07-12-2023, 11:45 AM
1957 Lou Burdette
One to go
One to go
(07-12-2023, 09:12 AM)BobK Wrote: Not Ford
One Milwaukee Braves
The other Enos Slaughter lead the team in HRs
(07-12-2023, 09:12 AM)BobK Wrote: Not Ford
One Milwaukee Braves
The other Enos Slaughter lead the team in HRs
(07-12-2023, 09:45 PM)Giants Wrote:that's 5 of the 7.(07-12-2023, 08:28 PM)skip75 Wrote: There are 7 current MLB managers who played for the SF Giants. Who are they?
Five off the top,off my head….
Dusty Baker, Bob Melvin, Dave Roberts, Bud Black, David Bell
(07-13-2023, 08:14 AM)Mick Wrote: I think Scott Servais, Mariners manager, had a cup of coffee with the Giants. Mike Matheny of the Royals.Yes to Servais. Matheny is not a current manager. One to go.
(07-13-2023, 08:00 AM)BobK Wrote: Robby Thompson for a couple of days whe. The manager was out.Interim manager for the Mariners in 2013, but not current.
(07-12-2023, 09:45 PM)Giants Wrote:that's 5 of the 7.(07-12-2023, 08:28 PM)skip75 Wrote: There are 7 current MLB managers who played for the SF Giants. Who are they?
Five off the top,off my head….
Dusty Baker, Bob Melvin, Dave Roberts, Bud Black, David Bell
(07-13-2023, 08:14 AM)Mick Wrote: I think Scott Servais, Mariners manager, had a cup of coffee with the Giants. Mike Matheny of the Royals.Yes to Servais. Matheny is not a current manager. One to go.
(07-13-2023, 08:00 AM)BobK Wrote: Robby Thompson for a couple of days whe. The manager was out.Interim manager for the Mariners in 2013, but not current.
(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
(07-14-2023, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
Two interesting guys who had an interesting bond (of sorts) between them.
Cliff Ray was eight years younger than Thurmond -- Thurmond had only really great year left in him, and the Warriors --and their perpetually undefunded owner Franklin Mieuli -- also received $100k in cash. Ray also turned into a very strong big man's coach who worked for the Warriors for years.
I had a friend from Boston, and just to torque him, I'd mention how I'd rather have Rick Barry than Larry Bird any day of the week (I wouldn't, but...). That would just send him into orbit.
You're right, the players couldn't stand Barry, the most insecure superstar in NBA history. In 1974-5 season, Cliff Ray had a players-only meeting with all the players except Barry, and (paraphrased) said yeah, he's a jerk, but he's our jerk and he'll take this team really far, so just live with it.
The next year, the Warriors were actually a better team, 59-23 in the regular season, leading the NBA in defensive rating and second in offensive rating. But Barry got into a first half fight wtih Ricky Sobers in the 1976 playoff Game Seven against the 42-40 Suns. His teammates didn't come to his aid -- and there were earlier snubs by his teammates -- so Barry refused to shoot in the second half and tanked the playoffs.
That would have been a Celtics vs. Warriors 1976 NBA Finals. Too bad.
Warriors and Celtics almost met in the 1976 Finals but Rick Barry quit - Golden State Of Mind
(07-14-2023, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
Two interesting guys who had an interesting bond (of sorts) between them.
Cliff Ray was eight years younger than Thurmond -- Thurmond had only really great year left in him, and the Warriors --and their perpetually undefunded owner Franklin Mieuli -- also received $100k in cash. Ray also turned into a very strong big man's coach who worked for the Warriors for years.
I had a friend from Boston, and just to torque him, I'd mention how I'd rather have Rick Barry than Larry Bird any day of the week (I wouldn't, but...). That would just send him into orbit.
You're right, the players couldn't stand Barry, the most insecure superstar in NBA history. In 1974-5 season, Cliff Ray had a players-only meeting with all the players except Barry, and (paraphrased) said yeah, he's a jerk, but he's our jerk and he'll take this team really far, so just live with it.
The next year, the Warriors were actually a better team, 59-23 in the regular season, leading the NBA in defensive rating and second in offensive rating. But Barry got into a first half fight wtih Ricky Sobers in the 1976 playoff Game Seven against the 42-40 Suns. His teammates didn't come to his aid -- and there were earlier snubs by his teammates -- so Barry refused to shoot in the second half and tanked the playoffs.
That would have been a Celtics vs. Warriors 1976 NBA Finals. Too bad.
Warriors and Celtics almost met in the 1976 Finals but Rick Barry quit - Golden State Of Mind
(07-14-2023, 08:48 AM)lex24 Wrote:(07-14-2023, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
Two interesting guys who had an interesting bond (of sorts) between them.
