03-31-2017, 02:27 AM
An article on the relationship between Staley and Vanderveer.
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-baske...final-four
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-baske...final-four
WBB: South Carolina 62 Stanford 53
An article on the relationship between Staley and Vanderveer.
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-baske...final-four
http://www.espn.com/womens-college-baske...final-four
03-31-2017, 08:55 AM
(03-29-2017, 06:48 PM)BobK link Wrote:Lots here and read down t see Brit's award. The highest GPA of the F4 teams
http://www.gostanford.com/news/2017/3/29...Day-1.aspx
3.73 in humbio is legit. Yet another model (pardon the pun) student-athlete produced by Stanford.
(03-29-2017, 06:48 PM)BobK link Wrote:Lots here and read down t see Brit's award. The highest GPA of the F4 teams
http://www.gostanford.com/news/2017/3/29...Day-1.aspx
3.73 in humbio is legit. Yet another model (pardon the pun) student-athlete produced by Stanford.
03-31-2017, 10:56 AM
In 1972, when the gender equity law known as Title IX was enacted, women were head coaches of more than 90 percent of womens college teams across two dozen sports. Now that number has decreased to about 40 percent.
I want to think sexism is too simple of an answer, but what is it if its not that? said VanDerveer, the only woman besides Pat Summitt to have won 1,000 career games in Division I. Anytime someone hires a male coach and says, Coaching is coaching, well, why arent more women in mens basketball?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sport...v=top-news
I want to think sexism is too simple of an answer, but what is it if its not that? said VanDerveer, the only woman besides Pat Summitt to have won 1,000 career games in Division I. Anytime someone hires a male coach and says, Coaching is coaching, well, why arent more women in mens basketball?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sport...v=top-news
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
In 1972, when the gender equity law known as Title IX was enacted, women were head coaches of more than 90 percent of womens college teams across two dozen sports. Now that number has decreased to about 40 percent.
I want to think sexism is too simple of an answer, but what is it if its not that? said VanDerveer, the only woman besides Pat Summitt to have won 1,000 career games in Division I. Anytime someone hires a male coach and says, Coaching is coaching, well, why arent more women in mens basketball?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sport...v=top-news
I want to think sexism is too simple of an answer, but what is it if its not that? said VanDerveer, the only woman besides Pat Summitt to have won 1,000 career games in Division I. Anytime someone hires a male coach and says, Coaching is coaching, well, why arent more women in mens basketball?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/sport...v=top-news
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
03-31-2017, 11:37 AM
(03-29-2017, 08:11 PM)81alum link Wrote:I have a hunch we will see a lot more of Bri on Friday, since we need her defense on Gray. It would be wonderful if she could get some scoring going too.
I haven't seen much of Bri's defense but I think McPhee is our toughest and most disruptive defender. Probably won't be just one person on Gray all game but I look forward to McPhee getting in Gray's head and roughing her up a little bit along the way.
(03-29-2017, 08:11 PM)81alum link Wrote:I have a hunch we will see a lot more of Bri on Friday, since we need her defense on Gray. It would be wonderful if she could get some scoring going too.
I haven't seen much of Bri's defense but I think McPhee is our toughest and most disruptive defender. Probably won't be just one person on Gray all game but I look forward to McPhee getting in Gray's head and roughing her up a little bit along the way.
03-31-2017, 04:58 PM
We are down 12-14 after one quarter.
Biggest takeaway from the first 10 is Wilson's effect on the game. Smith and McCall missed a couple layups I think because of Wilson's presence in the paint; they just couldn't get it past her or was afraid to.
Also, it seemed like we were pretty nervous on the offensive end. Hopefully, we will shake them off going forward.
Biggest takeaway from the first 10 is Wilson's effect on the game. Smith and McCall missed a couple layups I think because of Wilson's presence in the paint; they just couldn't get it past her or was afraid to.
Also, it seemed like we were pretty nervous on the offensive end. Hopefully, we will shake them off going forward.
We are down 12-14 after one quarter.
Biggest takeaway from the first 10 is Wilson's effect on the game. Smith and McCall missed a couple layups I think because of Wilson's presence in the paint; they just couldn't get it past her or was afraid to.
Also, it seemed like we were pretty nervous on the offensive end. Hopefully, we will shake them off going forward.
Biggest takeaway from the first 10 is Wilson's effect on the game. Smith and McCall missed a couple layups I think because of Wilson's presence in the paint; they just couldn't get it past her or was afraid to.
Also, it seemed like we were pretty nervous on the offensive end. Hopefully, we will shake them off going forward.
