12-21-2020, 05:59 PM
Maybe the most improved defensive player. Unfortunately, on the final conversion he got hurt. They were looking at his knee, I think. I’m hoping it was nothing serious. Has anyone seen anything on that?
Thomas Schaffer
12-21-2020, 06:08 PM
(12-21-2020, 05:59 PM)lex24 Wrote: Maybe the most improved defensive player. Unfortunately, on the final conversion he got hurt. They were looking at his knee, I think. I’m hoping it was nothing serious. Has anyone seen anything on that?
On the replay of the final stop in OT you see him getting blocked and turning sideways while he falls and his knees bend. You can actually hear him yell in pain and, in the shot I saw, you don't see him very well on the ground after that, but the UCLA player who was blocking him puts his hands on his head in distress and starts motioning toward the Stanford bench. I think it was his left knee and seems like it was a serious injury but am holding out hope that it was one of those that seemed more serious than it was. He really stepped up at a time and position of need. It seems trite, but I am definitely sending him my hopes and prayers.
Cheers,
Pete F.
(12-21-2020, 05:59 PM)lex24 Wrote: Maybe the most improved defensive player. Unfortunately, on the final conversion he got hurt. They were looking at his knee, I think. I’m hoping it was nothing serious. Has anyone seen anything on that?
On the replay of the final stop in OT you see him getting blocked and turning sideways while he falls and his knees bend. You can actually hear him yell in pain and, in the shot I saw, you don't see him very well on the ground after that, but the UCLA player who was blocking him puts his hands on his head in distress and starts motioning toward the Stanford bench. I think it was his left knee and seems like it was a serious injury but am holding out hope that it was one of those that seemed more serious than it was. He really stepped up at a time and position of need. It seems trite, but I am definitely sending him my hopes and prayers.
Cheers,
Pete F.
12-21-2020, 06:12 PM
I agree. It really did not look good for him. Let's hope it's not a serious knee issue. I hate Bryce Love / Trenton Irwin / Mike Mitchell finishes to a college football career.
Twitter provides some clues. Schaffer is upright in this post-game picture, but that doesn't necessarily say much. Klay Thompson was upright and trying to get back into the game after tearing his ACL.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Coach_Diron/status/1340526558046347264?s=20[/tweet]
There's also this mysterious tweet by Schaffer himself on Sunday. Maybe it's nothing, but this suggests he just had some bad luck, right?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/THschaffer/status/1340735878453313537?s=20[/tweet]
Twitter provides some clues. Schaffer is upright in this post-game picture, but that doesn't necessarily say much. Klay Thompson was upright and trying to get back into the game after tearing his ACL.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Coach_Diron/status/1340526558046347264?s=20[/tweet]
There's also this mysterious tweet by Schaffer himself on Sunday. Maybe it's nothing, but this suggests he just had some bad luck, right?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/THschaffer/status/1340735878453313537?s=20[/tweet]
I agree. It really did not look good for him. Let's hope it's not a serious knee issue. I hate Bryce Love / Trenton Irwin / Mike Mitchell finishes to a college football career.
Twitter provides some clues. Schaffer is upright in this post-game picture, but that doesn't necessarily say much. Klay Thompson was upright and trying to get back into the game after tearing his ACL.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Coach_Diron/status/1340526558046347264?s=20[/tweet]
There's also this mysterious tweet by Schaffer himself on Sunday. Maybe it's nothing, but this suggests he just had some bad luck, right?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/THschaffer/status/1340735878453313537?s=20[/tweet]
Twitter provides some clues. Schaffer is upright in this post-game picture, but that doesn't necessarily say much. Klay Thompson was upright and trying to get back into the game after tearing his ACL.
[tweet]https://twitter.com/Coach_Diron/status/1340526558046347264?s=20[/tweet]
There's also this mysterious tweet by Schaffer himself on Sunday. Maybe it's nothing, but this suggests he just had some bad luck, right?
[tweet]https://twitter.com/THschaffer/status/1340735878453313537?s=20[/tweet]
12-21-2020, 07:12 PM
As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
12-21-2020, 09:26 PM
(12-21-2020, 07:12 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
You nailed it. We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to. Gotta love what Thomas brought this year - he was hungry and he ate!
(12-21-2020, 07:12 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
You nailed it. We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to. Gotta love what Thomas brought this year - he was hungry and he ate!
12-22-2020, 10:15 AM
(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote:(12-21-2020, 07:12 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
You nailed it. We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to. Gotta love what Thomas brought this year - he was hungry and he ate!
Austria has the what is considered the 2nd best American Football league in Europe. Germany is considered to have the best. I wonder how we found him and whether there is any kind of scouting service that covers the better European leagues? Europe is a good source of players in some other sports.
(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote:(12-21-2020, 07:12 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote: As mentioned, I wasn't planning to watch Stanford play UCLA. I would have forgotten about it, but for CBS rolling the score on the SEC CG. In a commercial break, I turned on ESPN and saw Stanford was trailing by 7. I then saw the Davis Mills pick 6 that made it 34-20. I immediately had flashbacks to at USC in 2011, namely because I re-watched that game on YouTube last week.
