(12-07-2022, 02:26 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote:(12-07-2022, 10:16 AM)Chupacabra Wrote: So many claims of "selfish." Pretty selfish to put what you want to see on the field on Saturdays ahead of what an 18-23 year old considers the best choice for his life.
The answer is to win and help the guys buy in, not say they're a bunch of selfish crybabies. Certainly reeks of pots and kettles.
Are changes needed to drive this home to the players? Of course. But don't blame the players, they're college students. If you want to put your money where your mouth is, sign one of the guys to an NIL deal yourself. It's completely legal now.
Totally agree. John Canzano’s excellent article from today echoes this point.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-tr...laced-with
(12-07-2022, 10:47 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: Ricky Miezan plans to return to lacrosse...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/1600679221697064962?s=20&t=D5_yBP0wNCWIaoqEBY38Fw[/tweet]
(12-07-2022, 02:26 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote:(12-07-2022, 10:16 AM)Chupacabra Wrote: So many claims of "selfish." Pretty selfish to put what you want to see on the field on Saturdays ahead of what an 18-23 year old considers the best choice for his life.
The answer is to win and help the guys buy in, not say they're a bunch of selfish crybabies. Certainly reeks of pots and kettles.
Are changes needed to drive this home to the players? Of course. But don't blame the players, they're college students. If you want to put your money where your mouth is, sign one of the guys to an NIL deal yourself. It's completely legal now.
Totally agree. John Canzano’s excellent article from today echoes this point.
https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-tr...laced-with
(12-07-2022, 10:47 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: Ricky Miezan plans to return to lacrosse...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/1600679221697064962?s=20&t=D5_yBP0wNCWIaoqEBY38Fw[/tweet]
(12-07-2022, 06:21 PM)Mick Wrote:As I read the article, it says 70% of the players do not get a second contract from the team that drafted them, not that 70% of the players don't get a second contract. That is partly the goal, as the article says. Hit free agency after three years and get the "big bucks". That said, I think it is true that the majority of drafted players, particularly in the later rounds, do not "stick" in the NFL. There are lots of reasons why, and circumstances play a role, but usually it is because they just aren't good enough. However, that doesn't affect the strategy the player should use. If you are going to "make it", you should do so ASAP. If you aren't, waiting a year to try won't change the outcome in most cases, unless you get hurt and can't go to the NFL at all.(12-07-2022, 01:44 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Not sure about that strategy. The vast majority of players, especially those drafted in the lower rounds, never see that second contract.
I haven’t games it out, but if you adjust for that fact, there is probably a strong impetus in improving your draft position upon exit from college.
BC
It's 70%. Big number. Here's the numbers by team from draft picks from 2008 to 2017. San Francisco has the highest percentage
https://www.the33rdteam.com/wp-content/u...amed-3.png
ESPN.com: NFL - Drafted players don't stick around
(12-07-2022, 06:21 PM)Mick Wrote:As I read the article, it says 70% of the players do not get a second contract from the team that drafted them, not that 70% of the players don't get a second contract. That is partly the goal, as the article says. Hit free agency after three years and get the "big bucks". That said, I think it is true that the majority of drafted players, particularly in the later rounds, do not "stick" in the NFL. There are lots of reasons why, and circumstances play a role, but usually it is because they just aren't good enough. However, that doesn't affect the strategy the player should use. If you are going to "make it", you should do so ASAP. If you aren't, waiting a year to try won't change the outcome in most cases, unless you get hurt and can't go to the NFL at all.(12-07-2022, 01:44 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Not sure about that strategy. The vast majority of players, especially those drafted in the lower rounds, never see that second contract.
I haven’t games it out, but if you adjust for that fact, there is probably a strong impetus in improving your draft position upon exit from college.
BC
It's 70%. Big number. Here's the numbers by team from draft picks from 2008 to 2017. San Francisco has the highest percentage
https://www.the33rdteam.com/wp-content/u...amed-3.png
ESPN.com: NFL - Drafted players don't stick around
(12-08-2022, 08:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://theathletic.com/3976158/2022/12/...s-alabama/
780 players in the Portal as of that article; they are expecting more than 1000 players in the portal.
BC
(12-08-2022, 08:14 PM)BostonCard Wrote: https://theathletic.com/3976158/2022/12/...s-alabama/
780 players in the Portal as of that article; they are expecting more than 1000 players in the portal.
BC
(12-09-2022, 10:06 AM)Phogge Wrote: State U gave up football in the 90's. Title Nine suit. Hayward, SF, Sonoma, Chico all caved eventually. Sac State, Fresno, SD didn't. Humboldt finally ended their program a few years ago. Was a great conference to play in. No Scholies but some very good teams. Haskell, Tierney, Holmgren, Reid all coached at Lake Merced. Bob Toledo (national record holder across all divisions for TD passes) had UCLA at #2 for awhile. A lot of Stanford grads' kids were taught and coached by SF State grads. My catcher Tom Martinez was the first throwing coach for Tom Brady.
A f****** shame.
(12-09-2022, 10:06 AM)Phogge Wrote: State U gave up football in the 90's. Title Nine suit. Hayward, SF, Sonoma, Chico all caved eventually. Sac State, Fresno, SD didn't. Humboldt finally ended their program a few years ago. Was a great conference to play in. No Scholies but some very good teams. Haskell, Tierney, Holmgren, Reid all coached at Lake Merced. Bob Toledo (national record holder across all divisions for TD passes) had UCLA at #2 for awhile. A lot of Stanford grads' kids were taught and coached by SF State grads. My catcher Tom Martinez was the first throwing coach for Tom Brady.
A f****** shame.
(12-12-2022, 06:17 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: [twitter]https://twitter.com/cameronsalerno1/status/1602384354663366656[/twitter]
(12-12-2022, 06:17 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: [twitter]https://twitter.com/cameronsalerno1/status/1602384354663366656[/twitter]
(12-07-2022, 10:47 PM)CardinalSagehen Wrote: Ricky Miezan plans to return to lacrosse...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/tyxanders/status/1600679221697064962?s=20&t=D5_yBP0wNCWIaoqEBY38Fw[/tweet]
Quote:The solution isn’t simple, or certainly not all encompassing, but the easiest thing to do is eliminate December’s early signing day (Dec. 21 this year) and move the traditional signing day back from February 1 to the middle of the month, or even March.
Quote:The solution isn’t simple, or certainly not all encompassing, but the easiest thing to do is eliminate December’s early signing day (Dec. 21 this year) and move the traditional signing day back from February 1 to the middle of the month, or even March.
