The next official standings won't be released until the weekend. But football points are awarded per USA Today's final Coaches poll -- and Stanford has just been ranked 12th. Last year that meant 64.5 points; if history repeats, the Cardinal now have 506.5 points. Neither UCLA (348), North Carolina (320) nor BYU (267.5) earned any football points.
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(This post was last modified: 03-26-2017, 10:56 AM by CompSci87.)
The next official standings won't be released until the weekend. But football points are awarded per USA Today's final Coaches poll -- and Stanford has just been ranked 12th. Last year that meant 64.5 points; if history repeats, the Cardinal now have 506.5 points. Neither UCLA (348), North Carolina (320) nor BYU (267.5) earned any football points.
01-10-2017, 01:17 PM
Higher in the rankings would have been nice, but I can't really argue given the bad losses Stanford suffered. And Stanford outranked LSU! Take that, $EC 8)
01-10-2017, 06:28 PM
Good luck to the rest of the field. Another 100 is virtually assured in women's swimming.Â
When I registered here in 2014, TrumpCard seemed like an apolitical user ID...
01-10-2017, 07:23 PM
Trump the women's swimming team looks great but we need all the elements. The relays are high point events and we are NOT strong in the breast stroke.
01-10-2017, 09:03 PM
(01-10-2017, 07:23 PM)BobK link Wrote:and we are strong in the breast stroke.
did you mean "not"?
01-11-2017, 07:27 AM
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(01-10-2017, 01:09 PM)FarmDad.01 link Wrote:The next official standings won't be released until the weekend. But football points are awarded per USA Today's final Coaches poll -- and Stanford has just been ranked 12th. Last year that meant 64.5 points; if history repeats, the Cardinal now have 506.5 points. Neither UCLA (348), North Carolina (320) nor BYU (267.5) earned any football points.
FarmDad, I offer a few corrections to your post.
The Cardinal have 440 points through the December 22 scoring release. Adding the 64.5 for 12th place in football raises the unofficial total to 504.5. This is a strong result, especially given that we were concerned about matching last year's Fall total of 480 after early tournament exits by WFH and WSOC. And scoring was very balanced, with three Men's teams earning 254.5 points and four Women's teams earning 250 points.
For quick reference, the football points structure follows below:
FBS Football
The following breakdown will be used:
1st place - 1-25 using the final USA Today poll (comes out after the National Championship game), point breakdown is as follows: We will be using the 64-team non-bracket point system for the top-25 teams with 25th place receiving 49 points.
26th place - Bowl game winners not ranked in poll (45 points)
Next Available Place - Bowl game losers not ranked in the poll (25 points)
UCLA stayed home and earned no Football points. BYU won their bowl game with Wyoming and earned 45 points. UNC earned 25 points in their Sun Bowl loss.
Geaux Cardinal!
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(01-10-2017, 01:09 PM)FarmDad.01 link Wrote:The next official standings won't be released until the weekend. But football points are awarded per USA Today's final Coaches poll -- and Stanford has just been ranked 12th. Last year that meant 64.5 points; if history repeats, the Cardinal now have 506.5 points. Neither UCLA (348), North Carolina (320) nor BYU (267.5) earned any football points.
FarmDad, I offer a few corrections to your post.
The Cardinal have 440 points through the December 22 scoring release. Adding the 64.5 for 12th place in football raises the unofficial total to 504.5. This is a strong result, especially given that we were concerned about matching last year's Fall total of 480 after early tournament exits by WFH and WSOC. And scoring was very balanced, with three Men's teams earning 254.5 points and four Women's teams earning 250 points.
For quick reference, the football points structure follows below:
FBS Football
The following breakdown will be used:
1st place - 1-25 using the final USA Today poll (comes out after the National Championship game), point breakdown is as follows: We will be using the 64-team non-bracket point system for the top-25 teams with 25th place receiving 49 points.
26th place - Bowl game winners not ranked in poll (45 points)
Next Available Place - Bowl game losers not ranked in the poll (25 points)
UCLA stayed home and earned no Football points. BYU won their bowl game with Wyoming and earned 45 points. UNC earned 25 points in their Sun Bowl loss.
Geaux Cardinal!
01-11-2017, 01:47 PM
(01-10-2017, 07:23 PM)BobK link Wrote:Trump the women's swimming team looks great but we need all the elements. The relays are high point events and we are NOT strong in the breast stroke.
