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The Redshirt Juniors - AthleticsDynasty - 08-04-2013

Barring injuries is there any chance Ed Reynolds, David Yankey, Henry Anderson stay for a 5th year? What about AJ Tarpley, David Parry, and Cam Flemming? I know it will mostly depend on what happens during the season but do 5th year guys get to take normal classes or do they have to become grad students? And how would that effect their decisions?

I fully expect Yankey to leave he seems like a sure fire 1st round pick and we have the depth on the OL to replace him. If we could retain Ed and Henry along with the others I think we have a chance to be beyond special in 2014.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - donkey687 - 08-04-2013

Of those you listed, Yankey is the only one that may grade out in the first four rounds and have an economic argument so it isn't obvious that those others will depart early, but you never know ala Terrence Brown.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - AthleticsDynasty - 08-04-2013

(08-04-2013, 09:10 AM)donkey687 link Wrote:Of those you listed, Yankey is the only one that may grade out in the first four rounds and have an economic argument so it isn't obvious that those others will depart early, but you never know ala Terrence Brown.

Reynolds is definitely a top 4 round pick, he would of been one last year. More than anyone else getting Ed Reynolds back would be the biggest game changer


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - CompSci87 - 08-04-2013

Also, first year master's classes can be pretty "normal." Depending on the program, they might just be more upper-division classes in what you had already been majoring in.


Maybe not - Redrum - 08-04-2013

Ed Reynolds is not a lock to go.  I think we and the NFL will be looking at his senior season pretty closely to see if he maintains or regresses in his most eye-popping stat:  interceptions.  No way of knowing if he regresses to some mean or truly has a gift...until the season is over.









Re: Maybe not - slide - 08-04-2013

(08-04-2013, 02:29 PM)Redrum link Wrote:Ed Reynolds is not a lock to go.  I think we and the NFL will be looking at his senior season pretty closely to see if he maintains or regresses in his most eye-popping stat:  interceptions.  No way of knowing if he regresses to some mean or truly has a gift...until the season is over.

+1

on safety play last year, even with the pick 6s, Reynolds often was with Mason on the sidelines.  he needs to improve his pursuit angles and tackling (imo)


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - needle - 08-04-2013

I'd be very surprised if either Yankey or Anderson return, though Wilner has Anderson projected only as a "potential mid-round selection." He has Yankey as the fourth-best pro prospect in the Pac-12. He has Reynolds as the 11th-best prospect.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23139771/wilner-pac-12s-top-nfl-draft-prospects-2014





Jordan Richards - needle - 08-04-2013

Jordan Richards isn't as under the radar as some of us might think. Kiper had both he and Reynolds listed in his top five safety prospects for the 2014 NFL Draft.

https://twitter.com/StanfordFball/status/334420245894807553




Re: The Redshirt Juniors - washingtonismoney - 08-04-2013

Guess here is that Reynolds and Yankey leave, rest stay.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - StannyBoy - 08-04-2013

Yankey will definitely leave early and Anderson and Reynolds will likely as well. DBs who get picks are overvalued. And after being a 3 year starter I think Fleming leaves early unless he bombs this year and isn't projected to be drafted. He's not going to increase his stock anymore. Richards may want to stay to get his degree but I think he's going to have a monster season. And if any of these guys get a Skov-like injury then that could change things. Skov was considering leaving after his jr year if he was projected for the first round.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - needle - 08-04-2013

In case anybody (like me) forgot, both Anderson and Richards (along with Patrick Skov) were first-teamers on the Pac-12 All Academic team last year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/49836/pac-12-all-academic-team

I honestly don't know if this particular info makes them more or less likely to leave. If we use it as a proxy to mean that they're on track to graduate, I would guess it makes it more likely that Anderson leaves and Richards stays. But who knows.

Regardless, I'm yet again impressed by the student-athletes at Stanford.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - OutsiderFan - 08-05-2013

It's always tough to handicap this stuff.  Everyone has different motivations.  Sometimes the elite, first round pick- types stay, and the UFA types go.  Guys who truly love their college experience may stay.  Guys who have their degrees may be ready to leave.  Some guys may be True Juniors or RS Sophs and elect to leave early because they badly want to play at next level.

As Stanford brings in better quality athletes in conjunction with becoming a destination program, you may see more and more True Frosh playing expressly because playing them early allows Stanford to get a guaranteed three years out of someone, vs. two if they redshirt.

Look at Alex Carter.  By all appearances, the guy is a high round NFL pick in the making.  He's poised to have a real breakout year this season.  Had he redshirted, he'd be a redshirt Frosh this year, on track to really breakout in 2014, a year that he can declare for draft.  Had that been the case, Stanford may have only gotten two years out of him on the field.  As it is, he played and made a big contribution as a Frosh, will breakout this year, and Stanford has him for a third year in 2014.

A guy like Barry Sanders may be more likely to stay in college until his eligibility is up (given his father's influence), so red shirting him may not mean much in terms of losing him early.


Re: The Redshirt Juniors - Bruce Wang - 08-05-2013

(08-04-2013, 07:55 PM)needle link Wrote:In case anybody (like me) forgot, both Anderson and Richards (along with Patrick Skov) were first-teamers on the Pac-12 All Academic team last year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/49836/pac-12-all-academic-team

If they adjusted this for strength of schedule, Kevin Danser would be Pac-12 Academic MVP with his 3.13 in biomechanical engineering.