03-31-2017, 05:15 PM
Very worrisome. Karlie Samuelson injured as she steps on Cuevas-Moore's foot and had to be helped off the floor. Though ESPN's Holly Rowe said she was able to put some weight on it
03-31-2017, 05:16 PM
(03-31-2017, 05:15 PM)TheFarm07 link Wrote:Very worrisome. Karlie Samuelson injured as she steps on Cuevas-Moore's foot and had to be helped off the floor. Though ESPN's Holly Rowe said she was able to put some weight on it
And in the meantime, we've jumped to a 27-19 lead, so other than that a very good quarter thus far.
(03-31-2017, 05:15 PM)TheFarm07 link Wrote:Very worrisome. Karlie Samuelson injured as she steps on Cuevas-Moore's foot and had to be helped off the floor. Though ESPN's Holly Rowe said she was able to put some weight on it
And in the meantime, we've jumped to a 27-19 lead, so other than that a very good quarter thus far.
We lead 29-20 at the half.
Biggest storylines are our defense and Karlie's injury.
We have held S.C. to just 6 points in the 2nd quarter and only 2 made field goals I believe. Let's see if we can continue that.
Unfortunately, we are without Karlie's services. Erica had to help her off the court, but if Rowe's report that she was able to put weight on it in the tunnel is a promising sign, then we can hope that she just tweaked it and she can come back, if not for the second half, for the title game, if we win.
Beyond that, both Smith and Sniezek have 2 fouls each. Without Karlie, we are not as deep. I wonder if Carrington will see minutes in the second half.
Biggest storylines are our defense and Karlie's injury.
We have held S.C. to just 6 points in the 2nd quarter and only 2 made field goals I believe. Let's see if we can continue that.
Unfortunately, we are without Karlie's services. Erica had to help her off the court, but if Rowe's report that she was able to put weight on it in the tunnel is a promising sign, then we can hope that she just tweaked it and she can come back, if not for the second half, for the title game, if we win.
Beyond that, both Smith and Sniezek have 2 fouls each. Without Karlie, we are not as deep. I wonder if Carrington will see minutes in the second half.
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We lead 29-20 at the half.
Biggest storylines are our defense and Karlie's injury.
We have held S.C. to just 6 points in the 2nd quarter and only 2 made field goals I believe. Let's see if we can continue that.
Unfortunately, we are without Karlie's services. Erica had to help her off the court, but if Rowe's report that she was able to put weight on it in the tunnel is a promising sign, then we can hope that she just tweaked it and she can come back, if not for the second half, for the title game, if we win.
Beyond that, both Smith and Sniezek have 2 fouls each. Without Karlie, we are not as deep. I wonder if Carrington will see minutes in the second half.
Biggest storylines are our defense and Karlie's injury.
We have held S.C. to just 6 points in the 2nd quarter and only 2 made field goals I believe. Let's see if we can continue that.
Unfortunately, we are without Karlie's services. Erica had to help her off the court, but if Rowe's report that she was able to put weight on it in the tunnel is a promising sign, then we can hope that she just tweaked it and she can come back, if not for the second half, for the title game, if we win.
Beyond that, both Smith and Sniezek have 2 fouls each. Without Karlie, we are not as deep. I wonder if Carrington will see minutes in the second half.
03-31-2017, 06:02 PM
We are down 37-41 after 3 quarters as our offense stagnated and South Carolina picked up the pace on their end.
Karlie tried going out to play at the beginning of the 2nd half, but you could tell that the ankle was bothering her and she was grimacing around the court. Her mobility was clearly hampered and she was quickly yanked. She came back in at the end of the quarter, but she is not 100% and with a defender clearly attached to her, she cannot get free for an open look at the basket.
Meanwhile, South Carolina went on a run and Alanna picked up her 3rd foul early on, forcing her to the bench. The injury to Karlie and the foul trouble of Alanna has forced Tara to go with a lineup of Bri, Marta, Brit, Erica and Kaylee with Nadia in there. Clearly, those substitutes are not as explosive offensively as Karlie and Alanna are and that has hurt our offense.
Plus it doesn't help that we are missing layups (and second and third chance opportunities) as South Carolina has gone on a 11-0 run. We were able to make a couple layups at the end of the quarter (I was half expecting us to miss), but South Carolina got an offensive rebound at the end to push the lead back up to 4.
Can our defense contain them in the fourth? A'ja Wilson went to the bench in pain, which looked like something with her face or eyes, late in the 3rd.
This is "CODE RED" time for the Cardinal. We need to score; we can't depend on South Carolina to drop off; they have too many threats.
