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What If? - thunder_chik - 10-26-2021

In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.
Conventional cards seem to be stacked against us. Well, what if we decided to go rogue and exit the Pac 12? What if we decided to schedule teams from schools that are “intellectual” and/or regional equals? For example: USC (natch), Notre Dame, Kal, San Jose State, Fresno State, San Diego State, Northwestern, Wake Forest, Duke, Vanderbilt, BYU, Harvard or Yale. How about a game with the Toledo Rockets? Perhaps fans would be intrigued. Obviously, we'd have to relinquish our Rose Bowl ambitions.
I’m not privy to all the financial/contractual nuances of our involvement with the Pac 12. I just think this might be an alternate reality that should be explored.

RE: What If? - Phogge - 10-26-2021

Probably lose to SC, Domers, SJS, Fresno, SDS, Wake, BYU and fall asleep against Harvard. Perhaps play Point Loma, Occidental, Immaculate Heart, Reed College and Deep Springs.

RE: What If? - BostonCard - 10-26-2021

You forgot William and Mary. We were actually supposed to play them last year.

BC

RE: What If? - Phogge - 10-26-2021

Mary died. William was Dutch and he could care less about running Power, the quick kick and nine overtime games.

RE: What If? - magnus - 10-27-2021

Don't forget to schedule Hawaii...for recruiting purposes.

RE: What If? - Papa John - 10-27-2021

I think more likely is the creation of a small number of superconferences that break away from the NCAA. I'm guessing Stanford would be a part of that, but maybe not in which case SJSU, Fresno State, etc. would be likely opponents--if Stanford doesn't drop football altogether.

RE: What If? - Mick - 10-27-2021

(10-26-2021, 09:31 PM)thunder_chik Wrote: In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.

Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

RE: What If? - murky - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 12:47 PM)Mick Wrote:
(10-26-2021, 09:31 PM)thunder_chik Wrote: In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.

Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

Other distinctions likely never to be matched are having the runner up 3 years in a row, and the same player as runner up twice.

RE: What If? - gailtate - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 12:47 PM)Mick Wrote:
(10-26-2021, 09:31 PM)thunder_chik Wrote: In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.

Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

Stanford runners-up: Elway, Gerhart, Luck, McCaffrey...But, other two? Frank Albert? Bill McColl? Dick Norman?

RE: What If? - thunder_chik - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 01:03 PM)gailtate Wrote:
(10-27-2021, 12:47 PM)Mick Wrote:
(10-26-2021, 09:31 PM)thunder_chik Wrote: In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.

Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

Stanford runners-up: Elway, Gerhart, Luck, McCaffrey...But, other two? Frank Albert? Bill McColl? Dick Norman?

Luck x2, Bryce Love (2017)

RE: What If? - Mick - 10-27-2021

(10-27-2021, 01:03 PM)gailtate Wrote:
(10-27-2021, 12:47 PM)Mick Wrote:
(10-26-2021, 09:31 PM)thunder_chik Wrote: In 1926 we went undefeated and tied Alabama (!) in the 1927 Rose Bowl. We were undefeated and rated #2 in 1940. #4 in 2010 and #3 in 2015. We probably have the most H award runner-ups in at least the last 20 years.

Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

Stanford runners-up: Elway, Gerhart, Luck, McCaffrey...But, other two? Frank Albert? Bill McColl? Dick Norman?

Bryce Love. And I counted Luck twice. And Albert finished third in 1941.

RE: What If? - Phogge - 10-27-2021

McColl was fourth in '51.

Dick Norman? LOL. 34/39 for 401 IN 1959! And they lose to Cal. Cactus Jack tries to rush Skip Face into the game to tie the score (FG) as time expires.

RE: What If? - DC 86 - 10-28-2021

(10-27-2021, 12:47 PM)Mick Wrote: Here's the number of runners-up by college. Turns out you're correct (this is since the inception of the award, not the last 20 years):

6 Stanford

5 Oklahoma

4 Iowa, Notre Dame, Southern California, Tennessee

3 Army, Ohio State, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Purdue,

2 Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, North Carolina, Texas, Tulsa

1 BYU, California, Clemson, Colorado, Columbia, Cornell, Florida, Florida State, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas State, LSU, Maryland, Oklahoma State, Pennsylvania, San Diego State, SMU, Syracuse, TCU, Temple, Texas A&M, Wisconsin

Oklahoma actually is tied with Stanford, they also has six runner-up finishes, by six different players:

Kurt Burris, Greg Pruitt, Billy Sims. Josh Heupel, Adrian Peterson, Jalen Hurts.

They also have seven winners.