07-10-2019, 04:51 PM
LOL boys. The Giants CAN'T develop a closer. Set up men maybe. I don't trust the guys who run the minor league pitching staff. These are the guys who traded Luis Castillo.
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07-10-2019, 05:52 PM
Smith had one save before coming to the Giants and makes $1.475 this year
This is a closer developed by the Giants
Lol got ya Phogge.
This is a closer developed by the Giants
Lol got ya Phogge.
07-11-2019, 12:49 AM
Bobbbb, this I saw why I used to beat you up in the bleachers. They signed Smith. Their system has miserably failed to develop a closer as advocated by the posting youngster.
07-11-2019, 08:49 AM
This is why I caught every HR. The Giants developed Smith. Agree not their farm state. But yes on the Giants
In any case 20 days to the trade deadline
In any case 20 days to the trade deadline
Next 7 are 3 in Milwaukee. 4 in Colorado. Including a DH. Heck, Pablo may pitch in game 2. If, as I suspect they go 2-5 or 1-6, the talk of “contending” ends.
Smith should be traded. He is at peak value. And a top flight closer on a second division team is wasted.
Now if I’m wrong and they go 6-1........
Smith should be traded. He is at peak value. And a top flight closer on a second division team is wasted.
Now if I’m wrong and they go 6-1........
Next 7 are 3 in Milwaukee. 4 in Colorado. Including a DH. Heck, Pablo may pitch in game 2. If, as I suspect they go 2-5 or 1-6, the talk of “contending” ends.
Smith should be traded. He is at peak value. And a top flight closer on a second division team is wasted.
Now if I’m wrong and they go 6-1........
Smith should be traded. He is at peak value. And a top flight closer on a second division team is wasted.
Now if I’m wrong and they go 6-1........
07-12-2019, 08:28 AM
Relievers drafted by Giants in the last 25 years:
300+ Saves:
Six-time All-Star, Joe Nathan. The one that got away.
200+ Saves
Brad Lidge, drafted in the same year as Joe Nathan. 225 saves, two all star teams.
100+ Saves
Keith Foulke, 191 saves
Brian Wilson. 176 saves
Sergio Romo. 120 saves
50 Saves:
Aardsma
Fowlke
300+ Saves:
Six-time All-Star, Joe Nathan. The one that got away.
200+ Saves
Brad Lidge, drafted in the same year as Joe Nathan. 225 saves, two all star teams.
100+ Saves
Keith Foulke, 191 saves
Brian Wilson. 176 saves
Sergio Romo. 120 saves
50 Saves:
Aardsma
Fowlke
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Relievers drafted by Giants in the last 25 years:
300+ Saves:
Six-time All-Star, Joe Nathan. The one that got away.
200+ Saves
Brad Lidge, drafted in the same year as Joe Nathan. 225 saves, two all star teams.
100+ Saves
Keith Foulke, 191 saves
Brian Wilson. 176 saves
Sergio Romo. 120 saves
50 Saves:
Aardsma
Fowlke
300+ Saves:
Six-time All-Star, Joe Nathan. The one that got away.
200+ Saves
Brad Lidge, drafted in the same year as Joe Nathan. 225 saves, two all star teams.
100+ Saves
Keith Foulke, 191 saves
Brian Wilson. 176 saves
Sergio Romo. 120 saves
50 Saves:
Aardsma
Fowlke
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Developed enough to win 3 World Series
Great story. Lots of questions to be answered soon and more after the season
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/10/s...tar-break/
Great story. Lots of questions to be answered soon and more after the season
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/10/s...tar-break/
Developed enough to win 3 World Series
Great story. Lots of questions to be answered soon and more after the season
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/10/s...tar-break/
Great story. Lots of questions to be answered soon and more after the season
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/10/s...tar-break/
07-12-2019, 06:38 PM
Stanford's own Austin Slater hammered a ball into an out in his first AB, hit opposite field home run in Milwaukee to tie the score at 2-2.
16 ABs, 3 HRs, for Mr. Slater.
16 ABs, 3 HRs, for Mr. Slater.
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07-12-2019, 11:37 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2019, 11:39 PM by pefloresjr.)
Gigantes only 4.5 out of wild card. Never say never.
Vamos Gigantes, Aguantase! (Name the year.)
Cheers,
Pete F.
Ps. I still think the Giants should trade everybody for whom they can get decent value. Buster found his power for the game winning grand slam tonight!
Vamos Gigantes, Aguantase! (Name the year.)