Karlie tried going out to play at the beginning of the 2nd half, but you could tell that the ankle was bothering her and she was grimacing around the court. Her mobility was clearly hampered and she was quickly yanked. She came back in at the end of the quarter, but she is not 100% and with a defender clearly attached to her, she cannot get free for an open look at the basket.
Meanwhile, South Carolina went on a run and Alanna picked up her 3rd foul early on, forcing her to the bench. The injury to Karlie and the foul trouble of Alanna has forced Tara to go with a lineup of Bri, Marta, Brit, Erica and Kaylee with Nadia in there. Clearly, those substitutes are not as explosive offensively as Karlie and Alanna are and that has hurt our offense.
Plus it doesn't help that we are missing layups (and second and third chance opportunities) as South Carolina has gone on a 11-0 run. We were able to make a couple layups at the end of the quarter (I was half expecting us to miss), but South Carolina got an offensive rebound at the end to push the lead back up to 4.
Can our defense contain them in the fourth? A'ja Wilson went to the bench in pain, which looked like something with her face or eyes, late in the 3rd.
This is "CODE RED" time for the Cardinal. We need to score; we can't depend on South Carolina to drop off; they have too many threats.
We are down 37-41 after 3 quarters as our offense stagnated and South Carolina picked up the pace on their end.
Karlie tried going out to play at the beginning of the 2nd half, but you could tell that the ankle was bothering her and she was grimacing around the court. Her mobility was clearly hampered and she was quickly yanked. She came back in at the end of the quarter, but she is not 100% and with a defender clearly attached to her, she cannot get free for an open look at the basket.
Meanwhile, South Carolina went on a run and Alanna picked up her 3rd foul early on, forcing her to the bench. The injury to Karlie and the foul trouble of Alanna has forced Tara to go with a lineup of Bri, Marta, Brit, Erica and Kaylee with Nadia in there. Clearly, those substitutes are not as explosive offensively as Karlie and Alanna are and that has hurt our offense.
Plus it doesn't help that we are missing layups (and second and third chance opportunities) as South Carolina has gone on a 11-0 run. We were able to make a couple layups at the end of the quarter (I was half expecting us to miss), but South Carolina got an offensive rebound at the end to push the lead back up to 4.
Can our defense contain them in the fourth? A'ja Wilson went to the bench in pain, which looked like something with her face or eyes, late in the 3rd.
This is "CODE RED" time for the Cardinal. We need to score; we can't depend on South Carolina to drop off; they have too many threats.
Karlie tried going out to play at the beginning of the 2nd half, but you could tell that the ankle was bothering her and she was grimacing around the court. Her mobility was clearly hampered and she was quickly yanked. She came back in at the end of the quarter, but she is not 100% and with a defender clearly attached to her, she cannot get free for an open look at the basket.
Meanwhile, South Carolina went on a run and Alanna picked up her 3rd foul early on, forcing her to the bench. The injury to Karlie and the foul trouble of Alanna has forced Tara to go with a lineup of Bri, Marta, Brit, Erica and Kaylee with Nadia in there. Clearly, those substitutes are not as explosive offensively as Karlie and Alanna are and that has hurt our offense.
Plus it doesn't help that we are missing layups (and second and third chance opportunities) as South Carolina has gone on a 11-0 run. We were able to make a couple layups at the end of the quarter (I was half expecting us to miss), but South Carolina got an offensive rebound at the end to push the lead back up to 4.
Can our defense contain them in the fourth? A'ja Wilson went to the bench in pain, which looked like something with her face or eyes, late in the 3rd.
This is "CODE RED" time for the Cardinal. We need to score; we can't depend on South Carolina to drop off; they have too many threats.
Our offense just seemed really stagnant and slow throughout the game. The crisp decision-making was not there.
It sucks that in our last 5 Final Four games, we've held a first time lead in all of them (tonight, '14 vs. UConn, '12 vs. Baylor, '11 vs. Texas A&M--10-pt lead with 5 to go and '10 vs. UConn) and we could not close the deal on any of them. I know it's ironic to say with all the comebacks we've had this year, but in these big games, our offense and defense could not maintain it for 40 minutes.
In those five games, we were +15 in pt differential in the first half, but an alarming -56 in the second half
It sucks that in our last 5 Final Four games, we've held a first time lead in all of them (tonight, '14 vs. UConn, '12 vs. Baylor, '11 vs. Texas A&M--10-pt lead with 5 to go and '10 vs. UConn) and we could not close the deal on any of them. I know it's ironic to say with all the comebacks we've had this year, but in these big games, our offense and defense could not maintain it for 40 minutes.
