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Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - 82lsju - 11-15-2021

At least that's my guess since I got an email offering two free tix (from the email it sounds like season ticket buyers will get the offer), locations are not great but still......

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Goose - 11-15-2021

Not surprisingly IMHO many people who might be tempted to buy a ticket most years won't do so this year. Casual fans may not know that if McKee is back it could be a pretty good game. All they know is that Stanford has lost a bunch of games and looked bad doing it. So why watch? I don't think the "butts in the seats" matter much to the AD in terms of $, but it does in terms of image. That is why the ticket giveaway. If it had any hope of working it would be one thing. It doesn't. In our neighborhood there are several sets of free good seats being given away. Few takers.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - winflop - 11-15-2021

Got the same email. I can't get anyone to sit with us in my two other GOOD seats.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - gailtate - 11-15-2021

I'm shocked. Shocked.

But as long as we're on the subject, consider this. Sixty years ago this week, 1961, it was raining like hell in the Bay Area. Long before the invention of "atmospheric rivers". They were quaintly known as "rainstorms" in those days. OK, want to know Big Game attendance? 79,000. Yup, that's what it was. To see two teams that totaled four wins combined. And that was 79,000 butts in the seats at Stanford Stadium. There were 82,000 tickets sold. Stanford won, 20-7, finishing the season 4-6. The win broke the then-Indians conference losing streak of 10 games. Weenies finished 1-8-1. But it still drew 79,000 fans in an afternoon downpour. The old days. We've come a long way. Down.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Phogge - 11-15-2021

San Jose games sometimes drew 60,000 or so. But Stanford looks down its nose at the Spartans. Kind of like “Those people.”

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Giants - 11-16-2021

(11-15-2021, 11:09 PM)gailtate Wrote: I'm shocked. Shocked.

But as long as we're on the subject, consider this. Sixty years ago this week, 1961, it was raining like hell in the Bay Area. Long before the invention of "atmospheric rivers". They were quaintly known as "rainstorms" in those days. OK, want to know Big Game attendance? 79,000. Yup, that's what it was. To see two teams that totaled four wins combined. And that was 79,000 butts in the seats at Stanford Stadium. There were 82,000 tickets sold. Stanford won, 20-7, finishing the season 4-6. The win broke the then-Indians conference losing streak of 10 games. Weenies finished 1-8-1. But it still drew 79,000 fans in an afternoon downpour. The old days. We've come a long way. Down.

The days of season ticket holders on both sides receiving a ticket as part of their season ticket package regardless of venue are long gone. Also long gone are the days of 88,000 in Stanford Stadium and 76,500 at Memorial Stadium regardless of the number of wins and losses posted by either team.

It was fun while it lasted….

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Snorlax94 - 11-16-2021

(11-15-2021, 11:41 PM)Phogge Wrote: San Jose games sometimes drew 60,000 or so. But Stanford looks down its nose at the Spartans. Kind of like “Those people.”

Sheesh, isn’t this supposed to be a board for Stanford athletics fans? It seems obsessive when every topic has to somehow morph into some kind of politicalesque whine about the state of the universe.

Anyway, for what it’s worth, tickets for Big Game and ND are going for a lot on StubHub.

I imagine the buyers for Notre Dame are Domers, but the actual factual evidence (StubHub prices) for the final two games show there is in fact demand.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - gailtate - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 12:29 AM)Snorlax94 Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 11:41 PM)Phogge Wrote: San Jose games sometimes drew 60,000 or so. But Stanford looks down its nose at the Spartans. Kind of like “Those people.”

Sheesh, isn’t this supposed to be a board for Stanford athletics fans? It seems obsessive when every topic has to somehow morph into some kind of politicalesque whine about the state of the universe.

Anyway, for what it’s worth, tickets for Big Game and ND are going for a lot on StubHub.

I imagine the buyers for Notre Dame are Domers, but the actual factual evidence (StubHub prices) for the final two games show there is in fact demand.

Yeah, that happens when the highest visibility, most important sport goes quietly to hell while the overpaid HC all but denies it. People get testy and cranky. I can't understand it either. Entitlement, maybe. Who knows?

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Row80Critic - 11-16-2021

79,000 at the '61 big game? Sure. When I grew up in the 60's, we got home from school and tuned the VHF knob until we got a test pattern, then we'd wait patiently until 4pm when the locally-produced, low/no-budget kids shows would come on for an hour before local news at 5. (Anyone remember Captain Satallite on KTVU). By 9 or 10 they played the national anthem and went back to the test pattern. No VCR/DVR, so if you missed it, you missed it. No Netflix or HBO or movie channels. No rent-at-home movies. No internet. No youtube. No Great America; Disneyland was a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and Frontier Village was once per summer if you were lucky. Lawrence Welk was the entertainment highlight of the week. No video games. Phone calls were expensive. Car trips we an adventure every time. Air travel was for the rich. No words with friends. Lucky to get one or two NFL games on Sunday and one or two college games on Saturday, in black and white. Jobs were contained to job time. Boys played little league a few weeks a summer. No soccer moms. No Volleyball leagues. Restaurants were for special occasions and there was no grub hub. Most houses were tiny.

