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A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - threepointer - 12-09-2024
Just spit balling here. No reason to roll over and play dead just because the rules have changed. Change is constant. Success is earned by those who can deal with change.
There is no question that the transfer portal has had a disproportionate impact on Stanford football. Just seeing Yurocek playing for Georgia vs Texas was an unpleasant reminder of some of what we lost to the portal. I do think that Stanford has some options on how to benefit from the portal.
Remember Chase Beeler. He committed to Oklahoma because his mother would not sign his commitment to Stanford. He had not yet turned 18. So, he waited and transferred to Stanford after his first season at Oklahoma. He was 18 and able to make that decision. He became an All-American center playing for Stanford.
Every year we have recruits who don’t make the academic cut. They end up somewhere else despite their desire to attend Stanford. Why don’t we give them a message; “Do exceptionally well academically in your Freshman/Sophmore years and we will consider you for admittance.
For that matter, why not make public the strategy to consider academically qualified candidates at other schools. This could motivate some players to work harder, get better grades and test scores. Also, this could be attractive to motivated and talented players who are buried in the depth chart on teams with deep rosters.
Establish an NIL program to compensate players with the proviso that the funds are invested in a trust that matures when the player graduates or completes their professional football career. This would be a sensible way to prevent football players from standing apart from their classmates. Shedeur Sanders tooling around the Colorado campus in his Rolls Royce ($350k) or Tesla Cybertruck ($80k minimum) and gifting a $200k Maybach to one of his offensive lineman are examples of this separation.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - Spiny_Norman - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 02:56 PM)threepointer Wrote: Remember Chase Beeler. He committed to Oklahoma because his mother would not sign his commitment to Stanford. He had not yet turned 18. So, he waited and transferred to Stanford after his first season at Oklahoma. He was 18 and able to make that decision. He became an All-American center playing for Stanford.
I believe this was Glyn Milburn, not Chase Beeler.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - threepointer - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 03:09 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote:(12-09-2024, 02:56 PM)threepointer Wrote: Remember Chase Beeler. He committed to Oklahoma because his mother would not sign his commitment to Stanford. He had not yet turned 18. So, he waited and transferred to Stanford after his first season at Oklahoma. He was 18 and able to make that decision. He became an All-American center playing for Stanford.
I believe this was Glyn Milburn, not Chase Beeler.
Thanks for pointing that out. Glyn Milburn and Chase Beeler are both examples of Sooners that later matriculated to Stanford. Milburn attended the University of Oklahoma in 1988 and Stanford from 1990 to 1992. Beeler played for Oklahoma in 2006, sat out 2007 for transfer rules, and completed his college career at Stanford from 2008-2010.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - Mick - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 02:56 PM)threepointer Wrote: Just spit balling here. No reason to roll over and play dead just because the rules have changed. Change is constant. Success is earned by those who can deal with change.
There is no question that the transfer portal has had a disproportionate impact on Stanford football. Just seeing Yurocek playing for Georgia vs Texas was an unpleasant reminder of some of what we lost to the portal. I do think that Stanford has some options on how to benefit from the portal.
Yurosek had 15 catches and 185 yards with Georgia. 2nd string behind Oscar Delp. 3rd string Lawson Luckie had 24 receptions.
Did he improve his position for the NFL by going to Georgia? He had 91 catches in two years at Stanford, for nearly 1,100 yards.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - SamuelMcF - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 04:15 PM)Mick Wrote:(12-09-2024, 02:56 PM)threepointer Wrote: Just spit balling here. No reason to roll over and play dead just because the rules have changed. Change is constant. Success is earned by those who can deal with change.
There is no question that the transfer portal has had a disproportionate impact on Stanford football. Just seeing Yurocek playing for Georgia vs Texas was an unpleasant reminder of some of what we lost to the portal. I do think that Stanford has some options on how to benefit from the portal.
Yurosek had 15 catches and 185 yards with Georgia. 2nd string behind Oscar Delp. 3rd string Lawson Luckie had 24 receptions.
