02-17-2023, 01:03 PM
Interesting that he got away with it for so long, particularly in light of inability to replicate results and the commercial failures.
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily. On its face, however, this MTL story seems well-sourced, including reference to statements by several anonymous senior scientists/executives at Genentech. MTL would be foolish to sue for defamation as the Daily would likely win an anti-SLAPP motion, assuming the sources are legit.
(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily. On its face, however, this MTL story seems well-sourced, including reference to statements by several anonymous senior scientists/executives at Genentech. MTL would be foolish to sue for defamation as the Daily would likely win an anti-SLAPP motion, assuming the sources are legit.
(02-18-2023, 11:20 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily. On its face, however, this MTL story seems well-sourced, including reference to statements by several anonymous senior scientists/executives at Genentech. MTL would be foolish to sue for defamation as the Daily would likely win an anti-SLAPP motion, assuming the sources are legit.
What's very bad for MTL is the article's meticulous documentation of his (and his proxies') inability to answer questions straight -- and to get contradicted by other inconvenient facts. I find this denial very hard to believe.
(02-18-2023, 11:20 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:01 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:(02-17-2023, 04:10 PM)johnbar Wrote: MLT responds in an email; the link is: https://tessier-lavigne-lab.stanford.edu...ford-daily
Dear Faculty and Staff Colleagues,
Many of you may have seen an article in the Stanford Daily today that makes a string of false allegations regarding some of my scientific findings on neural degeneration. For those of you who wish to know the facts, please visit this link at my lab website.
Sincerely,
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
President, Stanford University
Bing Presidential Professor and Head of the Tessier-Lavigne Laboratory at Stanford University
What's next? MTL suing the Daily for libel? "Oh, they wanted fun on campus, so they trumped up this false allegations to get rid of me". . . .
I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily. On its face, however, this MTL story seems well-sourced, including reference to statements by several anonymous senior scientists/executives at Genentech. MTL would be foolish to sue for defamation as the Daily would likely win an anti-SLAPP motion, assuming the sources are legit.
What's very bad for MTL is the article's meticulous documentation of his (and his proxies') inability to answer questions straight -- and to get contradicted by other inconvenient facts. I find this denial very hard to believe.
(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily.The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. Lake Lag is filled again and it's beautiful, but we caught a couple students swimming in it so let's rat them out! Scandal! I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily.The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. Lake Lag is filled again and it's beautiful, but we caught a couple students swimming in it so let's rat them out! Scandal! I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
(02-18-2023, 05:54 PM)OCcardinal Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily.The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. "Lake Lag is filled again and it's arguably beautiful, but look, we caught a couple students swimming in it, so SCANDAL!" I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
This article may or may not contain accurate/important revelations. I'll look to others (like the Faculty senate) to discern whether that is the case.
(02-18-2023, 05:54 PM)OCcardinal Wrote:(02-17-2023, 05:44 PM)TrumpCard Wrote: I do think some publications have a tendency to overstate allegations of misconduct. The motives for such overstatements may vary depending on the circumstances, from trying to gain clicks by sensationalizing a small story to wanting to be the person who breaks a big story even though the author doesn't (yet) have the goods. The Stan Cohen story in the Daily struck me as that sort of overreach, so I'm on high alert when I read takedowns in the Daily.The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. "Lake Lag is filled again and it's arguably beautiful, but look, we caught a couple students swimming in it, so SCANDAL!" I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
This article may or may not contain accurate/important revelations. I'll look to others (like the Faculty senate) to discern whether that is the case.
(02-18-2023, 06:07 PM)OCcardinal Wrote: The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. "Lake Lag is filled again and it's arguably beautiful, but look, we caught a couple students swimming in it, so SCANDAL!" I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
This article may or may not contain accurate/important revelations. I'll look to others (like the Faculty senate) to discern whether that is the case.
(02-18-2023, 06:07 PM)OCcardinal Wrote: The Daily seems have taken a distinctly anti-Stanford bent this year. Even trivial things are couched in the negative. "Lake Lag is filled again and it's arguably beautiful, but look, we caught a couple students swimming in it, so SCANDAL!" I was on campus a couple months ago and the whole front page of the Daily was negative articles about the university. It's put me on the same "high alert" status as you.
This article may or may not contain accurate/important revelations. I'll look to others (like the Faculty senate) to discern whether that is the case.