Cheers,
Pete F.
Ps. I still think the Giants should trade everybody for whom they can get decent value. Buster found his power for the game winning grand slam tonight!
(This post was last modified: 07-12-2019, 11:39 PM by pefloresjr.)
Gigantes only 4.5 out of wild card. Never say never.
Vamos Gigantes, Aguantase! (Name the year.)
Cheers,
Pete F.
Ps. I still think the Giants should trade everybody for whom they can get decent value. Buster found his power for the game winning grand slam tonight!
Vamos Gigantes, Aguantase! (Name the year.)
Cheers,
Pete F.
Ps. I still think the Giants should trade everybody for whom they can get decent value. Buster found his power for the game winning grand slam tonight!
07-12-2019, 11:53 PM
16-10 (.615) over the last 4 weeks.
If they play .600 ball for the next 4 weeks as well, they will break .500.
(Yawn). Wake me in mid-Aug if that happens.
If they play .600 ball for the next 4 weeks as well, they will break .500.
(Yawn). Wake me in mid-Aug if that happens.
07-13-2019, 04:27 AM
The Giants are entering a never before seen situation.
Usually by this time a team knows what it is and if it will be a buyer or seller at the trade deadline. When a seller, the value a trade can extract is pretty much determined by the quality of and how many suitors a team can find for its given trade assets. More demand equals higher price.
In the current case, with the Giants just 4.5 GB of wild card, and playing the best ball they have all season, the Giants are threatening to pass teams that might want their players. So the Giants not only have some valuable trade assets, they also get to drive up their asking price by adding a “buy us out of contending for a wild card spot with your team” premium to their demands.
There could be 8 NL teams who want Giants assets and are also feeling threatened by how well the Giants are now playing. It’s a fascinating dynamic I’ve never seen before. And by definition, if these NL teams want to ‘buy out” the Giants, that will drive up the prices for AL teams.
It’s all made even more interesting by the hard trade deadline in 18 days. My guess is Farhan won’t make any moves until that day because he has to push teams to their absolute limit. But in the end he doesn’t have to do anything if the Giants continue playing well enough to stay within 5 games of a wild card spot.
The winner of every negotiation must be willing to walk away. The Giants may not have the overwhelming talent/player control to trade for a prospect haul, but they very well could have the leverage.
Usually by this time a team knows what it is and if it will be a buyer or seller at the trade deadline. When a seller, the value a trade can extract is pretty much determined by the quality of and how many suitors a team can find for its given trade assets. More demand equals higher price.
In the current case, with the Giants just 4.5 GB of wild card, and playing the best ball they have all season, the Giants are threatening to pass teams that might want their players. So the Giants not only have some valuable trade assets, they also get to drive up their asking price by adding a “buy us out of contending for a wild card spot with your team” premium to their demands.
There could be 8 NL teams who want Giants assets and are also feeling threatened by how well the Giants are now playing. It’s a fascinating dynamic I’ve never seen before. And by definition, if these NL teams want to ‘buy out” the Giants, that will drive up the prices for AL teams.
It’s all made even more interesting by the hard trade deadline in 18 days. My guess is Farhan won’t make any moves until that day because he has to push teams to their absolute limit. But in the end he doesn’t have to do anything if the Giants continue playing well enough to stay within 5 games of a wild card spot.
The winner of every negotiation must be willing to walk away. The Giants may not have the overwhelming talent/player control to trade for a prospect haul, but they very well could have the leverage.
The Giants are entering a never before seen situation.
Usually by this time a team knows what it is and if it will be a buyer or seller at the trade deadline. When a seller, the value a trade can extract is pretty much determined by the quality of and how many suitors a team can find for its given trade assets. More demand equals higher price.
In the current case, with the Giants just 4.5 GB of wild card, and playing the best ball they have all season, the Giants are threatening to pass teams that might want their players. So the Giants not only have some valuable trade assets, they also get to drive up their asking price by adding a “buy us out of contending for a wild card spot with your team” premium to their demands.
There could be 8 NL teams who want Giants assets and are also feeling threatened by how well the Giants are now playing. It’s a fascinating dynamic I’ve never seen before. And by definition, if these NL teams want to ‘buy out” the Giants, that will drive up the prices for AL teams.
It’s all made even more interesting by the hard trade deadline in 18 days. My guess is Farhan won’t make any moves until that day because he has to push teams to their absolute limit. But in the end he doesn’t have to do anything if the Giants continue playing well enough to stay within 5 games of a wild card spot.