So, sure, a local game between two bad teams was still a draw back then. Ask me how I know. ;)

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Giants - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 11:30 AM)Row80Critic Wrote: 79,000 at the '61 big game? Sure. When I grew up in the 60's, we got home from school and tuned the VHF knob until we got a test pattern, then we'd wait patiently until 4pm when the locally-produced, low/no-budget kids shows would come on for an hour before local news at 5. (Anyone remember Captain Satallite on KTVU). By 9 or 10 they played the national anthem and went back to the test pattern. No VCR/DVR, so if you missed it, you missed it. No Netflix or HBO or movie channels. No rent-at-home movies. No internet. No youtube. No Great America; Disneyland was a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and Frontier Village was once per summer if you were lucky. Lawrence Welk was the entertainment highlight of the week. No video games. Phone calls were expensive. Car trips we an adventure every time. Air travel was for the rich. No words with friends. Lucky to get one or two NFL games on Sunday and one or two college games on Saturday, in black and white. Jobs were contained to job time. Boys played little league a few weeks a summer. No soccer moms. No Volleyball leagues. Restaurants were for special occasions and there was no grub hub. Most houses were tiny.

So, sure, a local game between two bad teams was still a draw back then. Ask me how I know. ;)

Wow! You just took me back to “the good ‘ol days”…

May I add Crusader Rabbit and Brother Buzz - my favorite TV shows…….

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - gailtate - 11-16-2021

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79,000 at the '61 big game? Sure. When I grew up in the 60's, we got home from school and tuned the VHF knob until we got a test pattern, then we'd wait patiently until 4pm when the locally-produced, low/no-budget kids shows would come on for an hour before local news at 5. (Anyone remember Captain Satallite on KTVU). By 9 or 10 they played the national anthem and went back to the test pattern. No VCR/DVR, so if you missed it, you missed it. No Netflix or HBO or movie channels. No rent-at-home movies. No internet. No youtube. No Great America; Disneyland was a once-in-a-lifetime trip, and Frontier Village was once per summer if you were lucky. Lawrence Welk was the entertainment highlight of the week. No video games. Phone calls were expensive. Car trips we an adventure every time. Air travel was for the rich. No words with friends. Lucky to get one or two NFL games on Sunday and one or two college games on Saturday, in black and white. Jobs were contained to job time. Boys played little league a few weeks a summer. No soccer moms. No Volleyball leagues. Restaurants were for special occasions and there was no grub hub. Most houses were tiny.

So, sure, a local game between two bad teams was still a draw back then. Ask me how I know. ;)
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Those flights: Men in coats and ties, ladies in hats and heels. Just like vintage Big Games.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - M T - 11-16-2021

The WBB game between Texas and Stanford, with the ring ceremony for the National Champions, only drew 3600 (officially).

We've heard it here that sports in general is losing its appeal to even some CARDboarders after the pandemic.

It really doesn't matter to most people who is quarterback or how much the head coach makes or whether anything is on the line.
They've all got something else taking their time, and likely haven't a clue the Big Game is this weekend. Some of them will be absorbed in some video game, some will be taking kids to play soccer, some will be working, some watching Netflix or whatever, some shopping from home. Some would say they're not yet comfortable to be in a crowd, besides they get a better view on their 65" screen. A lot of them, when they see the score roll by on their video, will say "Oh, was that this weekend?" as there's rarely any publicity about the game once you're more than a half-mile from one of the campuses.

I wish it were different. I enjoyed going to local college FB games with my father, even in the cold and sometimes rain (little snow where I lived). There was a sense of community, even if it the game was the between two teams in the same city or from a few hours away. We had our side; they had theirs; if we got together, we could talk the same language even if we saw things differently.

Pro sports seems to be the only thing the newspapers have room for, or the regional TV channels carry (but so much of the video content delivered is no longer local or regional). It seems Pro sports has somewhat the same feel as college FB 60 years ago, but that's not my interest.

Hmmm... a promotion that might encourage long-term attendance: "Parents, bring your kids to get half-off on the price of an ADULT ticket." That's seems much better than a "Kids get in free" promotion.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - needle - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 02:02 PM)M T Wrote: The WBB game between Texas and Stanford, with the ring ceremony for the National Champions, only drew 3600 (officially).

