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WBB: Stanford 63 Cal 83 - 81alum - 12-12-2024
Preview:
A week after our overtime loss at LSU, we get to go across the bay to play a very good Cal team. Cal is 9-1 against a fairly challenging schedule. They defeated Gonzaga quite handily, as did we, but they have also defeated Auburn, Arizona, and #19 Alabama. Their sole loss was to Michigan State in a tournament. Massey has them at 36 and rapidly climbing, and us at 16 and rapidly declining. Indiana and LSU are the only teams we have played ranked by Massey as higher than Cal, and of course we lost to both of them. So I expect a very competitive, tight game. And this also will be our first conference game.
Cal has five double digit scorers, so it won't be easy to "pick our poison." Cal this year is led by two outstanding guards. Lulu Twidale is the name least familiar to us, although she played last year as a freshman. This year, the 5'10" Aussie sophomore is leading the team in points, minutes, and three pointers. She is joined by the more familiar 5'10" Greek grad student Ioanna Krimili, who has been a handful for us in prior years. The two of them have each made more than 30 treys, and both of them are shooting above 42% from distance. That will put a lot of pressure on our perimeter defense.
But Cal is well balanced. Inside they have Marta Suarez, a 6'3" Spanish senior forward, who is also in double digit scoring, as well as Michelle Onyiah, the 6'3" center who leads the team in rebounding and ALSO scores in double digits.
Finally, the fifth starter is 5'7" grad student guard Kayla Williams, who transferred in from USC. Yes, that Kayla Williams. She is also scoring in double digits, and is also shooting the three at 42%.
Three guards who ALL shoot the three at 42%, and powerful inside forwards. Loads of experience. Playing at home. I know I have the reputation for pessimism, but I honestly believe Cal should be favored in this game. I will hope for the best. There comes a time when "every loss is a blessing" begins to sound trite. Another loss would certainly not be a blessing, at this stage. We need to get on track, and win our first league game.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - JohnR34231 - 12-12-2024
(12-12-2024, 11:50 AM)81alum Wrote: Preview:
A week after our overtime loss at LSU, we get to go across the bay to play a very good Cal team. Cal is 9-1 against a fairly challenging schedule. They defeated Gonzaga quite handily, as did we, but they have also defeated Auburn, Arizona, and #19 Alabama. Their sole loss was to Michigan State in a tournament. Massey has them at 36 and rapidly climbing, and us at 16 and rapidly declining. Indiana and LSU are the only teams we have played ranked by Massey as higher than Cal, and of course we lost to both of them. So I expect a very competitive, tight game. And this also will be our first conference game.
Cal has five double digit scorers, so it won't be easy to "pick our poison." Cal this year is led by two outstanding guards. Lulu Twidale is the name least familiar to us, although she played last year as a freshman. This year, the 5'10" Aussie sophomore is leading the team in points, minutes, and three pointers. She is joined by the more familiar 5'10" Greek grad student Ioanna Krimili, who has been a handful for us in prior years. The two of them have each made more than 30 treys, and both of them are shooting above 42% from distance. That will put a lot of pressure on our perimeter defense.
But Cal is well balanced. Inside they have Marta Suarez, a 6'3" Spanish senior forward, who is also in double digit scoring, as well as Michelle Onyiah, the 6'3" center who leads the team in rebounding and ALSO scores in double digits.
Finally, the fifth starter is 5'7" grad student guard Kayla Williams, who transferred in from USC. Yes, that Kayla Williams. She is also scoring in double digits, and is also shooting the three at 42%.
Three guards who ALL shoot the three at 42%, and powerful inside forwards. Loads of experience. Playing at home. I know I have the reputation for pessimism, but I honestly believe Cal should be favored in this game. I will hope for the best. There comes a time when "every loss is a blessing" begins to sound trite. Another loss would certainly not be a blessing, at this stage. We need to get on track, and win our first league game.
Yeah, since we have yet to win on the road or beat a particularly good team, you are probably right they should be favored. Hopefully we will play the way we did for 39 minutes and 40 seconds against LSU.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - crackpot - 12-13-2024
I just can't bring myself to go to this game, though it's only a 20-minute drive, with traffic. Parking's scary, the Haas mausoleum is soulless, and I don't want the experience of sitting there for two hours in constant stress.
Trying not to feel guilty about it.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - JohnR34231 - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:03 AM)crackpot Wrote: I just can't bring myself to go to this game, though it's only a 20-minute drive, with traffic. Parking's scary, the Haas mausoleum is soulless, and I don't want the experience of sitting there for two hours in constant stress.
