01-16-2021, 02:41 PM
Winning always better than losing. Grade B+
(01-15-2021, 01:30 PM)winflop Wrote: ... but the flub at Colorado prevents me from giving them an A - especially Shaw for the clock management in Q4. He's been a head coach for 10 years. Those kinds of mistakes are inexcusably bad.
(01-15-2021, 01:30 PM)winflop Wrote: ... but the flub at Colorado prevents me from giving them an A - especially Shaw for the clock management in Q4. He's been a head coach for 10 years. Those kinds of mistakes are inexcusably bad.
(01-15-2021, 03:37 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Even beyond record we were a better team this year than last.
(01-15-2021, 03:37 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Even beyond record we were a better team this year than last.
(01-17-2021, 10:28 AM)CTcard Wrote:(01-15-2021, 03:37 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Even beyond record we were a better team this year than last.
That looked extremely true to me, though it is not as if being better than the 2019 team is a big accomplishment.
(01-17-2021, 10:28 AM)CTcard Wrote:(01-15-2021, 03:37 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Even beyond record we were a better team this year than last.
That looked extremely true to me, though it is not as if being better than the 2019 team is a big accomplishment.
(01-17-2021, 02:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I don’t dispute that compared to the 2010 to 2015 years that there has been some reversion to the mean. Nor do I dispute that given the somewhat lackluster recruiting, coupled with broader college football trends that I think disfavor Stanford and the future seems, IMO, less bright than it might have been a half dozen years ago. That being said, I see more of a long secular stagnation than an abrupt downfall.
(01-17-2021, 02:39 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I don’t dispute that compared to the 2010 to 2015 years that there has been some reversion to the mean. Nor do I dispute that given the somewhat lackluster recruiting, coupled with broader college football trends that I think disfavor Stanford and the future seems, IMO, less bright than it might have been a half dozen years ago. That being said, I see more of a long secular stagnation than an abrupt downfall.
(01-17-2021, 09:43 AM)CTcard Wrote:(01-15-2021, 01:30 PM)winflop Wrote: ... but the flub at Colorado prevents me from giving them an A - especially Shaw for the clock management in Q4. He's been a head coach for 10 years. Those kinds of mistakes are inexcusably bad.
What was the clock management problem in the Colorado game?
I don't remember that game too well outside of the defense waving in Colorado for three straight TDs to start the second half.
(01-17-2021, 09:43 AM)CTcard Wrote:(01-15-2021, 01:30 PM)winflop Wrote: ... but the flub at Colorado prevents me from giving them an A - especially Shaw for the clock management in Q4. He's been a head coach for 10 years. Those kinds of mistakes are inexcusably bad.
What was the clock management problem in the Colorado game?
I don't remember that game too well outside of the defense waving in Colorado for three straight TDs to start the second half.
(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
(01-18-2021, 04:11 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: Still in the camp of "who cares about that when our defense has been a 4-alarm tire fire for 3 years now."
(01-18-2021, 04:11 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote: Still in the camp of "who cares about that when our defense has been a 4-alarm tire fire for 3 years now."
(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote: [quote="BostonCard" pid='305406' dateline='1611007306']
I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote: [quote="BostonCard" pid='305406' dateline='1611007306']
I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
(01-18-2021, 07:05 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote: [quote="BostonCard" pid='305406' dateline='1611007306']
I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
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Sorry, Winflop, agree with BC, it has received far too much complaint on this board.
(01-18-2021, 07:05 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote: [quote="BostonCard" pid='305406' dateline='1611007306']
I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
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Sorry, Winflop, agree with BC, it has received far too much complaint on this board.
(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
(01-19-2021, 01:59 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote: The defense was right around or worse than #100 in the nation (out of 127) in the following categories this season:
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- 4th down conversion rate allowed: 100%, #127. Dead last. We were the only school in the nation to allow 100%.
(01-19-2021, 01:59 AM)SamuelMcF Wrote: The defense was right around or worse than #100 in the nation (out of 127) in the following categories this season:
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- 4th down conversion rate allowed: 100%, #127. Dead last. We were the only school in the nation to allow 100%.
(01-19-2021, 09:01 AM)lex24 Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
So, Winflop how many delay of game penalties were there last year. How many time outs to avoid a DOG. Next for each one, tell me the culprit. Play get in too late. QB have a hard time hearing, getting play, how bout too much time spent at LOS trying to audible. One way to tell is when they break huddle. If they have 10 seconds or so, that’s hard to put on the staff. Plenty of time to get snap. (And sometimes, of course, the QB doesn’t like what he sees personnel wise and in such situations, particularly key downs, he should call a TO.
Stanford’s game management style is to limit possessions. ( Which I believe is the right strategy most of the time). Thus the play clock winds down below 5 a lot. I know you, like me, are probably yelling “hike” at the screen a fair amount. But I suspect that the constant “close” leads to the belief that Stanford has more DOG’s and TOs than similarly situated teams - in other words, teams that do not play fast tempo. And I don’t know that to be the case.
I do recall one egregious DOG where they failed to get the TO on a 4th and one and lost an opportunity to go for it inside the ten, I think. That shouldn’t happen. But as I said, I don’t think DOGs and TOs were an issue last year.