I don't doubt we'll lose points to other top teams in the breaststroke events, but the two medley relays won't make or break us (assuming we don't false start!). I believe there will be three free relays and those should more than balance out the medley relays. Current best time rankings:Â
200 MR: 6 (we won that meet's event by 2.6 seconds),
400 MR: 2 (we won that meet's event by 4+ seconds),
200 FR: 4 (we won by 2.3 seconds),
400 FR: 6 (we won by 6 seconds),
800 FR: 1 (we won by 10 seconds).Â
The reason I point out that we won by big margins is to indicate that the swims (and starts) were likely not as fast as we could go.
When I look at Poppe's recent times vs a couple of years ago, it seems she will likely be in the 59.0 range for the 100 Br, with a reasonable chance to be in the 58s. She had a low 59 a couple of years ago but something happened that kept her from swimming well for more than a year (a second slower at 2015 PAC-12, and another second slower at 2016 PAC-12). In November, she went a 1:00.20 on the medley relay at Ohio State (1:00.82 in the individual prelims).
The schools with swimmers currently under a minute are Indiana (Lily King is a second ahead of every one),
under 59.0: FSU, UVa, Louisville,
under 1:00: Texas A&M, Minn, Iowa, Missouri, NC State, So Cal, Ariz, OSU, Texas A&M, Pitt
Overall, Cal & Georgia are ranked #2 behind Stanford. Their fastest breaststrokers are at 1:00.55 and 1:00.67 currently. So, unless something changes, the breaststroke events may not decide the meet.
In the 400MR, current bests are
Cal    3:28.33! (50.85!, 1:00.40, 50.25, 46.83) B team swimmers weren't faster
Stanford 3:29.63Â (Howe 51.45, Williams 1:00.69, Hu 50.22, Manuel 47.27), (Poppe was on the B team with a 1:00.20)
Texas  3:29.77 (51.08, 59.58, 51.95, 47.54)Â
Virginia 3:29.92 (52.86, 58.07!, 50.87, 48.12)
Arizona 3:30.26
Georgia 3:30.34 (51.50, 1:00.07, 51.68, 46.09!)
I wondered about that relatively slow 47.27 by Simone until I realized we won the event by a very big margin, so she had no reason to push it.
(01-10-2017, 07:23 PM)BobK link Wrote:Trump the women's swimming team looks great but we need all the elements. The relays are high point events and we are NOT strong in the breast stroke.
I don't doubt we'll lose points to other top teams in the breaststroke events, but the two medley relays won't make or break us (assuming we don't false start!). I believe there will be three free relays and those should more than balance out the medley relays. Current best time rankings:Â
200 MR: 6 (we won that meet's event by 2.6 seconds),
400 MR: 2 (we won that meet's event by 4+ seconds),
200 FR: 4 (we won by 2.3 seconds),
400 FR: 6 (we won by 6 seconds),
800 FR: 1 (we won by 10 seconds).Â
The reason I point out that we won by big margins is to indicate that the swims (and starts) were likely not as fast as we could go.
When I look at Poppe's recent times vs a couple of years ago, it seems she will likely be in the 59.0 range for the 100 Br, with a reasonable chance to be in the 58s. She had a low 59 a couple of years ago but something happened that kept her from swimming well for more than a year (a second slower at 2015 PAC-12, and another second slower at 2016 PAC-12). In November, she went a 1:00.20 on the medley relay at Ohio State (1:00.82 in the individual prelims).
The schools with swimmers currently under a minute are Indiana (Lily King is a second ahead of every one),
under 59.0: FSU, UVa, Louisville,
under 1:00: Texas A&M, Minn, Iowa, Missouri, NC State, So Cal, Ariz, OSU, Texas A&M, Pitt
Overall, Cal & Georgia are ranked #2 behind Stanford. Their fastest breaststrokers are at 1:00.55 and 1:00.67 currently. So, unless something changes, the breaststroke events may not decide the meet.
In the 400MR, current bests are
Cal    3:28.33! (50.85!, 1:00.40, 50.25, 46.83) B team swimmers weren't faster
Stanford 3:29.63Â (Howe 51.45, Williams 1:00.69, Hu 50.22, Manuel 47.27), (Poppe was on the B team with a 1:00.20)
Texas  3:29.77 (51.08, 59.58, 51.95, 47.54)Â
Virginia 3:29.92 (52.86, 58.07!, 50.87, 48.12)
Arizona 3:30.26
Georgia 3:30.34 (51.50, 1:00.07, 51.68, 46.09!)
I wondered about that relatively slow 47.27 by Simone until I realized we won the event by a very big margin, so she had no reason to push it.
