10-16-2020, 12:16 PM
https://247sports.com/college/washington...153058880/
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
Ayden Hector walking on at Wazzu
https://247sports.com/college/washington...153058880/
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
10-16-2020, 12:47 PM
from the Spokane newspaper
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/o...inded-by-/
Quote:A former four-star cornerback who planned to join Stanford’s football team before the school sought out information about his involvement in an eight-month-long police investigation is now at Washington State as a walk-on, a source close to the program confirmed to the The Spokesman-Review.
Cougfan.com first reported the news that Ayden Hector, a standout player at Seattle powerhouse Eastside Catholic, had landed with the Cougars nearly six months after Stanford withdrew the player’s scholarship.
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/o...inded-by-/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
from the Spokane newspaper
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/o...inded-by-/
Quote:A former four-star cornerback who planned to join Stanford’s football team before the school sought out information about his involvement in an eight-month-long police investigation is now at Washington State as a walk-on, a source close to the program confirmed to the The Spokesman-Review.
Cougfan.com first reported the news that Ayden Hector, a standout player at Seattle powerhouse Eastside Catholic, had landed with the Cougars nearly six months after Stanford withdrew the player’s scholarship.
https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2020/o...inded-by-/
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
10-16-2020, 01:03 PM
(10-16-2020, 12:16 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: https://247sports.com/college/washington...153058880/
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
The optics look bad for who?
BC
(10-16-2020, 12:16 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: https://247sports.com/college/washington...153058880/
Article is paywalled but just posting a source. Optics don't look great.
The optics look bad for who?
BC
10-16-2020, 01:32 PM
Well, this is a bit of a rehash, but for those who don't recall...
According to police a 16 year-old girl was assaulted by four Eastside Catholic High football players (Hayden was present but did not participate). No charges were filed by the King County prosecutor.
If the above--gleaned from the Spokesman-Review--is accurate, there's plenty of bad optics to go around.
As far as optics for Stanford or WSU, I don't know. Stanford pulled Hector's scholarship, WSU isn't giving him one, at least not yet.
Let me put it this way: If Hector had been a non-athlete admit to Stanford, would they have revoked his admissions? If not, would he have been allowed to walk-on to Stanford's football team?
I don't even pretend to know what the right answer is because I don't know the facts. So we're left with optics instead.
According to police a 16 year-old girl was assaulted by four Eastside Catholic High football players (Hayden was present but did not participate). No charges were filed by the King County prosecutor.
If the above--gleaned from the Spokesman-Review--is accurate, there's plenty of bad optics to go around.
As far as optics for Stanford or WSU, I don't know. Stanford pulled Hector's scholarship, WSU isn't giving him one, at least not yet.
Let me put it this way: If Hector had been a non-athlete admit to Stanford, would they have revoked his admissions? If not, would he have been allowed to walk-on to Stanford's football team?
I don't even pretend to know what the right answer is because I don't know the facts. So we're left with optics instead.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
Well, this is a bit of a rehash, but for those who don't recall...
According to police a 16 year-old girl was assaulted by four Eastside Catholic High football players (Hayden was present but did not participate). No charges were filed by the King County prosecutor.
If the above--gleaned from the Spokesman-Review--is accurate, there's plenty of bad optics to go around.
As far as optics for Stanford or WSU, I don't know. Stanford pulled Hector's scholarship, WSU isn't giving him one, at least not yet.
Let me put it this way: If Hector had been a non-athlete admit to Stanford, would they have revoked his admissions? If not, would he have been allowed to walk-on to Stanford's football team?
I don't even pretend to know what the right answer is because I don't know the facts. So we're left with optics instead.
According to police a 16 year-old girl was assaulted by four Eastside Catholic High football players (Hayden was present but did not participate). No charges were filed by the King County prosecutor.
If the above--gleaned from the Spokesman-Review--is accurate, there's plenty of bad optics to go around.
As far as optics for Stanford or WSU, I don't know. Stanford pulled Hector's scholarship, WSU isn't giving him one, at least not yet.
Let me put it this way: If Hector had been a non-athlete admit to Stanford, would they have revoked his admissions? If not, would he have been allowed to walk-on to Stanford's football team?
I don't even pretend to know what the right answer is because I don't know the facts. So we're left with optics instead.
If there's one thing people have learned in Berkeley, it's that you can't put "Cal football" and "Rose Bowl" in the same sentence. The words just don't fit. You'd be better off linking "covered wagons" with "Mars travel." (Bruce Jenkins, Cal '70, SF Chronicle, Nov. 11, 2017)
10-16-2020, 01:58 PM
If Hayden had been a regular student, I'm not sure that the Palo Alto Daily would have submitted a FOIA request to get the sealed court records, so Stanford may never have known he was involved. But I think that if Stanford did find out a normal student had been involved in an action like this, his (or her) admission would have been revoked, athlete or not.
But a lot of speculation on my part.
BC
But a lot of speculation on my part.
BC
If Hayden had been a regular student, I'm not sure that the Palo Alto Daily would have submitted a FOIA request to get the sealed court records, so Stanford may never have known he was involved. But I think that if Stanford did find out a normal student had been involved in an action like this, his (or her) admission would have been revoked, athlete or not.
But a lot of speculation on my part.
BC
But a lot of speculation on my part.
BC
the thread from Mar 2020 is here
https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...den+Hector
some of the links no longer work (but there are posts with links to archives of at least some of the articles)
https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...den+Hector
some of the links no longer work (but there are posts with links to archives of at least some of the articles)
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
the thread from Mar 2020 is here
https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...den+Hector
some of the links no longer work (but there are posts with links to archives of at least some of the articles)
https://thecardboard.org/board/showthrea...den+Hector
some of the links no longer work (but there are posts with links to archives of at least some of the articles)
Eric
"the older we get the better we were"
10-16-2020, 04:45 PM
I forgot -- did the Stanford coaching staff know about this prior to the public revelations? Or did Hector not mention the police investigation from the coaching staff?
10-17-2020, 04:54 AM
Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
10-17-2020, 02:04 PM
(10-17-2020, 10:57 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(10-17-2020, 04:54 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
This is guaranteed to happen and everyone here knows it.
Speak for yourself. I know nothing. You've said so many times.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(10-17-2020, 10:57 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(10-17-2020, 04:54 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
This is guaranteed to happen and everyone here knows it.
Speak for yourself. I know nothing. You've said so many times.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
10-17-2020, 03:38 PM
(10-17-2020, 02:04 PM)martyup Wrote:(10-17-2020, 10:57 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(10-17-2020, 04:54 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
This is guaranteed to happen and everyone here knows it.
Speak for yourself. I know nothing. You've said so many times.
Join the club.
(10-17-2020, 02:04 PM)martyup Wrote:(10-17-2020, 10:57 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:(10-17-2020, 04:54 AM)JohnR34231 Wrote: Glad to see the kid is getting a second chance.
Just hope he doesn't make a big play to beat us one of these years.
This is guaranteed to happen and everyone here knows it.
Speak for yourself. I know nothing. You've said so many times.
Join the club.
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