So out of curiosity, I continued watching, to see how Mills would respond. I saw the TD drive, but figured that's as far as it would go, so I tuned back to Alabama-Florida. In a commercial break, I flipped back to ESPN, and right when I did, UCLA fumbled and Stanford recovered. That certainly made things interesting, so of course I watched from there, flipping back to CBS and ESPN to keep tabs on both games.
Watching Stanford's last four TD drives, and considering they led 20-3, it's hard to believe UCLA ever stopped Stanford in the game. Then again, I can see how the same thing could be said about Stanford ever stopping UCLA in the first half.
Anyway, I just think everyone needs to appreciate Thomas Schaffer. Not a great player by any means, but someone who clearly worked hard to get big and strong enough to play a crucial role for Stanford, especially in 2020. He's an example of a guy who loved football and wanted to play it badly, after growing up in Europe. Stanford needs to recruit more guys like him, who want to make themselves into football players by sheer force of will and commitment, at least as much if not more than they want the Stanford degree. I too saw and heard Schaffer screaming in pain on the final play and was hoping it wasn't a really bad injury. Never a great time to get hurt, but last play of the last game you will play? Ugh.
You nailed it. We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to. Gotta love what Thomas brought this year - he was hungry and he ate!
Austria has the what is considered the 2nd best American Football league in Europe. Germany is considered to have the best. I wonder how we found him and whether there is any kind of scouting service that covers the better European leagues? Europe is a good source of players in some other sports.
12-22-2020, 10:37 AM
(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote: We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to.
Those guys just endured a mentally-taxing offseason, preseason, and regular season fraught with incredibly difficult obstacles and unprecedented circumstances. They had to be their own cheerleaders in empty stadiums (the noise difference between Stanford's sideline and Cal's sideline during Big Game was striking...I wish more people could've heard it for themselves). And yet they finished it all with a four-game winning streak, all on the road, and capped with a game that took everything they had. That's on top of playing the most physically demanding game in American team sports, which is not easy even in a normal season.
I'd suggest taking a moment to consider those things, then re-evaluate your assessment of how much passion for the game those guys have.
Troy C
(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote: We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to.
Those guys just endured a mentally-taxing offseason, preseason, and regular season fraught with incredibly difficult obstacles and unprecedented circumstances. They had to be their own cheerleaders in empty stadiums (the noise difference between Stanford's sideline and Cal's sideline during Big Game was striking...I wish more people could've heard it for themselves). And yet they finished it all with a four-game winning streak, all on the road, and capped with a game that took everything they had. That's on top of playing the most physically demanding game in American team sports, which is not easy even in a normal season.
I'd suggest taking a moment to consider those things, then re-evaluate your assessment of how much passion for the game those guys have.
Troy C
12-22-2020, 10:40 AM
(12-22-2020, 10:15 AM)GK3 Wrote: Austria has the what is considered the 2nd best American Football league in Europe. Germany is considered to have the best. I wonder how we found him and whether there is any kind of scouting service that covers the better European leagues? Europe is a good source of players in some other sports.
He was playing football at Lake Forest Academy, a prestigious private school in an affluent Chicago suburb. Plenty of schools "found him." He was in America for high school...
(12-22-2020, 10:15 AM)GK3 Wrote: Austria has the what is considered the 2nd best American Football league in Europe. Germany is considered to have the best. I wonder how we found him and whether there is any kind of scouting service that covers the better European leagues? Europe is a good source of players in some other sports.
He was playing football at Lake Forest Academy, a prestigious private school in an affluent Chicago suburb. Plenty of schools "found him." He was in America for high school...
12-22-2020, 11:17 AM
(12-22-2020, 10:37 AM)troyc Wrote:(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote: We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to.
Those guys just endured a mentally-taxing offseason, preseason, and regular season fraught with incredibly difficult obstacles and unprecedented circumstances. They had to be their own cheerleaders in empty stadiums (the noise difference between Stanford's sideline and Cal's sideline during Big Game was striking...I wish more people could've heard it for themselves). And yet they finished it all with a four-game winning streak, all on the road, and capped with a game that took everything they had. That's on top of playing the most physically demanding game in American team sports, which is not easy even in a normal season.
I'd suggest taking a moment to consider those things, then re-evaluate your assessment of how much passion for the game those guys have.
Troy C
Thank you for this Troy.
BC
(12-22-2020, 10:37 AM)troyc Wrote:(12-21-2020, 09:26 PM)Brickcity Wrote: We don't seem to have as many guys who are as passionate about the game as we used to.
Those guys just endured a mentally-taxing offseason, preseason, and regular season fraught with incredibly difficult obstacles and unprecedented circumstances. They had to be their own cheerleaders in empty stadiums (the noise difference between Stanford's sideline and Cal's sideline during Big Game was striking...I wish more people could've heard it for themselves). And yet they finished it all with a four-game winning streak, all on the road, and capped with a game that took everything they had. That's on top of playing the most physically demanding game in American team sports, which is not easy even in a normal season.
I'd suggest taking a moment to consider those things, then re-evaluate your assessment of how much passion for the game those guys have.
Troy C
Thank you for this Troy.
BC
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