In those five games, we were +15 in pt differential in the first half, but an alarming -56 in the second half
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Our offense just seemed really stagnant and slow throughout the game. The crisp decision-making was not there.
It sucks that in our last 5 Final Four games, we've held a first time lead in all of them (tonight, '14 vs. UConn, '12 vs. Baylor, '11 vs. Texas A&M--10-pt lead with 5 to go and '10 vs. UConn) and we could not close the deal on any of them. I know it's ironic to say with all the comebacks we've had this year, but in these big games, our offense and defense could not maintain it for 40 minutes.
In those five games, we were +15 in pt differential in the first half, but an alarming -56 in the second half
It sucks that in our last 5 Final Four games, we've held a first time lead in all of them (tonight, '14 vs. UConn, '12 vs. Baylor, '11 vs. Texas A&M--10-pt lead with 5 to go and '10 vs. UConn) and we could not close the deal on any of them. I know it's ironic to say with all the comebacks we've had this year, but in these big games, our offense and defense could not maintain it for 40 minutes.
In those five games, we were +15 in pt differential in the first half, but an alarming -56 in the second half
03-31-2017, 06:28 PM
What could have been if Karlie didn't get injured?
This team showed so much heart during this run. It will be sad to see the seniors go. I hope our returning players will work to expand and improve their games over the summer and have an even better 2017-18 season.
This team showed so much heart during this run. It will be sad to see the seniors go. I hope our returning players will work to expand and improve their games over the summer and have an even better 2017-18 season.
What could have been if Karlie didn't get injured?
This team showed so much heart during this run. It will be sad to see the seniors go. I hope our returning players will work to expand and improve their games over the summer and have an even better 2017-18 season.
This team showed so much heart during this run. It will be sad to see the seniors go. I hope our returning players will work to expand and improve their games over the summer and have an even better 2017-18 season.
03-31-2017, 06:29 PM
Good bye, Karlie, Erica, and Bri. The three of you have given us fans so many exciting moments and happy memories. At the start of this season we never would have predicted that we would get back to the final four this year, and the three of you willed us there, with your grit and your sisterhood-of-all-teammates. We shall miss you. Good luck on your next life projects!
Good bye, Karlie, Erica, and Bri. The three of you have given us fans so many exciting moments and happy memories. At the start of this season we never would have predicted that we would get back to the final four this year, and the three of you willed us there, with your grit and your sisterhood-of-all-teammates. We shall miss you. Good luck on your next life projects!
03-31-2017, 06:30 PM
Final 53-62 Gamecocks.
Stanford couldn't keep up when South Carolina pushed the pace in the second half. Also, shots that fell for our team in the second quarter fell mostly short in the third and fourth. It's difficult to shoot your way out of a slump with your best shooter on the bench nursing a bum ankle.
Stanford couldn't keep up when South Carolina pushed the pace in the second half. Also, shots that fell for our team in the second quarter fell mostly short in the third and fourth. It's difficult to shoot your way out of a slump with your best shooter on the bench nursing a bum ankle.
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
Final 53-62 Gamecocks.
Stanford couldn't keep up when South Carolina pushed the pace in the second half. Also, shots that fell for our team in the second quarter fell mostly short in the third and fourth. It's difficult to shoot your way out of a slump with your best shooter on the bench nursing a bum ankle.
Stanford couldn't keep up when South Carolina pushed the pace in the second half. Also, shots that fell for our team in the second quarter fell mostly short in the third and fourth. It's difficult to shoot your way out of a slump with your best shooter on the bench nursing a bum ankle.
In 1938 Neville Chamberlain declared "Peace in our time", Superman first appeared in Action Comics, Seabiscuit beat War Admiral ....... and C.a.l last won the Rose Bowl.
03-31-2017, 06:30 PM
Good run without a truly great player this year. Way too many turnovers. Don't watch a lot of women's basketball but it seems like they can build around Smith next year. She has inside and outside skills. Also don't know about who is coming in but they need more athleticism in the backcourt. Was disappointed in McCall who basically had no effect on offense. Nothing to be sad about. Hope Geno gets food poisoning and the team falls apart. Go Cocks!
Good run without a truly great player this year. Way too many turnovers. Don't watch a lot of women's basketball but it seems like they can build around Smith next year. She has inside and outside skills. Also don't know about who is coming in but they need more athleticism in the backcourt. Was disappointed in McCall who basically had no effect on offense. Nothing to be sad about. Hope Geno gets food poisoning and the team falls apart. Go Cocks!