We've heard it here that sports in general is losing its appeal to even some CARDboarders after the pandemic.

It really doesn't matter to most people who is quarterback or how much the head coach makes or whether anything is on the line.

They've all got something else taking their time, and likely haven't a clue the Big Game is this weekend. Some of them will be absorbed in some video game, some will be taking kids to play soccer, some will be working, some watching Netflix or whatever, some shopping from home. Some would say they're not yet comfortable to be in a crowd, besides they get a better view on their 65" screen. A lot of them, when they see the score roll by on their video, will say "Oh, was that this weekend?" as there's rarely any publicity about the game once you're more than a half-mile from one of the campuses.

I wish it were different. I enjoyed going to local college FB games with my father, even in the cold and sometimes rain (little snow where I lived). There was a sense of community, even if it the game was the between two teams in the same city or from a few hours away. We had our side; they had theirs; if we got together, we could talk the same language even if we saw things differently.

Pro sports seems to be the only thing the newspapers have room for, or the regional TV channels carry (but so much of the video content delivered is no longer local or regional). It seems Pro sports has somewhat the same feel as college FB 60 years ago, but that's not my interest.

Hmmm... a promotion that might encourage long-term attendance: "Parents, bring your kids to get half-off on the price of an ADULT ticket." That's seems much better than a "Kids get in free" promotion.

Feeling like there's a larger downward attendance trend specific to California CFB (and college athletics generally?), but would be interested in the data.

Fresno had a sellout football crowd this year...but it was their first sellout in seven years, so I'm unsure what the larger trend is for the Bulldogs.

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RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - AxeMan89 - 11-16-2021

Certainly there's regional factors at play, too. I have a kid at Michigan and a kid at Wisconsin and it seems the B10 still draws full houses even for patsies.

Meanwhile as a 30-year STH for women's basketball, I'll think twice about attending on a Thursday/Friday night with Bay Area traffic.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - cctop - 11-16-2021

(11-15-2021, 07:07 PM)82lsju Wrote: At least that's my guess since I got an email offering two free tix (from the email it sounds like season ticket buyers will get the offer), locations are not great but still......

Hmm, I didn't get that email. :-( But I let go of my sideline seats this year and kept only my family plan.

My draw mates fly in for Big Game each year and are buying tix. The cheapest seats today are ~$40 on Stubhub ($58 with fees), or $35 on Craigslist with no fees.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - teejers1 - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:04 PM)cctop Wrote:
(11-15-2021, 07:07 PM)82lsju Wrote: At least that's my guess since I got an email offering two free tix (from the email it sounds like season ticket buyers will get the offer), locations are not great but still......

Hmm, I didn't get that email. :-( But I let go of my sideline seats this year and kept only my family plan.

My draw mates fly in for Big Game each year and are buying tix. The cheapest seats today are ~$40 on Stubhub ($58 with fees), or $35 on Craigslist with no fees.

They will be for sale for next to nothing on game day.
This will be worst-attended Big Game in my lifetime (50+ years).

And MT, hate to break it to you, but Covid has very little influence on attendance in most places/parts of the world. Levi's looked pretty good for Rams-'Niners. And the Coliseum would be 50K+ (not even full) if the Trojans were anything but mediocre this season. I know many here don't buy it, but the product on the field matters (it is, after all, entertainment). I've never said playing an entertaining brand of ball is the #1 influencer in attendance, but I'll always believe it's a factor.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Papa John - 11-16-2021

The worst Stanford football team in my lifetime--other than 2006--was the 1983 team. The Play had ruined John Elway's final game, true freshman John Paye was our QB and our opening game was versus #2 Oklahoma. We lost 14-27, but it wasn't for lack of effort. I remember Paul Wiggin, or maybe someone else, declaring that Stanford was the best 0-1 team in college football.

Then we traveled to Illinois and lost, but the defense kept it close. A Stanford coach declared that we were the best 0-2 team in the land.

We came back home and lost to SJSU. I think someone muttered that we were the best 0-3 team in the land.

Then we lost to ASU, UCLA and Washington before squeaking out a win over #19 Arizona. Which was followed by losses to OSU, Oregon, USC and Cal.

But back to the topic at hand. Per wikipedia, home attendance was:
62,778 vs #2 Oklahoma (Stanford 0-0 going into the game)
68,201 vs SJSU (0-2)
55,804 vs UCLA (0-4)
40,208 vs Arizona (0-6)
31,420 vs Oregon (1-8)
84,804!!!!! vs Cal (1-9)

Of course, this was the Big Game immediately following The Play. GaryT was featured prominently in the halftime show, so that must also have been a factor in the impressive rebound in attendance.

