[Goose]

[quote author=pcgoode link=topic=17737.msg207301#msg207301 date=1508631672]
Haven’t been very impressed with Votre Dame’s qb. He is very inaccurate.

Yes, but he's a great runner. N.D. will gash Stanford at will on the ground. Best case scenario is a shootout.
[/quote]

The matchup with Norte dame scares me.  Unless our run defense shows some progress, will be a long night

I am not so sold that ND is really great on the ground. They certainly have talent, and are good (at least), but USC has 3 turnovers. USC has also been forced to make big changes on defense due to injuries. That leads to people being out of position. USC also isn't exactly known for great discipline on defense at the best of times. I think we will give up some yards to ND, maybe big yards, but our "Bend but don't Break" or "Rope-a-Dope" might work pretty well on them. That said, progress from DL people that don't wear 66 would be very welcome!

[Goose]

[quote author=pcgoode link=topic=17737.msg207301#msg207301 date=1508631672]
Haven’t been very impressed with Votre Dame’s qb. He is very inaccurate.

Yes, but he's a great runner. N.D. will gash Stanford at will on the ground. Best case scenario is a shootout.
[/quote]

The matchup with Norte dame scares me.  Unless our run defense shows some progress, will be a long night

I am not so sold that ND is really great on the ground. They certainly have talent, and are good (at least), but USC has 3 turnovers. USC has also been forced to make big changes on defense due to injuries. That leads to people being out of position. USC also isn't exactly known for great discipline on defense at the best of times. I think we will give up some yards to ND, maybe big yards, but our "Bend but don't Break" or "Rope-a-Dope" might work pretty well on them. That said, progress from DL people that don't wear 66 would be very welcome!

[martyup]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

[martyup]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

[Goose]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

Real question is, will they fall below us? I would argue they should, as they are clearly not as good as they were in week 2. Probably won't happen though.

[Goose]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

Real question is, will they fall below us? I would argue they should, as they are clearly not as good as they were in week 2. Probably won't happen though.

[PalmTree]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

.....a lot....back to PSU/Michigan. ...

[PalmTree]

I wonder how far the Toejams will fall in the rankings after this embarrassment  against ND.

.....a lot....back to PSU/Michigan. ...

[CornFed]

Barkley w/ a mere 8 YPC.  How pedestrian!

[CornFed]

Barkley w/ a mere 8 YPC.  How pedestrian!

[BostonCard]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

[BostonCard]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

[OutsiderFan]

ND has 358 yds rushing and is averaging 9 YPC.  They are a great rushing team. 

[OutsiderFan]

ND has 358 yds rushing and is averaging 9 YPC.  They are a great rushing team. 

[stupac2]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Yeah and then he catches a long TD pass. I was really hoping Michigan would shut him down but that clearly isn't happening.

Although I still don't understand why he gets the Voldemort hype and not McSorley, from what I've seen of PSU Barkley is pretty replaceable, McSorley isn't.

[stupac2]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Yeah and then he catches a long TD pass. I was really hoping Michigan would shut him down but that clearly isn't happening.

Although I still don't understand why he gets the Voldemort hype and not McSorley, from what I've seen of PSU Barkley is pretty replaceable, McSorley isn't.

[PalmTree]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Urrrgh....like it or not, after that reception - Advantage,  Barkely...

[PalmTree]

Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Urrrgh....like it or not, after that reception - Advantage,  Barkely...

[Redrum]

...Notre Dame will ummmm, 'have its way with us."  Gawd.  Purple face has put together a decent team that has forgotten how to underachieve.

[Redrum]

...Notre Dame will ummmm, 'have its way with us."  Gawd.  Purple face has put together a decent team that has forgotten how to underachieve.

[cardcrimson]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17737.msg207322#msg207322 date=1508638531]
Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Urrrgh....like it or not, after that reception - Advantage,  Barkely...
[/quote]
All purpose yards are irrelevant. Just ask Christen MacCaffery. . . .

[cardcrimson]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17737.msg207322#msg207322 date=1508638531]
Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Urrrgh....like it or not, after that reception - Advantage,  Barkely...
[/quote]
All purpose yards are irrelevant. Just ask Christen MacCaffery. . . .