The winner of every negotiation must be willing to walk away. The Giants may not have the overwhelming talent/player control to trade for a prospect haul, but they very well could have the leverage.
Usually by this time a team knows what it is and if it will be a buyer or seller at the trade deadline. When a seller, the value a trade can extract is pretty much determined by the quality of and how many suitors a team can find for its given trade assets. More demand equals higher price.
In the current case, with the Giants just 4.5 GB of wild card, and playing the best ball they have all season, the Giants are threatening to pass teams that might want their players. So the Giants not only have some valuable trade assets, they also get to drive up their asking price by adding a “buy us out of contending for a wild card spot with your team” premium to their demands.
There could be 8 NL teams who want Giants assets and are also feeling threatened by how well the Giants are now playing. It’s a fascinating dynamic I’ve never seen before. And by definition, if these NL teams want to ‘buy out” the Giants, that will drive up the prices for AL teams.
It’s all made even more interesting by the hard trade deadline in 18 days. My guess is Farhan won’t make any moves until that day because he has to push teams to their absolute limit. But in the end he doesn’t have to do anything if the Giants continue playing well enough to stay within 5 games of a wild card spot.
The winner of every negotiation must be willing to walk away. The Giants may not have the overwhelming talent/player control to trade for a prospect haul, but they very well could have the leverage.
07-13-2019, 06:22 AM
Trading guys at this point is all about who you can get. They need people ready to play right now. Screw tanking and screw getting an organizations fourth or fifth prospect. If Bum deals in that bandbox and throttles the Brewers tonight go for it and play to win now. I don’t GAS about three years from now, I’m too old.
Trading guys at this point is all about who you can get. They need people ready to play right now. Screw tanking and screw getting an organizations fourth or fifth prospect. If Bum deals in that bandbox and throttles the Brewers tonight go for it and play to win now. I don’t GAS about three years from now, I’m too old.
Three interesting items.
1. Giants just went ahead against the Brewers, 2-1. Stanford's own Austin Slater hit a hard double into the gap to drive in Longoria. The Fox announcer (not sure who it is) says Slater reminds him of J. D. Martinez. Says last year he looked like a 1980s hitter, continually hitting down on the ball. Says he completely retooled his swing. Later had a two out single to keep a drive alive, then ran around to tie the score, 4-4. Slater now hitting .450, OPS of 1.650.
2. The Brewers went for a reliever against Panik, double switch to bring in lefty reliever. Hall-of-Fame-bound manager Bochy counters with Solarte (hitting .289, over 40% better than Panik). Solarte gets a single, leading to Slater. This is why Bochy (among many other moves) deserves Cooperstown.
3. Brought in Watson for the 7th, and Dyson for the 8th. Spanked, gave up three runs. Moronta had a shaky 9th. 5-4 loss, and chalk it up to the Giants' shaky bullpen.
1. Giants just went ahead against the Brewers, 2-1. Stanford's own Austin Slater hit a hard double into the gap to drive in Longoria. The Fox announcer (not sure who it is) says Slater reminds him of J. D. Martinez. Says last year he looked like a 1980s hitter, continually hitting down on the ball. Says he completely retooled his swing. Later had a two out single to keep a drive alive, then ran around to tie the score, 4-4. Slater now hitting .450, OPS of 1.650.
2. The Brewers went for a reliever against Panik, double switch to bring in lefty reliever. Hall-of-Fame-bound manager Bochy counters with Solarte (hitting .289, over 40% better than Panik). Solarte gets a single, leading to Slater. This is why Bochy (among many other moves) deserves Cooperstown.
3. Brought in Watson for the 7th, and Dyson for the 8th. Spanked, gave up three runs. Moronta had a shaky 9th. 5-4 loss, and chalk it up to the Giants' shaky bullpen.
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Three interesting items.
1. Giants just went ahead against the Brewers, 2-1. Stanford's own Austin Slater hit a hard double into the gap to drive in Longoria. The Fox announcer (not sure who it is) says Slater reminds him of J. D. Martinez. Says last year he looked like a 1980s hitter, continually hitting down on the ball. Says he completely retooled his swing. Later had a two out single to keep a drive alive, then ran around to tie the score, 4-4. Slater now hitting .450, OPS of 1.650.
2. The Brewers went for a reliever against Panik, double switch to bring in lefty reliever. Hall-of-Fame-bound manager Bochy counters with Solarte (hitting .289, over 40% better than Panik). Solarte gets a single, leading to Slater. This is why Bochy (among many other moves) deserves Cooperstown.