(01-19-2021, 09:01 AM)lex24 Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
So, Winflop how many delay of game penalties were there last year. How many time outs to avoid a DOG. Next for each one, tell me the culprit. Play get in too late. QB have a hard time hearing, getting play, how bout too much time spent at LOS trying to audible. One way to tell is when they break huddle. If they have 10 seconds or so, that’s hard to put on the staff. Plenty of time to get snap. (And sometimes, of course, the QB doesn’t like what he sees personnel wise and in such situations, particularly key downs, he should call a TO.
Stanford’s game management style is to limit possessions. ( Which I believe is the right strategy most of the time). Thus the play clock winds down below 5 a lot. I know you, like me, are probably yelling “hike” at the screen a fair amount. But I suspect that the constant “close” leads to the belief that Stanford has more DOG’s and TOs than similarly situated teams - in other words, teams that do not play fast tempo. And I don’t know that to be the case.
I do recall one egregious DOG where they failed to get the TO on a 4th and one and lost an opportunity to go for it inside the ten, I think. That shouldn’t happen. But as I said, I don’t think DOGs and TOs were an issue last year.
(01-19-2021, 01:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-19-2021, 09:01 AM)lex24 Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
So, Winflop how many delay of game penalties were there last year. How many time outs to avoid a DOG. Next for each one, tell me the culprit. Play get in too late. QB have a hard time hearing, getting play, how bout too much time spent at LOS trying to audible. One way to tell is when they break huddle. If they have 10 seconds or so, that’s hard to put on the staff. Plenty of time to get snap. (And sometimes, of course, the QB doesn’t like what he sees personnel wise and in such situations, particularly key downs, he should call a TO.
Stanford’s game management style is to limit possessions. ( Which I believe is the right strategy most of the time). Thus the play clock winds down below 5 a lot. I know you, like me, are probably yelling “hike” at the screen a fair amount. But I suspect that the constant “close” leads to the belief that Stanford has more DOG’s and TOs than similarly situated teams - in other words, teams that do not play fast tempo. And I don’t know that to be the case.
I do recall one egregious DOG where they failed to get the TO on a 4th and one and lost an opportunity to go for it inside the ten, I think. That shouldn’t happen. But as I said, I don’t think DOGs and TOs were an issue last year.
I don't know and I'm not going to go back and review the game tape. I disagree that if they break the huddle with 10 seconds left that's OK. Not in this offense. They need to be at the line ready to snap the ball with 10 seconds left in order for the QB to read the defense and get into the right play, which means breaking the huddle with 15 seconds left on the play clock.
My issues are far more about clock management than getting plays in on time. The end of the Colorado game this year is only the latest example. Substituting against UW on the final drive with no timeouts left, allowing the Huskies to bleed many seconds off the clock - can't remember if that was 2019 or 2018. I'm not going to revie recordings from every game of the past xxx years, but I'm confident that Shaw is good for at least one of these major screwups every year.
(01-19-2021, 01:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-19-2021, 09:01 AM)lex24 Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:06 PM)winflop Wrote:(01-18-2021, 03:01 PM)BostonCard Wrote: I noted that yesterday, Bruce Aryans, a veteran coach, had to call a time out when Tom Brady, perhaps the greatest QB ever, was about to get hit with a DoG.
This stuff happens. It has happened a lot less this year than in the past, mostly because we had an experienced QB and offensive line. It will probably happen more next year with a new QB behind center. It is frustrating, but also it gets way too much attention on this board.
BC
It happens infrequently to even the best. It happens far too frequently with Shaw.
So, Winflop how many delay of game penalties were there last year. How many time outs to avoid a DOG. Next for each one, tell me the culprit. Play get in too late. QB have a hard time hearing, getting play, how bout too much time spent at LOS trying to audible. One way to tell is when they break huddle. If they have 10 seconds or so, that’s hard to put on the staff. Plenty of time to get snap. (And sometimes, of course, the QB doesn’t like what he sees personnel wise and in such situations, particularly key downs, he should call a TO.
Stanford’s game management style is to limit possessions. ( Which I believe is the right strategy most of the time). Thus the play clock winds down below 5 a lot. I know you, like me, are probably yelling “hike” at the screen a fair amount. But I suspect that the constant “close” leads to the belief that Stanford has more DOG’s and TOs than similarly situated teams - in other words, teams that do not play fast tempo. And I don’t know that to be the case.
I do recall one egregious DOG where they failed to get the TO on a 4th and one and lost an opportunity to go for it inside the ten, I think. That shouldn’t happen. But as I said, I don’t think DOGs and TOs were an issue last year.
I don't know and I'm not going to go back and review the game tape. I disagree that if they break the huddle with 10 seconds left that's OK. Not in this offense. They need to be at the line ready to snap the ball with 10 seconds left in order for the QB to read the defense and get into the right play, which means breaking the huddle with 15 seconds left on the play clock.
My issues are far more about clock management than getting plays in on time. The end of the Colorado game this year is only the latest example. Substituting against UW on the final drive with no timeouts left, allowing the Huskies to bleed many seconds off the clock - can't remember if that was 2019 or 2018. I'm not going to revie recordings from every game of the past xxx years, but I'm confident that Shaw is good for at least one of these major screwups every year.