[cardcrimson]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17737.msg207322#msg207322 date=1508638531]
Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Yeah and then he catches a long TD pass. I was really hoping Michigan would shut him down but that clearly isn't happening.

Although I still don't understand why he gets the    hype and not McSorley, from what I've seen of PSU Barkley is pretty replaceable, McSorley isn't.
[/quote]

Agree. McSorley seems pretty special. Great touch on the deep ball, great running ability, great reads of the defense. He's the best player on the team. Hamilton probably number 2

[cardcrimson]

[quote author=Boston Card link=topic=17737.msg207322#msg207322 date=1508638531]
Something like 22 yards on11 carries since the second series.

BC

Yeah and then he catches a long TD pass. I was really hoping Michigan would shut him down but that clearly isn't happening.

Although I still don't understand why he gets the    hype and not McSorley, from what I've seen of PSU Barkley is pretty replaceable, McSorley isn't.
[/quote]

Agree. McSorley seems pretty special. Great touch on the deep ball, great running ability, great reads of the defense. He's the best player on the team. Hamilton probably number 2

[CornFed]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

[CornFed]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

[stupac2]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

He needed a much worse game than that for Love to take over #1.

It's going to be really infuriating when Barkley wins because of his APY numbers when they end up worse than McCaffrey's and Love's better than Henry's.

[stupac2]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

He needed a much worse game than that for Love to take over #1.

It's going to be really infuriating when Barkley wins because of his APY numbers when they end up worse than McCaffrey's and Love's better than Henry's.

[dabigv13]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

Bryce Love has that sort of game by the end of the second series.

[dabigv13]

Ooh!  Barkley had 53 yds receiving and, holey mackerel, 15 yards on one KO return.  All to go w/ 108 yds rushing on 15 carries.  How can we hope that B Love can even compete w/ that kind of production?

Bryce Love has that sort of game by the end of the second series.

[CornFed]

If the unthinkable happens and Love wins, think how devastating it would be for Eastern/Southern establishment mavens. How many ballots will leave Love out of their voting entirely?  It would finally break down their manipulative control, even if just momentarily.  It would be great if Plunkett, Gerhart, Luck and McCaffrey could all be on the podium w/ him.

[CornFed]

If the unthinkable happens and Love wins, think how devastating it would be for Eastern/Southern establishment mavens. How many ballots will leave Love out of their voting entirely?  It would finally break down their manipulative control, even if just momentarily.  It would be great if Plunkett, Gerhart, Luck and McCaffrey could all be on the podium w/ him.

[North Woods]

Reminds me of philosophy:

If a Tree runs through a forest and no one is awake to see it, does it get any H trophy votes?

[North Woods]

Reminds me of philosophy:

If a Tree runs through a forest and no one is awake to see it, does it get any H trophy votes?

[TreesAndBirds]

Fresno St 17
SD State 3
Halftime

[TreesAndBirds]

Fresno St 17
SD State 3
Halftime

[OutsiderFan]

Cal and Arizona go to OT, play two, Cal loses by not converting 2pt conversion, 45-44.

Tough loss, but another example of how much better of a team they are under Wilcox than Dykes.

Don't look now, but Arizona, ASU, and USC all control their own destiny in the south.  I think Arizona may have the edge.

[OutsiderFan]

Cal and Arizona go to OT, play two, Cal loses by not converting 2pt conversion, 45-44.

Tough loss, but another example of how much better of a team they are under Wilcox than Dykes.

Don't look now, but Arizona, ASU, and USC all control their own destiny in the south.  I think Arizona may have the edge.

[Spiny_Norman]

Don't look now, but Arizona, ASU, and U$C all control their own destiny in the south.  I think Arizona may have the edge.

Pac 12 South is wide open. U.SC plays at ASU next week.  Arizona plays at WSU. 

[Spiny_Norman]

Don't look now, but Arizona, ASU, and U$C all control their own destiny in the south.  I think Arizona may have the edge.

Pac 12 South is wide open. U.SC plays at ASU next week.  Arizona plays at WSU.