01-12-2017, 06:16 PM
Only 1/3 of the way through, but the gap between Stanford (#1) and UCLA (#2) is bigger than the gap between UCLA (#2) and Louisville (#21)...
Final Fall standings (released today, Jan 12):
1. Stanford 504.50
2. UCLA 348
3. North Carolina 345
4. Wisconsin 324
5. BYU 312.50
6. Michigan 297.50
7. Penn State 293
8. Under Stanford Control (again) 290
9. Washington 281.50
10. Colorado 268.50
...
21. Louisville 195
Final Fall standings (released today, Jan 12):
1. Stanford 504.50
2. UCLA 348
3. North Carolina 345
4. Wisconsin 324
5. BYU 312.50
6. Michigan 297.50
7. Penn State 293
8. Under Stanford Control (again) 290
9. Washington 281.50
10. Colorado 268.50
...
21. Louisville 195
Only 1/3 of the way through, but the gap between Stanford (#1) and UCLA (#2) is bigger than the gap between UCLA (#2) and Louisville (#21)...
Final Fall standings (released today, Jan 12):
1. Stanford 504.50
2. UCLA 348
3. North Carolina 345
4. Wisconsin 324
5. BYU 312.50
6. Michigan 297.50
7. Penn State 293
8. Under Stanford Control (again) 290
9. Washington 281.50
10. Colorado 268.50
...
21. Louisville 195
Final Fall standings (released today, Jan 12):
1. Stanford 504.50
2. UCLA 348
3. North Carolina 345
4. Wisconsin 324
5. BYU 312.50
6. Michigan 297.50
7. Penn State 293
8. Under Stanford Control (again) 290
9. Washington 281.50
10. Colorado 268.50
...
21. Louisville 195
03-19-2017, 04:53 PM
First Winter standings to be released on 3/23.
My unofficial tracking shows the Cardinal now with 744.25 points:
504.5 for Official Fall total.
100 for Women's Swimming and Diving National Championship.
66.75 for WITF finishing tied for 10th.
50 for Wrestling finishing 24th.
23 for MITF finishing in five-way tie for 49th.
Geaux Cardinal!
My unofficial tracking shows the Cardinal now with 744.25 points:
504.5 for Official Fall total.
100 for Women's Swimming and Diving National Championship.
66.75 for WITF finishing tied for 10th.
50 for Wrestling finishing 24th.
23 for MITF finishing in five-way tie for 49th.
Geaux Cardinal!
First Winter standings to be released on 3/23.
My unofficial tracking shows the Cardinal now with 744.25 points:
504.5 for Official Fall total.
100 for Women's Swimming and Diving National Championship.
66.75 for WITF finishing tied for 10th.
50 for Wrestling finishing 24th.
23 for MITF finishing in five-way tie for 49th.
Geaux Cardinal!
My unofficial tracking shows the Cardinal now with 744.25 points:
504.5 for Official Fall total.
100 for Women's Swimming and Diving National Championship.
66.75 for WITF finishing tied for 10th.
50 for Wrestling finishing 24th.
23 for MITF finishing in five-way tie for 49th.
Geaux Cardinal!
03-19-2017, 06:18 PM
(01-10-2017, 07:23 PM)BobK link Wrote:Trump the women's swimming team ....
I don't even want to think about what this means.
(01-10-2017, 07:23 PM)BobK link Wrote:Trump the women's swimming team ....
I don't even want to think about what this means.
03-19-2017, 07:09 PM
(03-19-2017, 06:18 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:[quote author=BobK link=topic=16426.msg185905#msg185905 date=1484101433]
Trump the women's swimming team ....
I don't even want to think about what this means.
[/quote]
He was addressing Trumpcard. Perhaps another good example of where a missed comma makes a brobdingnagian (or is that yuuuuuge?) difference.
BC
(03-19-2017, 06:18 PM)CowboyIndian link Wrote:[quote author=BobK link=topic=16426.msg185905#msg185905 date=1484101433]
Trump the women's swimming team ....
I don't even want to think about what this means.
[/quote]
He was addressing Trumpcard. Perhaps another good example of where a missed comma makes a brobdingnagian (or is that yuuuuuge?) difference.
BC
03-19-2017, 08:24 PM
And I thought WITF was WTF. So much room for misunderstanding! ð
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03-19-2017, 09:06 PM
How does our point total compare to the field historically? (And here's hoping for more WBK points!)
03-20-2017, 07:15 AM
(03-19-2017, 09:06 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:How does our point total compare to the field historically? (And here's hoping for more WBK points!)