(02-18-2023, 06:03 PM)81alum Wrote: All that said, and having once been on the faculty at Stanford, I can't believe that any self respecting academic would want MTL to remain in control while he deals with these charges. It cannot be good for the institution that its President is spending so much time defending himself, and that the University's chief executive is under a cloud of suspicion. Let him vigorously defend himself full time while he is on leave, and if he succeeds, welcome him back. In the meantime, get an undistracted leader to run the organization, an interim President. Maybe Hennessey could be persuaded to do it for six months. Casper is probably too old. Or a former Provost, perhaps.
(02-18-2023, 06:03 PM)81alum Wrote: All that said, and having once been on the faculty at Stanford, I can't believe that any self respecting academic would want MTL to remain in control while he deals with these charges. It cannot be good for the institution that its President is spending so much time defending himself, and that the University's chief executive is under a cloud of suspicion. Let him vigorously defend himself full time while he is on leave, and if he succeeds, welcome him back. In the meantime, get an undistracted leader to run the organization, an interim President. Maybe Hennessey could be persuaded to do it for six months. Casper is probably too old. Or a former Provost, perhaps.
Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
(02-21-2023, 08:50 AM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/20/dai...eb-21-2023
(02-21-2023, 08:50 AM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/20/dai...eb-21-2023
(02-21-2023, 11:08 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote:(02-21-2023, 08:50 AM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/20/dai...eb-21-2023
The Polk is a real-deal big journalism award -- you'd rather win the Pulitzer, of course, but Polk is a fine second-best option. In other words: Baker's stuff here is among the most substantive investigative journalism of the year.
(02-21-2023, 11:08 AM)washingtonismoney Wrote:(02-21-2023, 08:50 AM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:The Stanford Daily has won a 2022 George Polk Award in Journalism, marking the first time in history that an independent, student-run newspaper has won the prestigious award. Theo Baker ’26, Investigations Editor at The Daily, will be honored with a “Special Award” for his investigation into allegations that research co-authored by University President Marc Tessier-Lavigne contained manipulated images.
https://stanforddaily.com/2023/02/20/dai...eb-21-2023
The Polk is a real-deal big journalism award -- you'd rather win the Pulitzer, of course, but Polk is a fine second-best option. In other words: Baker's stuff here is among the most substantive investigative journalism of the year.
(02-21-2023, 11:49 AM)TrumpCard Wrote: For those following this more closely than I have, please remind me, what was The Daily's role in this investigation? Based on the little I've read, I thought that Elizabeth Bik was the person initially responsible for investigating MTL's alleged misconduct. Did Baker or others at The Daily do something to uncover Bik's investigation that otherwise would have remained private? Thanks!
Quote:Three other papers published[b] [/b]in Science and Nature by the University president also contain “serious problems,” according to Elisabeth Bik, a biologist and science misconduct investigator routinely featured in outlets such as The New York Times, The New Yorker and Nature, who was contacted by The Daily last month to review several separate allegations. Tessier-Lavigne is the lead author on two of these papers.
(02-21-2023, 11:49 AM)TrumpCard Wrote: For those following this more closely than I have, please remind me, what was The Daily's role in this investigation? Based on the little I've read, I thought that Elizabeth Bik was the person initially responsible for investigating MTL's alleged misconduct. Did Baker or others at The Daily do something to uncover Bik's investigation that otherwise would have remained private? Thanks!
Quote:Three other papers published[b] [/b]in Science and Nature by the University president also contain “serious problems,” according to Elisabeth Bik, a biologist and science misconduct investigator routinely featured in outlets such as The New York Times, The New Yorker and Nature, who was contacted by The Daily last month to review several separate allegations. Tessier-Lavigne is the lead author on two of these papers.
(02-21-2023, 12:14 PM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:Three other papers published[b] [/b]in Science and Nature by the University president also contain “serious problems,” according to Elisabeth Bik, a biologist and science misconduct investigator routinely featured in outlets such as The New York Times, The New Yorker and Nature, who was contacted by The Daily last month to review several separate allegations. Tessier-Lavigne is the lead author on two of these papers.
which implies the Daily reaching out to Bik for comment, unclear where the Daily got the initial info on possible issues with the papers but I have not seen anything that came before the Daily article on Nov 29, 2022 that talks to this issue
(02-21-2023, 12:14 PM)82lsju Wrote:Quote:Three other papers published[b] [/b]in Science and Nature by the University president also contain “serious problems,” according to Elisabeth Bik, a biologist and science misconduct investigator routinely featured in outlets such as The New York Times, The New Yorker and Nature, who was contacted by The Daily last month to review several separate allegations. Tessier-Lavigne is the lead author on two of these papers.
which implies the Daily reaching out to Bik for comment, unclear where the Daily got the initial info on possible issues with the papers but I have not seen anything that came before the Daily article on Nov 29, 2022 that talks to this issue