Not sure how you can "fake" getting fouled like that. Two brutal non-calls.
(03-29-2021, 12:19 AM)M T Wrote: This time of year there are so many games in so many sports. I really appreciate CompSci87 recording & making these games available.
(I notice his 3/19 WVB video has 3.6K views already)
Before reading further, I suggest you watch the last few seconds of Sunday's game:
https://youtu.be/htOYOvlsvq4?t=4074
Executive summary: On Saturday, Stanford was never behind, up by 3 goals at one point, and eked out a 1-goal win 12-11.
On Sunday, UCLA was never behind, ahead by 5 goals at one point, and eked out a 1-goal win 11-10.
With such close games, I wouldn't be surprised if UCLA were #2 and Stanford #3 next week. (Stanford has a loss other than to UCLA)
The camera work was certainly better this weekend. Saturday's game had a good announcer, Kevin Dana, who is knowledgeable about the sport. (Unfortunately, Sunday's game was back to the guy who doesn't know the difference between a drive and walking the ball in. "She shoots from about 40 meters out!")
On Saturday, Stanford started off up 4-1, but UCLA kept climbing back. Late in the game, Stanford scored a goal with 1:00 to go to make it 12-10. The ball squirted under the UCLA goalie's arm and just barely got over the goal line (the whole ball has to cross). UCLA puts their goalie in the field, setting up a 7 on 6, and scores with 39 seconds left, making the score 12-11. (The shot clock is 35 seconds). UCLA gets the ball with 4.8 seconds on the clock and calls a time out. At the end of the time out, UCLA again sets up a 7 on 6 offense. In water polo, it is common that time-outs don't go their full time. The refs gave the ball for UCLA to start play, and just as they threw the ball, the horn sounded. It was the horn to signal the approaching end of the time out. As a result, UCLA was given (or used?) another time out. UCLA got a lob shot on the goal, but it was easily deflected. Stanford won 12-11.
Score at the quarters: 4-2, 7-5, 9-8, 12-11
Sunday was a different beast. UCLA was up 4-1 in the 1st, but the quarter ended at 4-3. Stanford tied it at 4-4 but UCLA went on another run and ended the half up 8-4. UCLA stretched it to 9-4 before Stanford started its comeback. At the end of 3, Stanford was down 1 at 9-8. Stanford again tied it up at 9-9 but UCLA was up by 2, 11-9 with just under 3 minutes left. With 1:10 left, a Stanford shot was blocked by the goalie, but Stanford gets the rebound and puts it in, making it 11-10. With a full minute left, Stanford is pretty much guaranteed to run a full possession to get a shot, if UCLA doesn't score first. UCLA gets a clean pass to their hole player, but she intentionally drops the ball to the water with the intent of getting a common foul called. The foul isn't called and Stanford steals the ball with about 0:50 left.
This gives Stanford a chance for a fast break so the Stanford coach delays calling a time out. The Stanford player on the right wing has an advantage in the transition to offense. Her defender is all over her, which often leads to an ejection, but it isn't called. That delayed her enough that she doesn't have a clean shot on goal, so Stanford calls a timeout at 0:41 to set up a play. The shot clock will expire at 0:17. (This is the time point of the above video)
Stanford uses a 7th field player for the goalie. At about 0:27 Stanford had an opportunity with an open hole player, but didn't get the ball in. A shot at 0:22 is deflected by the goalie wide and Stanford recovers it (shot clock is off). A shot at 0:13 goes off the top bar & behind the goalie's head. The ball is may 3/4 over the goal line. The Stanford hole player starts toward the ball. All she has to do is touch it lightly and it will be a goal. But then you see her head go backwards -- an obvious (to me) penalty shot foul by three field players for UCLA at her waist. The goalie gets to the ball and throws it beyond the other side of the goal (typically a relatively safe place to dump the ball) - right to a Stanford player who can't get a clean catch and taps the ball toward the end line. She can't get to the ball, either because the player on her back is pulling her back, or she's faking it (you can't see what the UCLA player is doing with her right hand). The swallow-the-whistle ref calls the ball out of bounds off Stanford when it hits the end line.
Score at the quarters: 3-4, 4-8, 8-9, 10-11
RE: WWP: #2 vs #3 UCLA at Stanford Sat&Sun - martyup - 03-29-2021
If you watch our player that got pull backwards and down away from that near goal she finally surfaces about 10 feet back and to the left of the goal. They not only pulled her back, but they pushed her down deep in the water. She was forced to swim down and away from them to avoid drowning. Terrible non-call.