I don't track points for other schools, but Stanford teams year-to-date are collectively 8.5 points behind their score last year. The largest improvement is Women's Volleyball which improved by 50 points. On the other hand, Men's Indoor Track and Field earned 46.75 fewer Cup points than last year.
Geaux Cardinal!
(03-19-2017, 09:06 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:How does our point total compare to the field historically? (And here's hoping for more WBK points!)
I don't track points for other schools, but Stanford teams year-to-date are collectively 8.5 points behind their score last year. The largest improvement is Women's Volleyball which improved by 50 points. On the other hand, Men's Indoor Track and Field earned 46.75 fewer Cup points than last year.
Geaux Cardinal!
03-20-2017, 08:04 AM
Stanford will be in a solid zone with various tallies likely to be excluded when Stanford hits the maximum allotment. The tally will likely be untouchable by other programs.
UCLA, UNC, Texas, USC, Florida and other frequent top 5 programs need almost everything to go well to reach the typical Stanford total. It is a bit early to assess where the others are likely to finish, but most of the traditional top 10 schools have already posted at least a few sub-par results.
UCLA, UNC, Texas, USC, Florida and other frequent top 5 programs need almost everything to go well to reach the typical Stanford total. It is a bit early to assess where the others are likely to finish, but most of the traditional top 10 schools have already posted at least a few sub-par results.
Stanford will be in a solid zone with various tallies likely to be excluded when Stanford hits the maximum allotment. The tally will likely be untouchable by other programs.
UCLA, UNC, Texas, USC, Florida and other frequent top 5 programs need almost everything to go well to reach the typical Stanford total. It is a bit early to assess where the others are likely to finish, but most of the traditional top 10 schools have already posted at least a few sub-par results.
UCLA, UNC, Texas, USC, Florida and other frequent top 5 programs need almost everything to go well to reach the typical Stanford total. It is a bit early to assess where the others are likely to finish, but most of the traditional top 10 schools have already posted at least a few sub-par results.
03-23-2017, 10:36 AM
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First Winter standings released today: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacd...verall.pdf
Top 5
1 Stanford 744.25
2 Wisconsin 572.00
3 Michigan 540.25
4 Penn State 532.75
5 U_S_CÂ 492.00
Geaux Cardinal!
Top 5
1 Stanford 744.25
2 Wisconsin 572.00
3 Michigan 540.25
4 Penn State 532.75
5 U_S_CÂ 492.00
Geaux Cardinal!
(This post was last modified: 03-23-2017, 10:37 AM by BigEasyCard.)
First Winter standings released today: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nacd...verall.pdf
Top 5
1 Stanford 744.25
2 Wisconsin 572.00
3 Michigan 540.25
4 Penn State 532.75
5 U_S_CÂ 492.00
Geaux Cardinal!
Top 5
1 Stanford 744.25
2 Wisconsin 572.00
3 Michigan 540.25
4 Penn State 532.75
5 U_S_CÂ 492.00
Geaux Cardinal!
03-26-2017, 03:34 AM
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Stanford Men's Swimming finish fifth and earn 75 Cup points. Unofficial total now at 819.25 which is 5 points ahead of last year's total for the twelve included sports.
Fencing, Women's Basketball, and both Gymnastics teams will add to the total for Winter quarter.
Geaux Cardinal!
Fencing, Women's Basketball, and both Gymnastics teams will add to the total for Winter quarter.
Geaux Cardinal!
(This post was last modified: 03-26-2017, 04:14 AM by BigEasyCard.)
Stanford Men's Swimming finish fifth and earn 75 Cup points. Unofficial total now at 819.25 which is 5 points ahead of last year's total for the twelve included sports.
Fencing, Women's Basketball, and both Gymnastics teams will add to the total for Winter quarter.
Geaux Cardinal!
Fencing, Women's Basketball, and both Gymnastics teams will add to the total for Winter quarter.
Geaux Cardinal!
03-26-2017, 11:50 AM
Fencing earns 60 Cup points for a 10th place finish, bringing the total to 879.25.
Fencing is a combined Men's and Women's competition and we can count the points as one of the ten scoring sports for either gender.
Geaux Cardinal!
Fencing is a combined Men's and Women's competition and we can count the points as one of the ten scoring sports for either gender.
Geaux Cardinal!
Fencing earns 60 Cup points for a 10th place finish, bringing the total to 879.25.
Fencing is a combined Men's and Women's competition and we can count the points as one of the ten scoring sports for either gender.
Geaux Cardinal!
Fencing is a combined Men's and Women's competition and we can count the points as one of the ten scoring sports for either gender.
Geaux Cardinal!
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