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Jack West to start vs KSU - 82lsju - 09-03-2021

from the Stanford Football presence on Facebook

Quote:Today Coach Shaw announced that Jack West will start against Kansas State. Both West and Tanner McKee will play throughout the game.

https://www.facebook.com/stanfordfootball/photos/a.367766136578130/4399810786706958/

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - Phogge - 09-03-2021

a) equally good?
b) equally bad?
c) equally mediocre?

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - 82lsju - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 09:38 AM)Phogge Wrote:  a) equally good?
b) equally bad?
c) equally mediocre?

d) all of the above?

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - martyup - 09-03-2021

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - JohnR34231 - 09-03-2021

My guess would be equally decent (but hardly great).

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - needle - 09-03-2021

I will be very curious to see how the plays/offense might differ when McKee is in compared to West.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - jonnyss - 09-03-2021

in the past, david shaw has often started the more experienced qb, who "knows the playbook better," until we lose a few games. will this year be different?

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - winflop - 09-03-2021

After two full years in the program, how does McKee not "know the playbook" by now? Either the playbook really is too complex or McKee is having comprehension issues - or both.

I really hope that West has made major strides forward from what we've seen of him the last two seasons. If not, I think we can consider McKee to be a bust. We will probably know within 24 hours.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - BobK - 09-03-2021

No we won’t know in 24 hours. It’s a long season. McKee is a soph not JR

So we hope it’s like Hogan vs Colorado

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - vataha - 09-03-2021

McGee? Tits McGee?

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - gailtate - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 10:16 AM)BobK Wrote:  No we won’t know in 24 hours. It’s a long season.  McGee is a soph not JR

So we hope it’s like Hogan vs Colorado

I will agree w/you about this being a long season.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - Phogge - 09-03-2021

McKee is four years out of high school. If he’s not ready to start now will he ever be? Shaw put his eggs in one basket and is now living with it good or bad. I think he should actively look for a transfer QB for 2022 (and convince Admissions to accede). And get off the ball on recruiting two QB’s for 2023.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - Goose - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 11:03 AM)Phogge Wrote:  I think he should actively look for a transfer QB for 2022 (and convince Admissions to accede). And get off the ball on recruiting two QB’s for 2023.

No, much too hard. He can invent a time machine to make John Elway 21 again and start him. Lots easier.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - lex24 - 09-03-2021

No clue how West will  do. But I do think he’s been wrongly labeled as below average based primarily if not exclusively on one start he made two years ago.  At a time he was not ready.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - teejers1 - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 11:19 AM)lex24 Wrote:  No clue how West will  do. But I do think he’s been wrongly labeled as below average based primarily if not exclusively on one start he made two years ago.  At a time he was not ready.

Quarterbacks at Stanford will never play up to their considerable recruiting talent under this regime until the playbook is scrapped and Shaw hires a real offensive coordinator to install a real, manageable college offense.  And Shaw gets out of the play-calling game.

The vaunted playbook we hear so much about is paralyzing talented players.

That's (been) my story, and I'm sticking with it!

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - Papa John - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 10:02 AM)winflop Wrote:  After two full years in the program, how does McKee not "know the playbook" by now? Either the playbook really is too complex or McKee is having comprehension issues - or both.

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C'mon guys, don't make the situation worse than it is.

Last year was McKee's first in the program, and it was hardly a "full" year. The two years before that he didn't play football at all. Kevin Hogan had a full year in the program and still wasn't deemed ready at the start of 2012, so I'm not reading too much into McKee not getting the start. If anything, the coaches are showing more faith in McKee than they showed in Hogan by stating that Tanner will play tomorrow versus a Power 5 foe. We'll see if he's up to the task.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - winflop - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 11:19 AM)lex24 Wrote:  No clue how West will  do. But I do think he’s been wrongly labeled as below average based primarily if not exclusively on one start he made two years ago.  At a time he was not ready.

Not just one game. West was an unimpressive 13/19 for 154 with 0 TD/0 INT against Oregon last year. You can argue all you want about how he was thrown into that situation last minute. As the backup QB you need to be prepared to be the guy at a moment's notice.

I think it's hard to argue that based on his two starts, West is anything better than mediocre, and that's not good enough. So let's hope he's significantly improved.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - oman - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 11:34 AM)Papa John Wrote:   Kevin Hogan had a full year in the program and still wasn't deemed ready at the start of 2012, so I'm not reading too much into McKee not getting the start.

You mean, using your example, you aren't reading that it seems like it's a mistake?

I'm just joshing. But I am getting ready for a repeat of 2012, and I would be whichever qb he started.  Not because of Shaw.  Just because I'm a half glass empty guy.

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - French Rage - 09-03-2021

(09-03-2021, 12:25 PM)oman Wrote:  

(09-03-2021, 11:34 AM)Papa John Wrote:   Kevin Hogan had a full year in the program and still wasn't deemed ready at the start of 2012, so I'm not reading too much into McKee not getting the start.

You mean, using your example, you aren't reading that it seems like it's a mistake?

I'm just joshing. But I am getting ready for a repeat of 2012, and I would be whichever qb he started.  Not because of Shaw.  Just because I'm a half glass empty guy.

12-2 and a Rose Bowl win?  I'll take it!

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RE: Jack West to start vs KSU - oman - 09-03-2021

Just went and looked at admittedly just the highlights of the Oregon game.  I thought West looked absolutely fine.  He made some really nice throws.

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