And I'm sure that Stanford was the best 1-10 team in college football that year.

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - 82lsju - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:47 PM)Papa John Wrote: The worst Stanford football team in my lifetime--other than 2006--was the 1983 team. The Play had ruined John Elway's final game, true freshman John Paye was our QB and our opening game was versus #2 Oklahoma. We lost 14-27, but it wasn't for lack of effort. I remember Paul Wiggin, or maybe someone else, declaring that Stanford was the best 0-1 team in college football.

Then we traveled to Illinois and lost, but the defense kept it close. A Stanford coach declared that we were the best 0-2 team in the land.

We came back home and lost to SJSU. I think someone muttered that we were the best 0-3 team in the land.

Then we lost to ASU, UCLA and Washington before squeaking out a win over #19 Arizona. Which was followed by losses to OSU, Oregon, USC and Cal.

But back to the topic at hand. Per wikipedia, home attendance was:
62,778 vs #2 Oklahoma (Stanford 0-0 going into the game)
68,201 vs SJSU (0-2)
55,804 vs UCLA (0-4)
40,208 vs Arizona (0-6)
31,420 vs Oregon (1-8)
84,804!!!!! vs Cal (1-9)

Of course, this was the Big Game immediately following The Play. GaryT was featured prominently in the halftime show, so that must also have been a factor in the impressive rebound in attendance.

And I'm sure that Stanford was the best 1-10 team in college football that year.

and I think that those attendance numbers where people who showed up versus today's tickets sold

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - 76lsjumb - 11-16-2021

(11-16-2021, 03:51 PM)82lsju Wrote:
(11-16-2021, 03:47 PM)Papa John Wrote: The worst Stanford football team in my lifetime--other than 2006--was the 1983 team. The Play had ruined John Elway's final game, true freshman John Paye was our QB and our opening game was versus #2 Oklahoma. We lost 14-27, but it wasn't for lack of effort. I remember Paul Wiggin, or maybe someone else, declaring that Stanford was the best 0-1 team in college football.

Then we traveled to Illinois and lost, but the defense kept it close. A Stanford coach declared that we were the best 0-2 team in the land.

We came back home and lost to SJSU. I think someone muttered that we were the best 0-3 team in the land.

Then we lost to ASU, UCLA and Washington before squeaking out a win over #19 Arizona. Which was followed by losses to OSU, Oregon, USC and Cal.

But back to the topic at hand. Per wikipedia, home attendance was:
62,778 vs #2 Oklahoma (Stanford 0-0 going into the game)
68,201 vs SJSU (0-2)
55,804 vs UCLA (0-4)
40,208 vs Arizona (0-6)
31,420 vs Oregon (1-8)
84,804!!!!! vs Cal (1-9)

Of course, this was the Big Game immediately following The Play. GaryT was featured prominently in the halftime show, so that must also have been a factor in the impressive rebound in attendance.

And I'm sure that Stanford was the best 1-10 team in college football that year.

and I think that those attendance numbers where people who showed up versus today's tickets sold

I sure hope 84,000 people don’t show up on Saturday… getting thru the Vaxx line would take forever :-)

RE: Big Game ticket sales appear to be going slowly - Phogge - 11-16-2021

Hey Giants, Crusader Rabbit really was for adults. So was Fireman Frank (George Lamont) who was my favorite. Had a puppet chicken called Road Island Red.

We got one Seals game a week (Saturday with two cameras and Don Klein at the mic) until the first UHF station came on air. Think we got a couple of weekly bight games, one at Seals and one from Oakland until the Oaks moved after the '55 season to Vancouver. Klein did Stanford football, Bud Foster did the Oaks radio, Roy Storey the Channel 32 (UHF with a special rabbit ears coil antenna) games and Bob Fouts doing the Niners from Kezar. There was one game of the week on NBC with Lindsey Nelson calling and Red Grange doing color. There were a couple of other games on Dumont but not everybody saw them. CBS handled the NFL GOTW. Rozelle negotiated the contract that guaranteed that every home market in the NFL viewed their home team on CBS on the road. Local games were blacked out. NBC did a deal with the AFL.

Big Game was THE sports event in the Bay Area. The Saturday morning papers had many pages devoted to the game.

Kids actually played outside. We made up our own games, played football in the streets and went to Saturday matinees mostly to raise hell early and then to meet girls a bit later in adolescence. We didn't have the experience of growing up in the country shooting squirrels and swimming in ponds but we did know how to string cherry bombs together and how to lead a moving car with a dirt clod.