Trying not to feel guilty about it.
Well, it probably will be a close down to the wire game.
Hopefully we won't find a way to lose.
If we do, we will of course blame the refs.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - crackpot - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:33 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-13-2024, 10:03 AM)crackpot Wrote: I just can't bring myself to go to this game, though it's only a 20-minute drive, with traffic. Parking's scary, the Haas mausoleum is soulless, and I don't want the experience of sitting there for two hours in constant stress.
Trying not to feel guilty about it.
Well, it probably will be a close down to the wire game.
Hopefully we won't find a way to lose.
If we do, we will of course blame the refs.
LOL, yup, that's a given. We don't need me yelling at Brenda and/or Tiffany tonight.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - 81alum - 12-13-2024
Haas really is a dreadful place. It feels dim, you sit far away, and everything just feels dank and old. Reminds me of a larger version of my high school gym.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - JohnR34231 - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:47 AM)crackpot Wrote:(12-13-2024, 10:33 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote:(12-13-2024, 10:03 AM)crackpot Wrote: I just can't bring myself to go to this game, though it's only a 20-minute drive, with traffic. Parking's scary, the Haas mausoleum is soulless, and I don't want the experience of sitting there for two hours in constant stress.
Trying not to feel guilty about it.
Well, it probably will be a close down to the wire game.
Hopefully we won't find a way to lose.
If we do, we will of course blame the refs.
LOL, yup, that's a given. We don't need me yelling at Brenda and/or Tiffany tonight.
Isn't that half the fun?
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - M T - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:03 AM)crackpot Wrote: the Haas mausoleum is soulless
Best quote of the week!
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - SkiBum80 - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:03 AM)crackpot Wrote: I just can't bring myself to go to this game, though it's only a 20-minute drive, with traffic. Parking's scary, the Haas mausoleum is soulless, and I don't want the experience of sitting there for two hours in constant stress.
Trying not to feel guilty about it.
It could drive a fan to follow after Lucy's example and hit the vitameatavegamin kinda hard.
I found that very helpful during our football season.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - liveoak - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 10:52 AM)81alum Wrote: Haas really is a dreadful place. It feels dim, you sit far away, and everything just feels dank and old. Reminds me of a larger version of my high school gym.
I remember when it was Harmon Gym and it was a bandbox then. I shot a Stanford-Cal game there in the late 70s and it was dim as Hades - ASA 1600 on TriX territory. They just took the original footprint and added an upper desk to it. I feel like I'm going to slide down to the court every time I'm in the upper desk. And it is pretty dank. I saw the Stanford-OSU game at Gill Coliseum in Corvallis last year - a small bandbox but really exciting and a great place to see a basketball game...the fans were crazy!!
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - CompSci87 - 12-13-2024
Haas has such a weird vibe. To me it somehow feels like we're in a giant indoor swimming pool or aquarium that was drained and had bleachers bolted to the walls.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - crackpot - 12-13-2024
(12-13-2024, 05:35 PM)CompSci87 Wrote: Haas has such a weird vibe. To me it somehow feels like we're in a giant indoor swimming pool or aquarium that was drained and had bleachers bolted to the walls.
YES!
It was a lot more fun when you could show up, sit on courtside bleachers that were in need of some sanding, and suck on a Tootsie Roll Pop.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - crackpot - 12-13-2024
...at least if I barf, it's a short walk to the toilet.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - CompSci87 - 12-13-2024
Crummy start.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - mbdude - 12-13-2024
yeah, 1 fg in 6minutes
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - 81alum - 12-13-2024
Call off to a good start, but Stanford somewhat recovers. We are not helped by the officiating. (Cal 0 fouls, Stanford 4.) Hopefully things settle down and we can improve over the final three. After Cal gets a 10-3 start our defense improves and the first quarter ends 14-12.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - CompSci87 - 12-13-2024
Lucky to be down only 14-12 after the first quarter. We gave up a ton of O-boards under Cal's basket, and fouled a bunch to 0 fouls by Cal. Fortunately Cal missed a ton of shots.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - crackpot - 12-13-2024
Shouldn't have to have Pantoja two games in a row...
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - 81alum - 12-13-2024
The close Cal defense is something we have never seen from them before. The are seriously contesting every pass. A page from Indiana. This should leave some lanes open for drives, but is taking away the three point line and a lot of the passing.
RE: WBB: Stanford @ Cal Friday 7pm; preview and game thread - mbdude - 12-13-2024
tough game to watch, disappointing