3. Brought in Watson for the 7th, and Dyson for the 8th. Spanked, gave up three runs. Moronta had a shaky 9th. 5-4 loss, and chalk it up to the Giants' shaky bullpen.
1. Giants just went ahead against the Brewers, 2-1. Stanford's own Austin Slater hit a hard double into the gap to drive in Longoria. The Fox announcer (not sure who it is) says Slater reminds him of J. D. Martinez. Says last year he looked like a 1980s hitter, continually hitting down on the ball. Says he completely retooled his swing. Later had a two out single to keep a drive alive, then ran around to tie the score, 4-4. Slater now hitting .450, OPS of 1.650.
2. The Brewers went for a reliever against Panik, double switch to bring in lefty reliever. Hall-of-Fame-bound manager Bochy counters with Solarte (hitting .289, over 40% better than Panik). Solarte gets a single, leading to Slater. This is why Bochy (among many other moves) deserves Cooperstown.
3. Brought in Watson for the 7th, and Dyson for the 8th. Spanked, gave up three runs. Moronta had a shaky 9th. 5-4 loss, and chalk it up to the Giants' shaky bullpen.
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The Giants lead the majors in HRs in July with 18. There are a host of teams with 16 and 17, but...who knew?
Also #2 in runs scored in July so far.
8-3 win today, record is 43-49. Giants are 4.5 back of the Phillies for the wild card, just four in the loss column.
Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
Also #2 in runs scored in July so far.
8-3 win today, record is 43-49. Giants are 4.5 back of the Phillies for the wild card, just four in the loss column.
Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
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The Giants lead the majors in HRs in July with 18. There are a host of teams with 16 and 17, but...who knew?
Also #2 in runs scored in July so far.
8-3 win today, record is 43-49. Giants are 4.5 back of the Phillies for the wild card, just four in the loss column.
Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
Also #2 in runs scored in July so far.
8-3 win today, record is 43-49. Giants are 4.5 back of the Phillies for the wild card, just four in the loss column.
Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
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07-15-2019, 01:25 PM
(07-14-2019, 01:18 PM)Mick Wrote: Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
To be fair, Slater was out of the starting lineup because he had a fever. But Longoria got hurt and Bochy had to switch around some players, inserting Slater in right. Bad time to get sick - today, the outfielders are 8 for 12 after 6 innings as the Giants are benefitting from playing at altitude.
(07-14-2019, 01:18 PM)Mick Wrote: Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
To be fair, Slater was out of the starting lineup because he had a fever. But Longoria got hurt and Bochy had to switch around some players, inserting Slater in right. Bad time to get sick - today, the outfielders are 8 for 12 after 6 innings as the Giants are benefitting from playing at altitude.
(07-15-2019, 01:25 PM)UltimateCard Wrote:(07-14-2019, 01:18 PM)Mick Wrote: Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
To be fair, Slater was out of the starting lineup because he had a fever. But Longoria got hurt and Bochy had to switch around some players, inserting Slater in right. Bad time to get sick - today, the outfielders are 8 for 12 after 6 innings as the Giants are benefitting from playing at altitude.
Giants lead 17-2 in the 8th. How did the Rockies get their safety?
(07-15-2019, 01:25 PM)UltimateCard Wrote:(07-14-2019, 01:18 PM)Mick Wrote: Slater went 0-3 with three strikeouts. First hiccup at the major league level.
To be fair, Slater was out of the starting lineup because he had a fever. But Longoria got hurt and Bochy had to switch around some players, inserting Slater in right. Bad time to get sick - today, the outfielders are 8 for 12 after 6 innings as the Giants are benefitting from playing at altitude.
Giants lead 17-2 in the 8th. How did the Rockies get their safety?
07-15-2019, 04:42 PM
(07-15-2019, 02:08 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Giants lead 17-2 in the 8th. How did the Rockies get their safety?Per StatsbySTATS: The @SFGiants have scored 90 runs over their last 11 games, the team's most runs in an 11-game span since moving to San Francisco in 1958.
Maybe they just wanted to let Larry Baer know how much they missed him!
(07-15-2019, 02:08 PM)qwerty49 Wrote: Giants lead 17-2 in the 8th. How did the Rockies get their safety?Per StatsbySTATS: The @SFGiants have scored 90 runs over their last 11 games, the team's most runs in an 11-game span since moving to San Francisco in 1958.
Maybe they just wanted to let Larry Baer know how much they missed him!
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