Cliff Ray was eight years younger than Thurmond -- Thurmond had only really great year left in him, and the Warriors --and their perpetually undefunded owner Franklin Mieuli -- also received $100k in cash. Ray also turned into a very strong big man's coach who worked for the Warriors for years.
I had a friend from Boston, and just to torque him, I'd mention how I'd rather have Rick Barry than Larry Bird any day of the week (I wouldn't, but...). That would just send him into orbit.
You're right, the players couldn't stand Barry, the most insecure superstar in NBA history. In 1974-5 season, Cliff Ray had a players-only meeting with all the players except Barry, and (paraphrased) said yeah, he's a jerk, but he's our jerk and he'll take this team really far, so just live with it.
The next year, the Warriors were actually a better team, 59-23 in the regular season, leading the NBA in defensive rating and second in offensive rating. But Barry got into a first half fight wtih Ricky Sobers in the 1976 playoff Game Seven against the 42-40 Suns. His teammates didn't come to his aid -- and there were earlier snubs by his teammates -- so Barry refused to shoot in the second half and tanked the playoffs.
That would have been a Celtics vs. Warriors 1976 NBA Finals. Too bad.
Warriors and Celtics almost met in the 1976 Finals but Rick Barry quit - Golden State Of Mind
I followed those teams very closely. Game 7 is a matter of interpretation. Some say Barry was upset cause Ray, his friend, did nothing. But Barry twisted his ankle that game. That had some effect. Phil Smith also spent a lot of time dribbling. Hard to say what truly happened.
(07-14-2023, 08:48 AM)lex24 Wrote:(07-14-2023, 07:27 AM)Mick Wrote:(07-13-2023, 10:31 PM)lex24 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:39 PM)Red80 Wrote:(07-13-2023, 07:23 PM)lex24 Wrote: Who is the only player to lead NCAA, ABA and NBA in scoring?
Barry?
Correct. One of the most underrated player in NBA history. Certainly 74-75 Warriors are the most underrated team. Picked to finish last after trading Nate Thurmond for Clifford Ray. Barry had an incredible year. Essentially inventing the point forward position. 30 a game. 6 assists a game. Led league in steals. And finished 4th in NBA voting. Players voted then. Barry was reviled.
If that team was in NY they would have written songs about them. As it was, they didn’t merit the cover of SI after sweeping the Bullets. Who were heavily favored. Still pisses me off.
Barry was a jerk. No question. Frankly, the players should have loved him. His jumping to the ABA opened the door for the merger. And the players made a lot more money as a result.
Difficult in the extreme. He’s paid the price legacy wise.
Two interesting guys who had an interesting bond (of sorts) between them.
Cliff Ray was eight years younger than Thurmond -- Thurmond had only really great year left in him, and the Warriors --and their perpetually undefunded owner Franklin Mieuli -- also received $100k in cash. Ray also turned into a very strong big man's coach who worked for the Warriors for years.
I had a friend from Boston, and just to torque him, I'd mention how I'd rather have Rick Barry than Larry Bird any day of the week (I wouldn't, but...). That would just send him into orbit.
You're right, the players couldn't stand Barry, the most insecure superstar in NBA history. In 1974-5 season, Cliff Ray had a players-only meeting with all the players except Barry, and (paraphrased) said yeah, he's a jerk, but he's our jerk and he'll take this team really far, so just live with it.
The next year, the Warriors were actually a better team, 59-23 in the regular season, leading the NBA in defensive rating and second in offensive rating. But Barry got into a first half fight wtih Ricky Sobers in the 1976 playoff Game Seven against the 42-40 Suns. His teammates didn't come to his aid -- and there were earlier snubs by his teammates -- so Barry refused to shoot in the second half and tanked the playoffs.
That would have been a Celtics vs. Warriors 1976 NBA Finals. Too bad.
Warriors and Celtics almost met in the 1976 Finals but Rick Barry quit - Golden State Of Mind
I followed those teams very closely. Game 7 is a matter of interpretation. Some say Barry was upset cause Ray, his friend, did nothing. But Barry twisted his ankle that game. That had some effect. Phil Smith also spent a lot of time dribbling. Hard to say what truly happened.
(07-14-2023, 06:23 PM)BobK Wrote: Giants on Apple TV tonight. Their trivia question who was the only Cy Young winner who was the overall top draft choice
(07-14-2023, 06:23 PM)BobK Wrote: Giants on Apple TV tonight. Their trivia question who was the only Cy Young winner who was the overall top draft choice