03-31-2017, 06:32 PM
With Karlie out I thought we might move Alanna out to 3 pt line at start of 4th quarter - at least give us a viable threat
03-31-2017, 06:37 PM
Beyond Karlie's obvious contributions as a shooter, it seemed like our offense was overly cautious and unsure. When we made the comeback against N.D., we were confident and shooting and driving without hesitation.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
Beyond Karlie's obvious contributions as a shooter, it seemed like our offense was overly cautious and unsure. When we made the comeback against N.D., we were confident and shooting and driving without hesitation.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
03-31-2017, 06:52 PM
(03-31-2017, 06:37 PM)TheFarm07 link Wrote:Beyond Karlie's obvious contributions as a shooter, it seemed like our offense was overly cautious and unsure. When we made the comeback against N.D., we were confident and shooting and driving without hesitation.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
With Karlie's injury, you not only miss her shooting but also her basketball smarts - that had to hurt in such a big game. The Gamecock defenders were able to clamp down on Erica and Britt - only Alanna seemed to get anything going in the second half. Too bad we weren't able to compete at full strength for last 24 minutes. Still, it's been a great season. Grit and playing for one another got the seniors back to another Final Four. Proud of what the team accomplished this year.
(03-31-2017, 06:37 PM)TheFarm07 link Wrote:Beyond Karlie's obvious contributions as a shooter, it seemed like our offense was overly cautious and unsure. When we made the comeback against N.D., we were confident and shooting and driving without hesitation.
But tonight, the problem that plagued us throughout the season, even in our wins, came back as that confidence and self-assuredness seemed to evaporate so easily. We were reluctant to shoot, we were reluctant to drive.
With Karlie's injury, you not only miss her shooting but also her basketball smarts - that had to hurt in such a big game. The Gamecock defenders were able to clamp down on Erica and Britt - only Alanna seemed to get anything going in the second half. Too bad we weren't able to compete at full strength for last 24 minutes. Still, it's been a great season. Grit and playing for one another got the seniors back to another Final Four. Proud of what the team accomplished this year.
03-31-2017, 07:02 PM
Great game and great season all around, coming on strong in the Pac-12 tournament and fighting through the travel and extended trip away from campus in the NCAA tournament. I would not have predicted a Final Four appearance for this team at the beginning of the season.
It's too bad that Karlie got hurt. I was really wanting to see a matchup with Katie Lou in the finals. I'm not a hall of fame coach, but it seemed to me like Tara left Karlie in the game too long. She was obviously uncomfortable and didn't have much of an impact on the game. She was too slow on defense and I'm not sure she attempted a shot until the waning moments of the 4th quarter. On the other hand she's a smart basketball player and you gotta go with the seniors that got you here even if they are not 100%. South Carolina was able to pack in the defense and dare us to shoot from long range. We hit some shots but not enough to close the gap.
It's too bad that Karlie got hurt. I was really wanting to see a matchup with Katie Lou in the finals. I'm not a hall of fame coach, but it seemed to me like Tara left Karlie in the game too long. She was obviously uncomfortable and didn't have much of an impact on the game. She was too slow on defense and I'm not sure she attempted a shot until the waning moments of the 4th quarter. On the other hand she's a smart basketball player and you gotta go with the seniors that got you here even if they are not 100%. South Carolina was able to pack in the defense and dare us to shoot from long range. We hit some shots but not enough to close the gap.
Great game and great season all around, coming on strong in the Pac-12 tournament and fighting through the travel and extended trip away from campus in the NCAA tournament. I would not have predicted a Final Four appearance for this team at the beginning of the season.
It's too bad that Karlie got hurt. I was really wanting to see a matchup with Katie Lou in the finals. I'm not a hall of fame coach, but it seemed to me like Tara left Karlie in the game too long. She was obviously uncomfortable and didn't have much of an impact on the game. She was too slow on defense and I'm not sure she attempted a shot until the waning moments of the 4th quarter. On the other hand she's a smart basketball player and you gotta go with the seniors that got you here even if they are not 100%. South Carolina was able to pack in the defense and dare us to shoot from long range. We hit some shots but not enough to close the gap.
It's too bad that Karlie got hurt. I was really wanting to see a matchup with Katie Lou in the finals. I'm not a hall of fame coach, but it seemed to me like Tara left Karlie in the game too long. She was obviously uncomfortable and didn't have much of an impact on the game. She was too slow on defense and I'm not sure she attempted a shot until the waning moments of the 4th quarter. On the other hand she's a smart basketball player and you gotta go with the seniors that got you here even if they are not 100%. South Carolina was able to pack in the defense and dare us to shoot from long range. We hit some shots but not enough to close the gap.
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