Did he improve his position for the NFL by going to Georgia? He had 91 catches in two years at Stanford, for nearly 1,100 yards.
What about Jaxson Moi? Tennessee had 21 defenders play in 11 or 12 games this season. He was the worst-rated of all of them.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - chrisk - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 02:56 PM)threepointer Wrote: Just spit balling here. No reason to roll over and play dead just because the rules have changed. Change is constant. Success is earned by those who can deal with change.
There is no question that the transfer portal has had a disproportionate impact on Stanford football. Just seeing Yurocek playing for Georgia vs Texas was an unpleasant reminder of some of what we lost to the portal. I do think that Stanford has some options on how to benefit from the portal.
Remember Chase Beeler. He committed to Oklahoma because his mother would not sign his commitment to Stanford. He had not yet turned 18. So, he waited and transferred to Stanford after his first season at Oklahoma. He was 18 and able to make that decision. He became an All-American center playing for Stanford.
Every year we have recruits who don’t make the academic cut. They end up somewhere else despite their desire to attend Stanford. Why don’t we give them a message; “Do exceptionally well academically in your Freshman/Sophmore years and we will consider you for admittance.
For that matter, why not make public the strategy to consider academically qualified candidates at other schools. This could motivate some players to work harder, get better grades and test scores. Also, this could be attractive to motivated and talented players who are buried in the depth chart on teams with deep rosters.
Establish an NIL program to compensate players with the proviso that the funds are invested in a trust that matures when the player graduates or completes their professional football career. This would be a sensible way to prevent football players from standing apart from their classmates. Shedeur Sanders tooling around the Colorado campus in his Rolls Royce ($350k) or Tesla Cybertruck ($80k minimum) and gifting a $200k Maybach to one of his offensive lineman are examples of this separation.
Taylor said in his press conference they would not dangle hope to players who for one reason or another did not come to Stanford. They would keep the relationship positive and Stanford will have files on many of the possibly qualified candidates who later enter the transfer portal. As mentioned in other threads, Stanford has to jump quickly on candidates who enter the portal.
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - qwerty49 - 12-09-2024
My understanding was that the admissions folks would only consider an undergrad transfer if that person would have been a Stanford admit as a frosh. That always seemed silly to me because it did not account for the concept of "improvement."
The difference between a 16-17 yr old and a say, 19-20 yr old is pretty darn clear in my mind. If a high school jr/sr was just out of admit range for Stanford, but went to another school with proven academics, and performed well there for a couple of years, why wouldn't he/she be given consideration as a transfer? It seems to me that that academic performance at the college level always tops high school performance.
I hope whatever new undergraduate transfer policies are put in place will address this. There should be a way to reward young folks who try even harder the second time around. (And if their extra-curricular activities happen to include high-level athletic performance, well, so much the better).
RE: A modest proposal for Stanford to address the transfer portal - chrisk - 12-09-2024
(12-09-2024, 06:28 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: My understanding was that the admissions folks would only consider an undergrad transfer if that person would have been a Stanford admit as a frosh. That always seemed silly to me because it did not account for the concept of "improvement."
The difference between a 16-17 yr old and a say, 19-20 yr old is pretty darn clear in my mind. If a high school jr/sr was just out of admit range for Stanford, but went to another school with proven academics, and performed well there for a couple of years, why wouldn't he/she be given consideration as a transfer? It seems to me that that academic performance at the college level always tops high school performance.
I hope whatever new undergraduate transfer policies are put in place will address this. There should be a way to reward young folks who try even harder the second time around. (And if their extra-curricular activities happen to include high-level athletic performance, well, so much the better).
As Taylor explained it in his press conference, the academics for transfers is based on the class of the transfer.
A frosh transfer, most of the available data will be the high school transcript. As more college data is accoumulated, the high school transcript becomes lees important. For post-bacc, high school would have minimal imprortance.